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Posted by WhiteMtnCur (Member # 5) on July 13, 2003, 03:24 PM:
Are there currently any calling contests that allow night hunting?
Rawlins, St. Francis, and the World Championship are day calling only. The smaller state championships I'm aware of only permit day calling. Do any current contests allow night hunting?
[ July 13, 2003, 03:30 PM: Message edited by: WhiteMtnCur ]
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on July 13, 2003, 05:32 PM:
Other than in California, I doubt it?
Here, there is the Riverside Rebels, Orange County Predator Hunters, High Desert Predator Hunters, National Varmint Callers, and the former San Gabriel Chapter of the C.S.V.C.A. which is now incorporated as the California State Varmint Callers Association. All of these independent Clubs hold hunts that allow night hunting.
Good hunting. LB
Posted by Cal Taylor (Member # 199) on July 13, 2003, 05:45 PM:
Cambell county in Wyoming contest allows night hunting. Also the Weston county contest, which is patterned after the Cambell county one. The Cambell county one is actually a pretty good one. Usually about 70 teams at 100 bucks a team and a calcutta. I just didn't want Leonard to know about them or he'd be up here putting on night hunting seminars.
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on July 13, 2003, 07:35 PM:
That's rather interesting, Cal. Something to think about, eh?
Good hunting. LB
Posted by onecoyote (Member # 129) on July 14, 2003, 02:57 PM:
Night hunting in MY OPINION should always be included in a big contest. It's only a half a contest if you day hunt. It's the same thing as having a World fishing contest in fresh water only, what about the guys that fish saltwater? To be the best should mean the best overall in every aspect of the sport. As Leonard stated, a few California clubs have weekend hunts that include day and night. I do believe I read Texas has some competition night hunts. I've also read that there is a club in Nevada, if so, I'm sure they night hunt too. I'd love to compete in some night hunt, as long as it was held in Nevada or California lol. I ain't that stupid to think I can go into someones elses back yard and stand a chance. Maybe someone can come up with a hunt like that, two days and two nights of balls out hunting to see who the real worlds best is, I'll watch lol, Good Hunting.
Posted by WhiteMtnCur (Member # 5) on July 14, 2003, 06:35 PM:
Danny, you're right. I forgot to mention the Texas contests that are both day and night hunting.
Do you have any more information on the calling club in Nevada?
[ July 14, 2003, 06:36 PM: Message edited by: WhiteMtnCur ]
Posted by onecoyote (Member # 129) on July 15, 2003, 09:20 AM:
WhiteMtnCur, Last time I was up in Elko was a few months ago. I was talking to some local guy, he told me they have a coyote hunt every year. I also talked to another guy in Orvada, he told me the same thing. As far as a club goes, I recal reading about some predator hunting club in Nevada. You guys have one in Utah I read about, do you belong to it? WhiteMtnCur, I got to tell you this. A guy named Jim Terry moved to Utah a few years ago that used to belong to our club for years. I'm sure he is close to 60 now, He was one of the best competition hunters in the state and thats saying something. He held the record for the most animals brought back to a check-in for a long time, as I recal it was 42, but the most awsome part of that was 15 of those animals were bobcats. If you happen to run across Mr.Terry, I'd advise you to pick his brain lol. Good luck trying to find a night hunt and if you do, let Leonard and I know about it please. Good Hunting.
Posted by WhiteMtnCur (Member # 5) on July 15, 2003, 10:08 AM:
The World Championship Coyote Calling Contest was held in Elko NV in 1999 and 2000 if I'm remembering right. But it didn't allow night hunting.
I'll look into that club in Nevada and see if I can turn anything up. There's a club in Utah, but the last I knew about it (which was about a year ago) was that it hosted the Utah State Calling Contest each year and it didn't allow night hunting.
The Utah Trapper's Association holds a coyote calling contest each year and I've been encouraging them to allow night hunting. Whether or not they will allow it will be known in another couple months.
Danny, do you happen to know where in Utah Mr. Terry moved to? I've heard you talk about him before, and a guy named Lyle, but I don't know if he's in Utah also or not?
If I do find a night hunting contest in Utah or Nevada, I think telling you and Leonard about it would be akin to shooting myself in the foot. ![[Wink]](wink.gif)
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Posted by Cal Taylor (Member # 199) on July 15, 2003, 01:11 PM:
A quick note on night hunting in Wyoming.
You have to have written permission from the landowner or leesee. You can't just take off spotlighting.
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on July 15, 2003, 02:18 PM:
Terry? I don't recall, exactly except it seems to me it was the southern part of the state?
Lyle Brookover started in Orange County Chapter in the 1960s and then joined San Gabriel Valley Chapter.
We don't know much about what he is up to these days, except he's remarried, retired and has pretty much given up predator hunting for golf of all things! But, in his day, he won a lot of hunts.
I bought his hunting rig about twelve years ago. (you have the pictures, Trevor)
And, as Danny can attest, San Gabriel has always had the best hunters, year in year out, decade after decade.
A quick look at their membership will list more State Champions than all others combined.
Guys like Miller and Jerry Burns, the Sundeens, the Orelli's. Danny's partner, Granville, came originally from San Gabriel. One of my old partners, Bill Odom, is on staff with Primos KBA Outdoors. Lyle Brookover, Rick McKovich, Gary Thomas, John Van Oort...the list goes on.
ah, what were we talking about, anyway? :0
Good hunting. LB
Posted by DAA (Member # 11) on July 15, 2003, 02:32 PM:
Trevor, "you got mail".
- DAA
Posted by onecoyote (Member # 129) on July 16, 2003, 06:01 PM:
Gee Leonard, I hate to have to tell you you're wrong, ![[Frown]](frown.gif)
but I have to on this one. Granville started off in the old Long Beach Chapter 15. He hunted with me from 1978, the year he joined, till 1981. After that, he was in San Gabriel for a year. He help start the So. Cal. Chapter 16, and stayed with that club for a few years. He then started his own club called the (Southern) California Varmint Callers Association. That club is still going strong and just recently voted me in as an honorary life member.... cool huh. As far as San Gabriel always winning state championships, not so. They no doubt won more than anyone else and have also had some of the best hunters ever ( Orelli and Brookover ). You have to remember, Miller and Burns along with Sundeen, would not have known where to go if Rick and Lyle didn't tell them where and how. Hey, I remember one year I was in So. Cal. We won the state chapter championship, possibly in 88? Orange County has won a few in its' day too. They had a team that was always in the top three and always had to be reckoned with. All I know is that it was hard work and lots of fun. We can't do what we used to do anymore, so I count myself lucky to have been there and done it, same as you I'm sure. Good Hunting.
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on July 16, 2003, 09:31 PM:
Oops, wrong eh? Well, Granville, for sure was in SGV when I came back to that club, after a few years in Covina Chapter; but I didn't know he was in Long Beach before that? Okay, but everything he knows, he learned from Miller and Burns?
Possibly? ![[Smile]](smile.gif)
Could a happened?
Once Terry left, O.C. had just one competitive team in Rebel and Steinberger.
Okay, SoCal probably won the year Orelli and Brookover lost a ton of animals. Doug and Eric won, but only turned in 29 animals. In fact, I don't think Lyle ever got over it? Was that the year you never showed up to sign out the late check ins?
Good hunting. LB
Posted by onecoyote (Member # 129) on July 17, 2003, 08:58 AM:
Granville and I in the Long Beach Chapter had competition animal counts of 20, 22, 24 and 37, that was before Miller and Burns ever heard of him lol. I showed alot of guys how to hunt, Eric learned from me in So.Cal, Doug learned a few things from me too. I made that check-in the year Doug, Eric and someone else got 29, I think we came back with 22, not sure. Beleive it or not, I didn't really go on that many state hunts in 25 years, maybe 6 or 7 weekend hunts, 2 or 3 24 hr hunts and 3 or 4 day hunts, that's about it. I kind of miss it, don't you. Good Hunting.
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on July 17, 2003, 10:05 AM:
Maybe we should plan a hunt together, Danny? Just to say we did. I'm always open to learn a few things.
A question. Do you think "areas" is more important than method; or gear, and all the tech stuff?
I mean, you can have flipper lights and super accurate guns, and yet, don't know how to work an animal.
You can hunt coyote heaven, but not know what you are doing, and blank.
All those things contribute, but what's the key ingredient?
Good hunting. LB
Posted by onecoyote (Member # 129) on July 17, 2003, 10:57 AM:
You're asking me lol? You know it's a combination of all you just said. But you can't kill 40 coyotes if they are not there no matter what you know or how good a shot you are. You've been there and done all that stuff, why you asking me? Good Hunting.
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on July 17, 2003, 12:07 PM:
Yeah, I'm asking you. Mainly because you are the only one on these boards that understands the question.
*No offense to anyone else that may be reading this, my comment does not mean that others may not have a solid grasp of the subject matter.
But Danny is the only other CSVCA member that participates on any of the boards, and he does know what I'm talking about, and is able to to decipher my doublespeak. And, make no mistake; it is doublespeak, I'm not (actually) dropping "take it to the bank" valuable content.
Some of this stuff will be taken to the grave, right, Danny? Just little teasers, here and there.
Ramblings by a couple of old coots, past their prime, rattling on, about the good old days.
But, yes , I'm asking. It sounds like you are saying there's is no substitute for hot areas?
Good hunting. LB
Posted by onecoyote (Member # 129) on July 18, 2003, 09:10 AM:
Yes, that's what I'm saying. In my opinion, no matter what a hunter knows or how good he or she can shoot, you can't get them if they aren't there. You could be the best fisherman on earth but if there is nothing in the lake, you're not going to catch anything. So I think that area is the most important aspect. As we both know, the guys that won state hunts knew where to go and how to hunt. Those factors along with many others are what it takes to win the big ones. I'll say this, when Granville and I hunted together, we were a machine. We didn't have to say a word, we knew what the other guy was thinking. We also hunted great areas which is why we got big numbers. I'm sure you have had a partner like that, they are not easy to find. I guess you're right, we are just two old farts remembering the good old days. Unfortunately, the newer guys coming up will never get to do what we did. That's the sad part. Oh well, maybe they'll listen to our stories? lol Good Hunting.
Posted by Rich Higgins (Member # 3) on July 18, 2003, 10:31 AM:
Danny, I don't have your E-mail address, mine is posted. If you will send me your's I would like to talk to you about getting your stories on video.
Posted by varmit hunter (Member # 37) on July 21, 2003, 09:30 AM:
Leonard, I remember reading in GUN WORLD back in 1964,65 about the huge contest held out there.
To me that was the Indy 500 of the sport. I thought about going to stay with a Aunt that lived out there. Just to get in on one of those huge contest. Did you compete in any of those?.
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on July 21, 2003, 03:37 PM:
Yeah, Ronnie. We held hunts within hunts. We would compete within our own chapter. We, as a chapter competed against the other chapters, of which there were about eighteen, at the time. And, of course we competed in total kill against the Arizona clubs. And, there was trophies for the best individual teams.
So, something for everybody. The only problem was that California won too much, too often and Arizona clubs decided to fold their tents. That was around 1970, the last one, although there was some semi-serious talk of reviving the hunt, four or five years ago.
Jim Doughtery used to give it a big writeup in Gun World. I believe Richard Grantham participated for the opposition(?) usually held at the Blythe Marina right on the border, Colorado River. At the time, I could manage a second or third at the chapter level., we were a young club, barely two years old.
Good hunting. LB
Posted by onecoyote (Member # 129) on July 22, 2003, 04:26 PM:
Leonard, you're right about always beating the Arizona guys. Although they had some of the best hunters, we out numbered them and numbers is what wins hunts lol. I for one would love to see that hunt start up again. I'd bet some of the old timers would show up just because it was THE HUNT.....CVCA.....vs.....AVCA. I wonder if we could still beat them guys? I'll bet 20 bucks we could lol. ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif)
Good Hunting.
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on July 22, 2003, 04:54 PM:
Take it easy, cowboy!
The Phoenix club alone, has about 500 members.
However, based on some of the reports I have heard, about their club hunts, we could beat the whole bunch with three good teams.
Oops, did I say that?
Good hunting. LB
Posted by Rich Higgins (Member # 3) on July 22, 2003, 06:13 PM:
Leonard, yes you really did say that! Yosemite Sam is a member of our club and he says" Tell that 'pusilaminous polecat' to bring it on.lol
BTW, something you really might be interested in the "World Championship Coyote Calling Contest-tm" has now added a night hunt as an annual event. The day hunt is held the first weekend in Dec. and the night hunt is held the first weekend in Feb. Sound interesting?
Posted by WhiteMtnCur (Member # 5) on July 22, 2003, 06:40 PM:
Rich, want to tell us a little more about this night hunt? What state is it going to be in? Who's putting the hunt together? Etc.
Thanks.
Posted by Tim Behle (Member # 209) on July 22, 2003, 08:32 PM:
Leonard,
Just how sure of yourself are you?
This could be fun!
Posted by Rich Higgins (Member # 3) on July 22, 2003, 08:55 PM:
Trevor, the info is from a brochure I picked up at the NTA convention Sat. It is produced by the tm'ed organization I posted. Their phone # is 623-516-9004
Posted by varmit hunter (Member # 37) on July 23, 2003, 04:20 PM:
Leonard, You bringing up the Blythe Marina brought back some miserable memories.
I think it was 65 when Jim Doughtery had the great idea of borrowing a boat. His plan was to slay countless critters from the boat that night. I think it was a hour after dark when they grounded the boat on a sand bar. They were surrounded by fog all night. They did not call up one thing. Just as it got light enough to see a lone Snow Goose flew by. Jim blasted it with buck shot. Don't think he got any points at check in.
Well as soon as I read Jim used a boat, And here I am living in the middle of bayou country. A water assault was planed for that Friday night.
We headed up a major bayou about ten miles before making our first stand. Not a eye. Got back in the boat, And the condenser had burned out.
Well we have a little quirk of nature down here called a tide. Yelp is was running the wrong way. Got back to the dock nine hours later.
Jim Daughtery and I were talking at the SHOT show in about 91. I told him how his water safari had inspired my fiasco. I think we both wound up agreeing that we were long on ideas in those days, But short on since.
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on July 23, 2003, 04:32 PM:
Tim, my friend. I'm just joking around, didn't mean a thing.
Ask Rich Higgins about the club hunts that he has been on. Find out what it would take to win and how many teams bring back animals, and what the total body count might be, for an average winter month.
Now, on our side, it would take about 35/40 anmals to win a State hunt. Third place would probably have around twenty?some animals. Record is a mixed bag/46 animals. You would be looking at, possibly 80/90 animals from the top three teams? But, this is for a hunt that starts at 8 P.M. Friday and ends 3:00 P.M. on Sunday, say 43 hours, including travel time. For a weekend hunt, it is common to travel six hours each direction, and drive 1200/1500 miles round trip.
For a twenty-four hour hunt, the record is 27 coyotes. Average winning kill on a daylight hunt, starting 4/5 A.M, and ending, say six P.M. about 14 hours, including travel time; 8/12 coyotes.
Truthfully, I don't know what kind of kills the Phoenix club turns in, for everybody that wants to hunt? But, I don't think they would total two, to three dozen? Could be wrong?
Hey, don't forget, I'm just jacking your chain, don't take me serious.
Good hunting. LB
edit: Ronnie, I remember that deal, or I read about it, not sure which? One thing you can count on is a predator hunter always comes up with some hairbrained scheme to win a hunt. Occasionally, it even works! LB
[ July 23, 2003, 04:36 PM: Message edited by: Leonard ]
Posted by Tim Behle (Member # 209) on July 23, 2003, 06:35 PM:
Leonard,
Very few things have ever made me feel competitive. I hate sports, but I love hunting coyotes.
I wasn't thinking anything big and fancy. Just maybe you and who ever you choose meet up with me and whoever I could talk into going along. Start at dawn and meet up a couple of hours after dark, and a truckstop someplace. Who ever brings back the fewest coyotes buys supper.
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on July 23, 2003, 06:49 PM:
Yeah, I wouldn't mind that, a bit! BUT, you wouldn't be stacking the deck with one of your local wizards, would you? Hardly seems fair?
Good hunting. LB
Posted by Tim Behle (Member # 209) on July 23, 2003, 07:46 PM:
If Vic wants to come, he's more than welcome. But there's no way I'd ask John-Henry, I like to hunt coyotes, not listen to the two of you argue, or hear the entire list of the other one's faults all day.
I could use a good shooter like Vic, rumor has it he is a tail pipe specialist with a knack for picking up that last coyote.
Just to make things fair, maybe he'd agree to leave his WT at home?
Posted by onecoyote (Member # 129) on July 23, 2003, 11:03 PM:
Rich, what kind of varmint is a pusilaminous polecat? Leonard, they got 500 members on the other side of the river? that means we better bring 4 teams huh lol. It's about time the World competition hunt added night hunting. The only thing wrong with the way they are doing it is, it should all be held at the same time in Dec. One weekend, 48 hrs of hard hunting, day and night, winner take all. One last thing I'd like to see them do is add other predators ( bobcats, gray fox ) to the competition, there are more then coyotes in them there hills. It does sound interesting though, Good Hunting.
Posted by onecoyote (Member # 129) on July 30, 2003, 07:23 PM:
Gee you guys, I though this was a good thread. I was having fun and hoping something would happen with a hunt this winter (the old Arizona vs California hunt again). Did I say something wrong again? If I did I'm sorry, I was just funning. Man, being old has it's drawbacks. Nobody understands my since of humor except Leonard lol, Good Hunting.
Posted by Tim Behle (Member # 209) on July 30, 2003, 09:11 PM:
Danny,
You didn't say anything wrong. But it's too hot to hunt much right now, so I thought I'd hold off for a few months and then remind you.
You're not planning on dieing before Christmas are you?
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on July 31, 2003, 06:55 AM:
quote:
You're not planning on dieing before Christmas are you?
No, but at his age, the odds are not as good as they once were.....
Posted by Tim Behle (Member # 209) on July 31, 2003, 09:18 AM:
Doesn't sound good for either of you.
Aren't you three years older than Danny?
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on July 31, 2003, 09:34 AM:
Not true, Tim. I'm a year older than Danny and Bruce.
I haven't had as much "fun" as they have, judging by appearances.
(whoo hoo, is that catty or what?)
Posted by onecoyote (Member # 129) on July 31, 2003, 02:15 PM:
Hey, just a minute there Leonard. I thought I looked younger then you and Bruce. ![[Roll Eyes]](rolleyes.gif)
I must look younger then you two guys, I've had 4 wives to prove it lol. Think about this way. My first wife was 5 years younger, second wife 10 years younger, third wife was 18 years younger and the current one (by the way this is my last one) she's 14 years younger. Now I'd call that good for an old man, it has to be my looks lol.
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on September 06, 2003, 08:59 AM:
Danny, the trick is, don't marry them. Sheesh!
Memo: this contest stuff sucks, anymore!
I must be over the hill?
Tim, you have almost a "walkover" but you will have to join me at our local Sycamore Inn, for that steak, on me. I haven't seen sweet potato on the menu, but I'll bring one with me, if need be?
It's worth the ride.
Good hunting. LB
edit: PS Rich Higgins taught me how to pronounce Beh-le, at least we have that cleared up! Thanks, Rich!
[ September 06, 2003, 09:04 AM: Message edited by: Leonard ]
Posted by Tim Behle (Member # 209) on September 06, 2003, 09:31 AM:
Leonard,
Why don't you just hold off and come back this winter when the temps drop and the calling gets good?
Maybe we can go back up there to the Tom Mix Monument and call each other a lion?
Tim
[ September 06, 2003, 09:32 AM: Message edited by: Tim Behle ]
Posted by lyote (Member # 235) on September 17, 2003, 08:29 PM:
i have been night hunting since 1964,and never have been in a contest that allowed night hunting that would be great. i hunted the world contest in 1999 and took 9th and the largest coyote. it was great, except for running into other hunters. i also hunted in three utah contests,placing third and fourth.i would love to hunt in one that allowed both day and night.
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on September 17, 2003, 08:53 PM:
Welcome to the New Huntmasters, lyote. Glad to have you on board.
Good hunting. LB
PS, contest hunting (day and night) is very difficult, you get no sleep.
Posted by onecoyote (Member # 129) on September 20, 2003, 06:47 PM:
Iyote, 1964 was a very good year, seems many of us started hunting predators around that time. Did you start in Utah, Nevada or California? Leonard, did you say difficult, it was worse then that. I have a feeling nobody really understands what it took to do what we did unless they did it too, we must have been nuts lol.
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on September 21, 2003, 10:00 AM:
Well, I'm sure of one thing. We're both nutts.
And it probably took 5-10 years off our lifespan?
Those were the days. LB
Posted by Tim Behle (Member # 209) on September 21, 2003, 10:51 AM:
Your right Danny, 1964 was a very good year.
I was born that November ![[Razz]](tongue.gif)
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on September 21, 2003, 11:45 AM:
Memo to self:
Don't bother asking Tim where he was, when Kennedy was shot.
Good hunting. LB
Posted by Cal Taylor (Member # 199) on September 25, 2003, 04:32 AM:
Tim, and others, 1964 must have been a really good year. I was born in December. Tim, just remember that we still got a couple of years before we have to join the "over the hill" club that the rest of these old farts are in. LOL!!!
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on September 25, 2003, 09:04 AM:
Weird, but true.
My son, born Dec. 1963 and not exactly a babe in the woods; can hardly keep up with the old man on a big hunt.
Some old farts have had extensive training in sleep deprivation, and it's hard to understand, let alone appreciate.
Kinda like a marathon poker game?
Certifiably nuts, would be another way of saying it.
Good hunting. LB
Posted by onecoyote (Member # 129) on September 25, 2003, 01:51 PM:
lol.
Posted by Crow Woman (Member # 157) on October 03, 2003, 04:35 AM:
ya'll want to know about a contest with night hunting allowed??
go here:
http://www.pennswoods.net/~mosquito/index.html
Those who have my book read the stories: I Left without the cash but came home with the gold
Out of state license for Pennsylvania, small game 7 day license is around $38.00, last checked.
Contest is usually $10.00. Five goes to the club and the other five goes to the contest.
Close to 5,000 people enter the contest. It's not the numbers back here, it's the biggest coyote taken. It's state wide. Usually starts around 12:01 2/20/04 running to the afternoon of 2/22/04 for weigh-in. Usually $200 per coyote is given, but the heaviest wins the grand prize which has been seen to be $10,000 and up depending on how many people sign up.
Can't beat that western hunters. It would more than pay for your airfare
People from all over the country sign up for this.
Crow Woman
Posted by onecoyote (Member # 129) on October 04, 2003, 03:41 PM:
Crow Woman, how are you doing, I kinda miss talking to you. $10,000 dollers for the biggest coyote....dang. Hey, I have an idea. If you inject mercury with a syringe just under the hide of the coyote, you can put lots of weight on it and nobody well ever know. Crow Woman if you win with my idea I want some money ok lol.
Posted by Crow Woman (Member # 157) on October 05, 2003, 08:30 AM:
ah, no can do Danny Darlin. They get real serious, blood test, stomach contents and a slew of other stuff like looking to see if the animal was previously frozen and thawed out for the contest. Someone was caught some time ago trying to bring in a coyote from Texas. But if I ever win, I'll share
I'm doing good by the way.
It got a little scarey
It was small and hairy
The catepillar, you see
That shed it's hairs on me
Down for 38 days
Fever and head out of it's ways
Was I coherent, not much
rash and sore to touch
Then, the sun shined and the fever broke
The fog cleared and the eyes awoke
A lesson learned to not take lightly the little things
That they hold just as much importance in what life brings
Posted by onecoyote (Member # 129) on October 07, 2003, 12:22 AM:
You are something else Crow Woman. You need to write another book, maybe one about old predator hunters like Leonard and me lol. Heck, we could spend years telling you stories, by the time you were done with the book, we'd be dead and you'd be old lol.
Posted by brad h (Member # 57) on October 07, 2003, 01:46 AM:
Lots of contests in this area. Probably one per weekend for a month starting in December or January. These small towns get organized so everything doesn't happen at the same time. Got a light? Hit em at night! Problem is, they won't show up. Why is it night calling sucks around here? If there's one thing that bugs me till I die, that'll be it.
Hey Crow Woman, the markets lookin up on the bigger yotes this season. Your areas the cats meow, or dogs bark (so to speak) Good luck, and keep us posted!
Brad
Posted by Crow Woman (Member # 157) on October 07, 2003, 03:11 AM:
I will keep you posted Brad if I ever get a chance to get out from behind this desk. The paper's got me hopping and they just gave me my own column on top of the other reporting. You'll never guess what the column's title is "As The Crow Fly's"
Posted by Crow Woman (Member # 157) on October 07, 2003, 03:19 AM:
Danny, if I write a book about you and Leonard and you just happened to autograph a page and then you died, the book would be worth a heckofa lot and it wouldn't matter what I wrote in it as long as it had autographs
Hey, that's an idea, everybody start sending me an autograph with a small inscription! "Signed Last Words of Advice from Coyote Heaven"
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