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Posted by Kokopelli (Member # 633) on August 03, 2025, 11:26 AM:
I'm seeing where Australia's gun confiscation worked so well
stopping crime by disarming honest citizens that now they need to confiscate machetes.
What'll be next ??? ............... Steak knives and decorative landscaping rocks ???? Walking sticks gotta go, too.
Funny how if a drunk kills someone, we blame the drunk. If an arsonist kills someone, we blame the arsonist. But if a criminal kills someone with a gun, we blame the gun.
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on August 03, 2025, 03:34 PM:
Sound reasoning, Grasshopper! You should have studied law or the debate society. Who knows? Maybe you did? Did you?
I’ve been out back chopping cacti. That’ll break a sweat, on a hot Sunday afternoon in August. And it did! Always be careful with the stickers, I need not tell the ko ko about that caution. Need I?
Hey I have a specimen you just might have heard of. IT has long spears with savage little fish hooks in rows along both sides. The name is “Desert Spoon” supposedly due to the shape of the stalks at the base? BUT, I see nothing resembling a spoon of any kind?
Anyway, this thing up and sprouted a center stalk at least 15 feet high. It attracted bees for about ten days. Okay, but my question is, will it die, after blooming? Like many so called CENTURY PLANTS? I looked it up on an APP called Picture this. That’s where I got the name Desert Spoon. That’s all the information it gave me. I am just curious if it’s going to die on me? Also, the stalk is almost 3 inches in diameter. So let me know, good or bad.
Good hunting. El Bee
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on August 03, 2025, 04:03 PM:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16hrW8ozZTw
So this is it. I still fail to see the reason for the name? Mexicans make a drink out of it. Mine is a little bigger than the video. I have one in the back that is smaller. Note the bees. I can see how it is related to asparagus. The center stalk looks very much like a giant asparagus spear.
I heard they live for 40 years. still have not found any reference to whether it dies after blooming?
Good hunting. El Bee
edit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IoLcYA_FnZg
this Mexican says do it like this and not like this? Both look the same to me? My Desert Spoon is bigger than his, stalk is taller and bigger in diameter. But I have another one in the back that is smaller. I guess it depends on conditions and each plant is different. I guess? But, does it die? IDK?
[ August 03, 2025, 04:16 PM: Message edited by: Leonard ]
Posted by Kokopelli (Member # 633) on August 03, 2025, 07:33 PM:
Desert Sotol is polycarpic and will bloom several times over it's lifetime. Not sure where the 'spoon' part is.
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on August 04, 2025, 01:45 PM:
YES YES YES! I also am confused about the name Desert Spoon?
I figured you would know about making some kind of alchoholic drink out of this plant! It’s not native to SoCal but known in northern Mexico, south New Mexico, southern AZ and parts of western Texas. It does quite well here in SoCal. Mine is considerably larger than the examples I have seen on videos, also, mine looks a lot healthier, it’s not dried out at all, I’d call it quite “green” in appearance.
So anyway, your information is that it blooms MORE than once. Do I cut the asparagus spear, or will it dry out and fall off by itself? This particular plant is probably less than 10 years old, they live 40 years apparently? My concern is and was that it would die, once bloomed. Apparently, not the case? I just have to decide if I want to cut the spear or let it go and see what happens?
Thanks for the help, Dude!
Good hunting. El Bee
Posted by Kokopelli (Member # 633) on August 04, 2025, 03:47 PM:
I would let it do it's own thing until you know it's time is past.
Some of those stalks from various desert plants are useful for walking sticks or other craft projects.
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on August 05, 2025, 05:53 PM:
I have a stalk standing in a corner, don’t remember what it’s from? But, it’s really light and stiff, probably 10 ft long and just looks useful/ Could have tossed it years ago but? It’s very light and stiff, I could whack somebody with it and positive it would hurt. Now, I’m sitting here wondering what it came from? I’ve got a damned cottage industry going with walking sticks leaning against furniture all over the house. I have managed to give away all my Sahuaro canes except for one. It is disappointing that nobody asks what my natural canes are made of. But they are all “exotic” as far as my opinion is concerned. Mesquite, Palo Verde, Ironwood, several Ironwood! It’s interesting what old farts focus on. But, it’s mostly harmless.
Good hunting. El Bee
Posted by NVWalt (Member # 375) on August 09, 2025, 01:43 AM:
But, it’s mostly harmless.???
You watch Leonard....Your canes will be next on the list of deadly weapons and then what?
We got this cudzoo vine. These ungodly vines that overtake everything in its path. They wrap around everything but in the smaller trees they leave spiral indentations all up and down the length of the trunk and kill the tree eventually. They make some interesting canes when you find a suitable length of trunk. A good whacking stick if I say so myself. Soon to be banned I'm sure.
Posted by Kokopelli (Member # 633) on August 09, 2025, 07:08 AM:
No doubt the day will come when one needs a medical handicap card / permit to possess a cane or walking stick in Gov. Greaseball's state.
Posted by Az-Hunter (Member # 17) on August 09, 2025, 10:34 AM:
I could be wrong...wouldn't be the first time, but I believe the base of the leaves, where they attach to the stalk, are the part that is referred to as the "spoon"?
When they are dry and can be pulled off, or slough off on their own, the do resemble a ladle or spoon as it were.
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on August 09, 2025, 01:32 PM:
Yes, I think that’s probably correct. And they indicate pretty accurately the part that is the spoon.
My problem is that these long narrow ribbon blades, for lack of a better term; they are edged with these vicious “hooks” along both edges. They will rip any hand, hard working calloused or never did a days work in your life; you are going to get ripped,painfully by these little hooks.
THEREFORE; this plant that I bought at a nursery maybe 10 years ago and rather than let the blades age and droop and cover the ground; I cut them close to the trunk, and consequently, never strip them from the body of the trunk and I surmise, at that point, I would see the spoon part….which I leave attached to the trunk! therefore, I do not know if it is shaped like or resembles a “desert spoon”.
Even though you would be pulling downward towards the ground, but with bare hands, you are going to be badly cut, unless you are wearing welders gloves; and then it’s slippery and still unadvised. it’s better for appearance to snip each blade as it begins to droop.
It’s just like cutting fronds on my Sagos. Why let them droop and lay flat against the trunk? No, you prune them as they begin to droop, that’s what I have done for 50 years on Sagos and anything else that needs it. I have my original Sago that I bought for $5 in a 1 gallon pot. That Sago is 7 ft tall and is the donor plant for 20 others. I just break off the “pine cone” growing on the trunk and replant it. Some are 4-5 ft tall, some are 8-10 inches. It’s just a hobby, ya know? I do the same thing with my Plumarias, some are 15 foot trees and some are in 25 gallon pots. Some are in gallon pots. It keeps me busy.
Good hunting. El Bee
Posted by Dan (Member # 4563) on September 05, 2025, 09:10 PM:
When they are done outlawing they will start enslaving.
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on September 06, 2025, 06:03 PM:
Well, if stupid misguided people keep voting for Democrats, I can see something like that happening. Hitler was ELECTED, by the way.
Good hunting. El Bee
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