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Leonard
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posted December 18, 2003 01:11 PM
Free answers and analysis. All your night hunting questions, expert advice. No topic refused. Don't miss out on this exciting method of hunting predators! You will never get a better deal. After Christmas, I may start charging? ![[Smile]](smile.gif)
Good hunting
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Barndog
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posted December 18, 2003 03:46 PM
I've never been consistent with night hunting. Something different always happens. Let me know what works best for you and I'll give a try over the Holidays.
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Rich Higgins
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posted December 18, 2003 05:04 PM
Leonard, if you would agree to a night hunt for the 'Masters" video you would answer all questions before they are asked.
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Leonard
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posted December 18, 2003 05:48 PM
Actually, Rich. I'd love to take you on a hunt.
Good hunting. LB
Barndog, search this forum for a few answers.
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EL BEE Knows It All and Done It All.
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JoeF
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posted December 18, 2003 06:02 PM
"I may start charging"..... There's probably money to be made...
Careful, some of us listen very closely.... ;<)
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onecoyote
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posted December 19, 2003 12:52 PM
No topics refused Hummmmmm, are you sure you want to do that.....as I pull out all my maps Of Arizona, Nevada, Sonora and Baja. ![[Roll Eyes]](rolleyes.gif)
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Rich Higgins
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posted December 19, 2003 01:45 PM
Leonard, I have January 24 and 25 open. How does that look for you?
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Doug
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posted December 19, 2003 02:00 PM
How about a picture of your night hunting rig? ![[Wink]](wink.gif)
Doug
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Leonard
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posted December 19, 2003 04:26 PM
That's a little late, for me, but for the educational value, we can pencil in those dates, Rich. You can shoot all the video you want, but I reserve the right to edit whatever might be too high octane for the multitudes.
Danny, you know "some" things will die with me. I won't answer your questions because you don't need any help. I'm talking about specific problems a guy may have, and you know most of the solutions, anyway.
Doug, I might send you a series of photos, but you can't post them. If you agree, say so.
This is a legit offer, tell me what your specific problem(s) might be and I will give you the best unvarnished advice I am capable of providing.
Good hunting. LB
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EL BEE Knows It All and Done It All.
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illinois farm boy
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posted December 19, 2003 07:11 PM
my experiences with night calling excluding gray fox is that if you have to use a light it really impacts the way a coyote comes to you i won't hardly go after dark unless it's moonlite enough to see that usually takes care of all nights all around here except maybe 6 or 7 a winter but if we get those nights some of the best results i have ever had have been on those nights coyotes are much more in their element much bolder coming in always use a shotgun for night
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JoeF
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posted December 19, 2003 07:28 PM
Leonard, I have a real question that probably doesn't have an easy answer....
What do you do/use for batteries and keeping them charged?
Start out simple and assume that we're only hunting for 4-6 hours and we have the comfort of home to return to when we're done - a good 8 hours rest/recharge before we go again.
Then tell me what you guys do on the serious hunts that you talk about...
IFB - where you at?
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Leonard
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posted December 20, 2003 07:37 AM
Joe, you just don't visit often enough, to suit me! Bad!
Okay, I understand the stuation you describe. I used an aircraft battery, lightweight and with checkvalve caps. I made an aluminum enclosure with a handle and a strap, and a receptacle in the top. But, I'd look at one of the portable jump start batteries, these days, before going to all that trouble. They are compact, have a handle, of sorts. Some have a small air compressor. Whatever. You can cut the jumper cables, or unbolt from the terminals, whereever youcan gain access. Forget about the usual cigarette lighter plugin, and install a 120V twistlock plug and receptacle, on the side, or whereever? I know you are handy enough to do this.
You know, years ago I built the first electronic caller I ever heard of. I used a regular eight track Motorola tape player in an aluminum housing with 4" speakers, and a handle. Should have held on to it, it would make some people laugh, or a great museum piece, if nothing else?
I think I missed the boat some place? Never wanted to make money on a comercial venture, just wanted to develop some new R&D for killing coyotes.
It's a sickness, not sure if it's curable. I call it: THE FEVER. The symptoms are easily recognizable to those already afflicted.
By the way, some of these space age handlights LED, etc. They seem to lack the focus for a tight beam, which is where a simple Maglight can work, because you can put the red filter on it, and twist it from a wide flood beam for hunting , and then dial it in to a pencil beam for a shot. I have used one many times, in a pinch.
Good hunting. LB
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Doug
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posted December 20, 2003 09:09 AM
Leonard,
I'd like to see pictures of your night hunting rig and other night hunting equiptment that you've modified for my own viewing pleasure and not to be posted or otherwise shared with anyone else. Thanks and Merry Christmas!
Doug
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Krustyklimber
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posted December 20, 2003 06:50 PM
What about fog or snow flying, how do you keep from being blinded by the reflected light?
Or is that like wind, you just don't bother going, if it's too bad?
I haven't been night hunting enough times to have any questions.
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Leonard
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posted December 21, 2003 08:39 AM
I'm no expert on weather, but it seems to me that cold weather and fog usually indicate that the snow is coming soon. Fog is difficult, you get a lot of bounce back on the light beam.
Snow, not usually a problem until it gets heavier, and then you should wait it out and be ready to hunt when it stops.
Rain. They usually run very well, but it's not comfortable, getting wet. You get a lot of sparkle from the raindrops, working the light, making it hard to pick up a set of eyes, when they appear. But, if you can stand being out it it, you can score. Rain on your occular lens being the major problem, much more so than on the objective.
Good hunting. LB
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onecoyote
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posted December 21, 2003 07:05 PM
Leonard, do you know about the annual Struble Memorial hunt coming up in Jan? I just heard about it at the High Desert club meeting Fri night. It sounds like it is going to be fun, after the hunt they are going to have a big BBQ on Sun. Alot of the old guys are going to be there, be kind of fun to see them even if you don't hunt. If you already know about it that's cool but if you don't, I can find out everything for you.
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JoeF
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posted December 21, 2003 09:41 PM
Leonard, I don't hit the internet much anymore. The sad, but true, truth is that it somewhat mirrors my coyote hunting activity.
To be very honest, the little bit of time I've spent on the internet has been reading this forum - good stuff. I really liked the neck shooting comments - I might have to find that thread again and add my hillbilly $0.02 to that ...
I have the same fear of running out of battery that a guy might have of running out of ammo... unthinkable, and best avoided.
I run a pair of sealed gel-cells rated at 20 AH, carried in military surplus bags marked US MASK, CHEMICAL-BIOLOGICAL FIELD M17 SERIES. I have no idea how long one will run a light, I chicken out after a few stands and switch to the second one. Our cold weather is hell on batteries.
My shooting light is ran off of a 2.2 AH battery that is carried in an M16 magazine pouch hung from a belt. With the light lit for a few seconds at a time you could hunt the winter on a charge....
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Tim Behle
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posted December 22, 2003 04:27 AM
My night hunting experience is pretty much limited to hunting in Indiana. I've found that hunting by yourself with a rifle, is pretty much a lost cause. To rifle hunt at night, you need one person to work the call and light, and a second person to do the shooting.
Being that I normally hunt alone, my weapon of choice was a shotgun. My favorite was an Ithaca 10 GA. semi-auto a friend had. I never had the extra cash, so I picked up a single shot and did fine. First using copper plated lead BB shot, then when I ran out of my supply for that, I switched to #4 buckshot.
The only brand of light I have personally owned, was the coonhunter type of light made by Nightlight, with the old style head. I paid a Florist .50 for a 3' square piece of red cellophane, tucked a piece under the glass of the lens and had a red filter. The only problem I had with it, was trying to find a dead red fox, with a red light in a hayfield is nearly impossible. So I carried a regular flashlight as well.
I'd angle the light up as high as it would go, then tip the hat up and to the left. This way when I brought the gun up, the light was shining right over the top of it. Kind of awkward, but it worked.
I'd use the rheostat to adjust the brightness so I could barely make out the light hitting the ground 20' away. It would easily pick up incoming eyes at 100 yards. When I'd pick up incoming eyes, I'd turn my body, and place the stock against my shoulder, but not let the barrel come up into the light until ready to shoot. That barrel coming up into the light spooked a lot of predators if I raised it up too soon.
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Carl O
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posted January 05, 2004 05:31 PM
I believe I have solved, for me at least, the solo night hunting problem. I purchased a set of PVS7 NVG's and mounted a laser sight on my Browning 10ga Gold. I have been out twice and the laser sight that I have is so bright using the NVGs that it was useless. It is the reflected light or halo effect that you get when put the laser dot on something. Way too much reflection. I have ordered out a IR laser sight and that should rectify the "halo problem.
There have always been enough coyotes for me during the daylight hours so I have not done any nighttime calling since the sixties. Conditions change though and night time is now apparently the way to go. I did not call anything in on either outing. It was more a proof of concept outing. I hope to post more information when I have been out a few times with the new laser sight.
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Barndog
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posted January 06, 2004 11:42 AM
I think I'm going to give up night hunting, to hard to deal with the kids the next day, and something expensive always happens. Like losing stuff out of the truck when a coyote runs in front of the head lights and everyone tries to get out first. I now own way too many right handed gloves.
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Leonard
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posted January 06, 2004 04:42 PM
Welcome to the New Huntmasters, Carl. Glad to have you on board.
I think your solution is perfect, especially in heavier cover. Of course, El Centro doesn't say heavy cover, to me? Maybe in the groves or date palms, not sure? lol.
Good hunting. LB
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Rich Higgins
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posted January 06, 2004 04:55 PM
Barndog, I have way too many left hand gloves. We should pool our resources and maybe come up with a dozen good pairs.
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DvdNimrod
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posted January 12, 2004 04:26 PM
Leonard,
Since I too like to night hunt in California my question is, do you actually stand in the back of the truck while lighting and shooting or, do you get some distance away from the truck?
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Leonard
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posted January 12, 2004 04:58 PM
Hey, would you want to step on a rattlesnake?
Yes, we generally hunt right from the vehicle.
Good hunting. LB
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Barndog
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posted January 12, 2004 08:59 PM
I just can't give up night hunting. It's just to fun. I usually go with butch and we get messing around and end up shooting way to many rabbits. Anyhow, we took this cop out with us shooting and he had such a good time he wanted to go out the next day, so butch and another frined took him out (I should let butch post this but he never post anything), because I promised the kids I'd take them shooting and sleding. Anyway back to the story. After one of their stands, they were getting in the truck and the cop's 300mag went off in his hand. I guess he looked like the clip of Saddam shooting his rifle from the podium. So just to put in a plug about safety, everyone please be careful.
Rich
stoped saterday night on a hunt to empty a digested pepsi and nearly had you another glove.
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