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Author Topic: Any Contests? WhiteMtnCur Knows what it's all about Member # 5 posted July 13, 2003 03:24 PM                       Are there currently any calling contests that allow night hunting? Rawlins, St. Francis, and the World Championship are day calling only. The smaller state championships I'm aware of only permit day calling. Do any current contests allow night hunting? [ July 13, 2003, 03:30 PM: Message edited by: WhiteMtnCur ] Posts: 97 | From: Nevada | Registered: Jan 2003  |  IP: Logged Leonard HMFIC Member # 2 posted July 13, 2003 05:32 PM                       Other than in California, I doubt it? Here, there is the Riverside Rebels, Orange County Predator Hunters, High Desert Predator Hunters, National Varmint Callers, and the former San Gabriel Chapter of the C.S.V.C.A. which is now incorporated as the California State Varmint Callers Association. All of these independent Clubs hold hunts that allow night hunting. Good hunting. LB -------------------- EL BEE Knows It All and Done It All. Don't piss me off! Posts: 32361 | From: Upland, CA | Registered: Jan 2003  |  IP: Logged Cal Taylor Knows what it's all about Member # 199 posted July 13, 2003 05:45 PM                    Cambell county in Wyoming contest allows night hunting. Also the Weston county contest, which is patterned after the Cambell county one. The Cambell county one is actually a pretty good one. Usually about 70 teams at 100 bucks a team and a calcutta. I just didn't want Leonard to know about them or he'd be up here putting on night hunting seminars. -------------------- Democracy is two wolves and a lamb deciding what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote. FoxPro Field Staff Member Posts: 1069 | From: Wyoming | Registered: May 2003  |  IP: Logged Leonard HMFIC Member # 2 posted July 13, 2003 07:35 PM                       That's rather interesting, Cal. Something to think about, eh? Good hunting. LB -------------------- EL BEE Knows It All and Done It All. Don't piss me off! Posts: 32361 | From: Upland, CA | Registered: Jan 2003  |  IP: Logged onecoyote Knows what it's all about Member # 129 posted July 14, 2003 02:57 PM                   Night hunting in MY OPINION should always be included in a big contest. It's only a half a contest if you day hunt. It's the same thing as having a World fishing contest in fresh water only, what about the guys that fish saltwater? To be the best should mean the best overall in every aspect of the sport. As Leonard stated, a few California clubs have weekend hunts that include day and night. I do believe I read Texas has some competition night hunts. I've also read that there is a club in Nevada, if so, I'm sure they night hunt too. I'd love to compete in some night hunt, as long as it was held in Nevada or California lol. I ain't that stupid to think I can go into someones elses back yard and stand a chance. Maybe someone can come up with a hunt like that, two days and two nights of balls out hunting to see who the real worlds best is, I'll watch lol, Good Hunting. -------------------- Great minds discuss ideas.....Average minds discuss events.....Small minds discuss people.....Eleanor Roosevelt. Posts: 893 | From: Walker Lake Nevada. | Registered: Feb 2003  |  IP: Logged WhiteMtnCur Knows what it's all about Member # 5 posted July 14, 2003 06:35 PM                       Danny, you're right. I forgot to mention the Texas contests that are both day and night hunting. Do you have any more information on the calling club in Nevada? [ July 14, 2003, 06:36 PM: Message edited by: WhiteMtnCur ] Posts: 97 | From: Nevada | Registered: Jan 2003  |  IP: Logged onecoyote Knows what it's all about Member # 129 posted July 15, 2003 09:20 AM                   WhiteMtnCur, Last time I was up in Elko was a few months ago. I was talking to some local guy, he told me they have a coyote hunt every year. I also talked to another guy in Orvada, he told me the same thing. As far as a club goes, I recal reading about some predator hunting club in Nevada. You guys have one in Utah I read about, do you belong to it? WhiteMtnCur, I got to tell you this. A guy named Jim Terry moved to Utah a few years ago that used to belong to our club for years. I'm sure he is close to 60 now, He was one of the best competition hunters in the state and thats saying something. He held the record for the most animals brought back to a check-in for a long time, as I recal it was 42, but the most awsome part of that was 15 of those animals were bobcats. If you happen to run across Mr.Terry, I'd advise you to pick his brain lol. Good luck trying to find a night hunt and if you do, let Leonard and I know about it please. Good Hunting. -------------------- Great minds discuss ideas.....Average minds discuss events.....Small minds discuss people.....Eleanor Roosevelt. Posts: 893 | From: Walker Lake Nevada. | Registered: Feb 2003  |  IP: Logged WhiteMtnCur Knows what it's all about Member # 5 posted July 15, 2003 10:08 AM                       The World Championship Coyote Calling Contest was held in Elko NV in 1999 and 2000 if I'm remembering right. But it didn't allow night hunting. I'll look into that club in Nevada and see if I can turn anything up. There's a club in Utah, but the last I knew about it (which was about a year ago) was that it hosted the Utah State Calling Contest each year and it didn't allow night hunting. The Utah Trapper's Association holds a coyote calling contest each year and I've been encouraging them to allow night hunting. Whether or not they will allow it will be known in another couple months. Danny, do you happen to know where in Utah Mr. Terry moved to? I've heard you talk about him before, and a guy named Lyle, but I don't know if he's in Utah also or not? If I do find a night hunting contest in Utah or Nevada, I think telling you and Leonard about it would be akin to shooting myself in the foot. [ July 15, 2003, 10:09 AM: Message edited by: WhiteMtnCur ] Posts: 97 | From: Nevada | Registered: Jan 2003  |  IP: Logged Cal Taylor Knows what it's all about Member # 199 posted July 15, 2003 01:11 PM                    A quick note on night hunting in Wyoming. You have to have written permission from the landowner or leesee. You can't just take off spotlighting. -------------------- Democracy is two wolves and a lamb deciding what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote. FoxPro Field Staff Member Posts: 1069 | From: Wyoming | Registered: May 2003  |  IP: Logged Leonard HMFIC Member # 2 posted July 15, 2003 02:18 PM                       Terry? I don't recall, exactly except it seems to me it was the southern part of the state? Lyle Brookover started in Orange County Chapter in the 1960s and then joined San Gabriel Valley Chapter. We don't know much about what he is up to these days, except he's remarried, retired and has pretty much given up predator hunting for golf of all things! But, in his day, he won a lot of hunts. I bought his hunting rig about twelve years ago. (you have the pictures, Trevor) And, as Danny can attest, San Gabriel has always had the best hunters, year in year out, decade after decade. A quick look at their membership will list more State Champions than all others combined. Guys like Miller and Jerry Burns, the Sundeens, the Orelli's. Danny's partner, Granville, came originally from San Gabriel. One of my old partners, Bill Odom, is on staff with Primos KBA Outdoors. Lyle Brookover, Rick McKovich, Gary Thomas, John Van Oort...the list goes on. ah, what were we talking about, anyway? :0 Good hunting. LB -------------------- EL BEE Knows It All and Done It All. Don't piss me off! Posts: 32361 | From: Upland, CA | Registered: Jan 2003  |  IP: Logged DAA Utah/Promoted WESTERN REGIONAL Hunt Director Member # 11 posted July 15, 2003 02:32 PM                       Trevor, "you got mail". - DAA -------------------- "Oh yeah, they're gonna talk to you, and talk to you, and talk to you about individual freedom, but they see a free individual, it's gonna scare 'em." -- George Hanson, Easy Rider, 1969. Rocky Mountain Varmint Hunter Posts: 2676 | From: Salt Lake City, UT | Registered: Jan 2003  |  IP: Logged onecoyote Knows what it's all about Member # 129 posted July 16, 2003 06:01 PM                   Gee Leonard, I hate to have to tell you you're wrong, but I have to on this one. Granville started off in the old Long Beach Chapter 15. He hunted with me from 1978, the year he joined, till 1981. After that, he was in San Gabriel for a year. He help start the So. Cal. Chapter 16, and stayed with that club for a few years. He then started his own club called the (Southern) California Varmint Callers Association. That club is still going strong and just recently voted me in as an honorary life member.... cool huh. As far as San Gabriel always winning state championships, not so. They no doubt won more than anyone else and have also had some of the best hunters ever ( Orelli and Brookover ). You have to remember, Miller and Burns along with Sundeen, would not have known where to go if Rick and Lyle didn't tell them where and how. Hey, I remember one year I was in So. Cal. We won the state chapter championship, possibly in 88? Orange County has won a few in its' day too. They had a team that was always in the top three and always had to be reckoned with. All I know is that it was hard work and lots of fun. We can't do what we used to do anymore, so I count myself lucky to have been there and done it, same as you I'm sure. Good Hunting. -------------------- Great minds discuss ideas.....Average minds discuss events.....Small minds discuss people.....Eleanor Roosevelt. Posts: 893 | From: Walker Lake Nevada. | Registered: Feb 2003  |  IP: Logged Leonard HMFIC Member # 2 posted July 16, 2003 09:31 PM                       Oops, wrong eh? Well, Granville, for sure was in SGV when I came back to that club, after a few years in Covina Chapter; but I didn't know he was in Long Beach before that? Okay, but everything he knows, he learned from Miller and Burns? Possibly? Could a happened? Once Terry left, O.C. had just one competitive team in Rebel and Steinberger. Okay, SoCal probably won the year Orelli and Brookover lost a ton of animals. Doug and Eric won, but only turned in 29 animals. In fact, I don't think Lyle ever got over it? Was that the year you never showed up to sign out the late check ins? Good hunting. LB -------------------- EL BEE Knows It All and Done It All. Don't piss me off! Posts: 32361 | From: Upland, CA | Registered: Jan 2003  |  IP: Logged onecoyote Knows what it's all about Member # 129 posted July 17, 2003 08:58 AM                   Granville and I in the Long Beach Chapter had competition animal counts of 20, 22, 24 and 37, that was before Miller and Burns ever heard of him lol. I showed alot of guys how to hunt, Eric learned from me in So.Cal, Doug learned a few things from me too. I made that check-in the year Doug, Eric and someone else got 29, I think we came back with 22, not sure. Beleive it or not, I didn't really go on that many state hunts in 25 years, maybe 6 or 7 weekend hunts, 2 or 3 24 hr hunts and 3 or 4 day hunts, that's about it. I kind of miss it, don't you. Good Hunting. -------------------- Great minds discuss ideas.....Average minds discuss events.....Small minds discuss people.....Eleanor Roosevelt. Posts: 893 | From: Walker Lake Nevada. | Registered: Feb 2003  |  IP: Logged Leonard HMFIC Member # 2 posted July 17, 2003 10:05 AM                       Maybe we should plan a hunt together, Danny? Just to say we did. I'm always open to learn a few things. A question. Do you think "areas" is more important than method; or gear, and all the tech stuff? I mean, you can have flipper lights and super accurate guns, and yet, don't know how to work an animal. You can hunt coyote heaven, but not know what you are doing, and blank. All those things contribute, but what's the key ingredient? Good hunting. LB -------------------- EL BEE Knows It All and Done It All. Don't piss me off! Posts: 32361 | From: Upland, CA | Registered: Jan 2003  |  IP: Logged onecoyote Knows what it's all about Member # 129 posted July 17, 2003 10:57 AM                   You're asking me lol? You know it's a combination of all you just said. But you can't kill 40 coyotes if they are not there no matter what you know or how good a shot you are. You've been there and done all that stuff, why you asking me? Good Hunting. -------------------- Great minds discuss ideas.....Average minds discuss events.....Small minds discuss people.....Eleanor Roosevelt. Posts: 893 | From: Walker Lake Nevada. | Registered: Feb 2003  |  IP: Logged Leonard HMFIC Member # 2 posted July 17, 2003 12:07 PM                       Yeah, I'm asking you. Mainly because you are the only one on these boards that understands the question. *No offense to anyone else that may be reading this, my comment does not mean that others may not have a solid grasp of the subject matter. But Danny is the only other CSVCA member that participates on any of the boards, and he does know what I'm talking about, and is able to to decipher my doublespeak. And, make no mistake; it is doublespeak, I'm not (actually) dropping "take it to the bank" valuable content. Some of this stuff will be taken to the grave, right, Danny? Just little teasers, here and there. Ramblings by a couple of old coots, past their prime, rattling on, about the good old days. But, yes , I'm asking. It sounds like you are saying there's is no substitute for hot areas? Good hunting. LB -------------------- EL BEE Knows It All and Done It All. Don't piss me off! Posts: 32361 | From: Upland, CA | Registered: Jan 2003  |  IP: Logged onecoyote Knows what it's all about Member # 129 posted July 18, 2003 09:10 AM                   Yes, that's what I'm saying. In my opinion, no matter what a hunter knows or how good he or she can shoot, you can't get them if they aren't there. You could be the best fisherman on earth but if there is nothing in the lake, you're not going to catch anything. So I think that area is the most important aspect. As we both know, the guys that won state hunts knew where to go and how to hunt. Those factors along with many others are what it takes to win the big ones. I'll say this, when Granville and I hunted together, we were a machine. We didn't have to say a word, we knew what the other guy was thinking. We also hunted great areas which is why we got big numbers. I'm sure you have had a partner like that, they are not easy to find. I guess you're right, we are just two old farts remembering the good old days. Unfortunately, the newer guys coming up will never get to do what we did. That's the sad part. Oh well, maybe they'll listen to our stories? lol Good Hunting. -------------------- Great minds discuss ideas.....Average minds discuss events.....Small minds discuss people.....Eleanor Roosevelt. Posts: 893 | From: Walker Lake Nevada. | Registered: Feb 2003  |  IP: Logged Rich Higgins unknown comic posted July 18, 2003 10:31 AM              Danny, I don't have your E-mail address, mine is posted. If you will send me your's I would like to talk to you about getting your stories on video. IP: Logged varmit hunter Knows what it's all about Member # 37 posted July 21, 2003 09:30 AM                    Leonard, I remember reading in GUN WORLD back in 1964,65 about the huge contest held out there. To me that was the Indy 500 of the sport. I thought about going to stay with a Aunt that lived out there. Just to get in on one of those huge contest. Did you compete in any of those?. -------------------- Make them pay for the wind. Posts: 932 | From: Orange,TX | Registered: Jan 2003  |  IP: Logged Leonard HMFIC Member # 2 posted July 21, 2003 03:37 PM                       Yeah, Ronnie. We held hunts within hunts. We would compete within our own chapter. We, as a chapter competed against the other chapters, of which there were about eighteen, at the time. And, of course we competed in total kill against the Arizona clubs. And, there was trophies for the best individual teams. So, something for everybody. The only problem was that California won too much, too often and Arizona clubs decided to fold their tents. That was around 1970, the last one, although there was some semi-serious talk of reviving the hunt, four or five years ago. Jim Doughtery used to give it a big writeup in Gun World. I believe Richard Grantham participated for the opposition(?) usually held at the Blythe Marina right on the border, Colorado River. At the time, I could manage a second or third at the chapter level., we were a young club, barely two years old. Good hunting. LB -------------------- EL BEE Knows It All and Done It All. Don't piss me off! Posts: 32361 | From: Upland, CA | Registered: Jan 2003  |  IP: Logged onecoyote Knows what it's all about Member # 129 posted July 22, 2003 04:26 PM                   Leonard, you're right about always beating the Arizona guys. Although they had some of the best hunters, we out numbered them and numbers is what wins hunts lol. I for one would love to see that hunt start up again. I'd bet some of the old timers would show up just because it was THE HUNT.....CVCA.....vs.....AVCA. I wonder if we could still beat them guys? I'll bet 20 bucks we could lol. Good Hunting. -------------------- Great minds discuss ideas.....Average minds discuss events.....Small minds discuss people.....Eleanor Roosevelt. Posts: 893 | From: Walker Lake Nevada. | Registered: Feb 2003  |  IP: Logged Leonard HMFIC Member # 2 posted July 22, 2003 04:54 PM                       Take it easy, cowboy! The Phoenix club alone, has about 500 members. However, based on some of the reports I have heard, about their club hunts, we could beat the whole bunch with three good teams. Oops, did I say that? Good hunting. LB -------------------- EL BEE Knows It All and Done It All. Don't piss me off! Posts: 32361 | From: Upland, CA | Registered: Jan 2003  |  IP: Logged Rich Higgins unknown comic posted July 22, 2003 06:13 PM              Leonard, yes you really did say that! Yosemite Sam is a member of our club and he says" Tell that 'pusilaminous polecat' to bring it on.lol BTW, something you really might be interested in the "World Championship Coyote Calling Contest-tm" has now added a night hunt as an annual event. The day hunt is held the first weekend in Dec. and the night hunt is held the first weekend in Feb. Sound interesting? IP: Logged WhiteMtnCur Knows what it's all about Member # 5 posted July 22, 2003 06:40 PM                       Rich, want to tell us a little more about this night hunt? What state is it going to be in? Who's putting the hunt together? Etc. Thanks. Posts: 97 | From: Nevada | Registered: Jan 2003  |  IP: Logged

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