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Posted by Crow Woman (Member # 157) on March 23, 2025, 02:46 AM:

Hope everyone is well!

Posted by Kokopelli (Member # 633) on March 23, 2025, 07:30 AM:

Went to an archery shoot yesterday. Shot many arrows. Everything hurts.
All is well !!!

[Cool]

Posted by TA17Rem (Member # 794) on March 23, 2025, 10:29 AM:

???? Was you the target Koko???

Posted by Kokopelli (Member # 633) on March 23, 2025, 11:37 AM:

If I was the target I wouldn't have been shooting arrows. I would have been using my .380 and shooting back.
3-D foam animal targets all at different distances.
Good times. [Smile]

Posted by TA17Rem (Member # 794) on March 23, 2025, 12:58 PM:

didn't realize shooting a bow was so hard on a guy. Hope you get all healed up in no time.

Posted by Kokopelli (Member # 633) on March 23, 2025, 02:17 PM:

60# recurve hunting bow that I use for a target bow, holding and aiming, then releasing.
Perfecting form is an ongoing process with great rewards both physical and mental. (And every once in a while I slay some tasty beast [Smile]

)

Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on March 23, 2025, 07:44 PM:

Kinda like bow hunting: Kyacking is so hard on the shoulders and upper arms. All day is bad enough but the next day is absolute murder!

Good hunting. El Bee

Edit: this initial post is how Lance should have started his comments. What he did was pretty chicken shit, if you ask me. And the title of his post I’m still trying to figure out the relevance?

[ March 23, 2025, 07:47 PM: Message edited by: Leonard ]

Posted by Crow Woman (Member # 157) on March 23, 2025, 09:01 PM:

It sure is good to see everyone! I have had my Azz down flat for about 4 weeks with a sinus infection… but happy to say… I am back in the saddle again!!! Hahaha The weather is finally breaking and I hope to get some calling time in now. Finally felt well enough and went and switched chips in my game cameras and got over 6 thousand pics of cool activity up back. Out of the three cameras I have, one got taken down from a bear! I did however get a nice last pic of his dental work before he spit it out on the ground!!! Lmao We still are down to just 1 coyote. No new ones have moved back in yet. The red fox have multiplied along with the greys too. The count on the Bobcat hasn’t changed. The Fisher hasn’t been on camera since last summer. I do hear him from time to time over on the neighbors. Well, that is the news from the Funny Farm!

Posted by TA17Rem (Member # 794) on March 24, 2025, 07:37 AM:

Id say the reds have always been there just expanding little since coyote numbers are down. Put cameras closer to town or farm sites and you see more of them.

When i use to duck hunt i would paddle my kayak around the lake i hunted on a few hours before dark and find lost decoys up along the shoreline. No one ever bothered to find their lost decoys just go to store and buy more.

[ March 24, 2025, 07:40 AM: Message edited by: TA17Rem ]

Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on March 24, 2025, 08:26 AM:

You know, my daughter flew down to be with me concerning my procedure.

She stayed upstairs and said there was a helacious fight down the block. She said, there were 7 coyotes, at least attacking some poor creature. I didn’t hear it at all, but it’s quite common for at least a pair of coyotes to leave the quarry and go on CAT PATROL. We have rock quarries on both sides of the Upland city limits. It is a natural highway for all kinds of critters, they can get as far as I-10 which is maybe a mile, or 1.5miles south of me.

The thing is, this is a suburban city of 77,000 than used to be orange groves 50 years ago. I will have been here 50 years next January 1, NEW YEARS. My point is that the city of Upland is completely built out. There is literally, no open land in Upland, therefore, all property has increased in value.

What I mean is that it is a bit strange that we have wall to wall suburbia and still the coyotes are attracted, mainly to ambush house cats that prowl at night. It’s quite organized, a pair will work front yards, one on each side of the street. When they flush a cat, it will run across the street and the other coyote will pounce on it, it’s like a deer drive. They have been known to snatch small dogs in broad daylight and run off trailing the leash behind them. The people across the street found the head of their cat a block away. Some times the coyotes will sleep in the front shrubs. I have seen them making a beeline to the quarry to the west, (in the middle of the day) where there is also a general aviation airport. It’s about half a mile away.

So, we actually do have a coyote problem and the city is disinclined to do anything about it. Except to advise residents NOT TO FEED THE COYOTES! Believe it or not, some people do. I know an Indian family, you know, from India, that puts out food specifically for the poor coyotes! El Bee

[ March 24, 2025, 08:30 AM: Message edited by: Leonard ]

Posted by TA17Rem (Member # 794) on March 24, 2025, 09:00 AM:

My niece lived by one of navel bases there in cali and she said they see coyotes all the time running around at night in front of headlights.

Posted by Crow Woman (Member # 157) on March 24, 2025, 09:16 AM:

Hey there Tim, I am a Dairy Farmer’s Wife and these 3… well 2 now camera’s are set up in high traffic area as far as game goes. We have 225 acres here. Quite a few years ago the neighbors allowed a trapper to come in here and he wiped out the red fox population. The coyotes became the Boss Bitches of the well stocked food source such as, turkey. Pheasants, grouse, barn cats, you name it, we had it. So when I say it has been years that we have seen red fox, I mean it. Now that , for now anyway, we are down to 1 coyote, I do believe that the red fox have gotten comfortable to come back. I know this will not last long though. I give it until September when the cast out young pups have to start finding a new group to join or make their own mark. And with the food source we have, they will open up the diner… lol

Hey ElBee… rumor has it that there just might be a republican Govenor for CA! So there just might be some hope for that state yet! I have watched a pair of coyotes so many times! It is still fascinating One will be about 20-25 feet just outside of the wood line in the fields coming slowly and barking. Then the other will be just inside the woods kind of zig zagging and barking. When one of them jump game then the other will swing into action to take it down! Fascinating! And we always know when the coyotes are heavy on the farm is when our barn cats start disappearing for sure.

Posted by TA17Rem (Member # 794) on March 24, 2025, 03:40 PM:

Your farm is big enough to hold one breeding pair of red fox. Red fox like coyotes are terr. but only keep about 1 square mile give or take. Trappers can knock numbers down but need the run of all the land in given area or they just don't get them all. foxes travel route can be a game trail or something as simple as walking down the road and up into you yard. A nice den up on some high ground or just a simple culvert under the road or driveway or under a old car back in the farm grove..

Posted by Crow Woman (Member # 157) on March 24, 2025, 04:43 PM:

We have an old truck bed box up on the hill amongst the seasonal machinery. My husband was up there the other week and found a recently dead red fox laying outside of the box. We figured they were/are denning underneath it.

The trapper put his traps all around our farm on other peoples property when he started trapping. He knew what he was doing for sure back then. We went about 10 years after that before we even got a glimpse of a red one. Since this past fall though, they started showing up more and more.

Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on March 24, 2025, 06:48 PM:

I can absolutely verify the big populations of coyotes in Southern California: in airports! I mentioned previously that we have common sightings of coyotes all over Upland, and one reason is the rock quarries along both boundaries, running generally north to south. The quarries are on the east and west borders.

But, also, we have a general aviation airport on the west side of Upland. So, here’s the deal. We have a lot of coyotes here and nobody is surprised, and probably everybody has seen coyotes occasionally or even frequently. Just for the hell of it I once went to a likely spot over to the east border, walked to a gulley and called in a coyote . I don’t think it took me even ten minutes. The interesting thing about that deal was that the coyote stopped in his approach, at less that 100 yards and started looking straight up at the Cessna that was overhead. I assume it was just curiosity because we have a lot of planes around here.

We have a lot of coyotes. I had to hire a lawyer to represent me several years ago because me and my partner killed a couple coyotes in San Dimas, about ten miles away, and with Brackett Field another airport in town, within the city borders. We beat the case, also but the lawyer fees were $800 split 2 ways. Over 20 years ago, I think this is the first time I have mentioned it? Of course they also have Bonelli Park and the Los Angeles County Fairgrounds right next door. We found 6 dog skulls in that canyon that morning. LONG STORY

Good hunting. El Bee

[ March 25, 2025, 09:19 AM: Message edited by: Leonard ]

Posted by Kokopelli (Member # 633) on March 24, 2025, 07:29 PM:

Over here, the coyotes just discretely run the railroad tracks thru town. No shortage of goodies nearby. With the ongoing drought we have, there are more quail & rabbits in the urbane areas than out in the desert. Plus pet food, cats & small dogs & water dishes. AND, the average urbane dwelling dim-wit couldn't tell a coyote from a half grown German Shepard.

If I wasn't sore enough on Sunday, I can't wait until tomorrow. Spent the day on Roosevelt bowfishing for carp. Too early for the spawn but got in a good workout in the canoe. I have a five foot long paddle that I use to paddle while standing up and a kayak paddle that I use when sitting down. The kayak paddle works great in the canoe, far and away better than a single paddle but it's Hell on the abdominal muscles. Pass the Mead !!!

Crow Woman; The suggestion has been made that if you decide to equate the Kyudo movements in that book to a rifle, that (1) It could really be something of beauty and (2) That you start off with something like a Red Ryder BB gun until you perfect the moves.

I'm sunburnt, too. I don't normally sunburn. More Mead !!!

Posted by Crow Woman (Member # 157) on March 25, 2025, 06:53 AM:

ElBee… would love yo hear that court story sometime! Further news on the republican putting his hat in the Governor ring is Mel Gibson! I think that could get very interesting. Now where did ya’ll find the news on Jennifer Aniston and Barack!!! Lolol Juicy!!!

KoKo… Great advice. I don’t have a BB gun so I think I will practice with my camera tripod first, then change over to my gun tripod then my actual gun. That should be, as far as weight wise and gun length, comparable. I look forward to these lessons. Thank You!!!

Well as of 7:39 this morning while my husband was finishing up milking, just happened to glance out the back door of the barn. He grabbed his gun and took down what could be the last coyote(for now possibly). I will be curious to see what the game pics have to say on this matter this sunday. He said it looks like his front paw was caught in a trap recently. I will keep you posted!

Posted by TA17Rem (Member # 794) on March 25, 2025, 07:48 AM:

what you trying to accomplish with tri-pod??

Posted by Kokopelli (Member # 633) on March 25, 2025, 09:29 AM:

She would use it in lieu of the rifle to practice the Kyudo movements.

Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on March 25, 2025, 10:07 AM:

I did not know that Crow Woman was a married lady? She was not, the last time I saw her? Of course, many things have happened since that time.

Yes, we were doing a favor to a fella that had his dog snatched, he lived close to two freeways and the homes were built around the edges of a canyon, which was excellent coyote cover, and I do mean COVER. We killed 2 coyotes even before adequate shooting light. Recovered one and were searching for the other when we looked downhill behind us and saw a cop working his way into the canyon. Yikes!

So, we went up and over the top through a retirement facility turned the corner and found out there was a squad car parked on the street next to where my buddies truck was parked, in his friend’s driveway. So, we had a discussion. I said; let’s take my car, parked on the street and go get breakfast, wait for things to cool down, then get his truck and get the hell out of town.

My partner said: Let’s just go down there and tell them what we were doing and clear things up. So, I lost the “argument” and we walked down to where another deputy was scanning the canyon with binoculars. As he looked over his shoulder at us, we said, you are probably looking for us! He got on the radio and a minute later, another deputy was dragging the coyote we had not found. That’s basically it, after exchanging driver’s license, we left and got breakfast.

But, we had admitted shooting and they took two rifles and an empty cartridge case, from the floor of my buddies work truck. I forgot to mention that we went back to the truck and removed our camo before climbing down into the canyon to search for dead coyotes.

Of course, we did not know that there was a cop, on some kind of stress disability from some local agency, and he had got up when he heard 2 shots and looked over his back fence and down into the canyon. Of course, all cops have some degree of paranoia and this guy assumed those shots were aimed at him.

Anyway, I had connections in the sheriff’s through my brother in law, and he told me, you guys might want to hire a lawyer.

So, we did, most everything was dismissed and we got the guns back, which pissed off the Walnut sheriff’s office; a lot! Neither of us had any kind of record and the case was; what’s the word when you do not dispute the charge; is it nolo contendre? All we were out was the lawyer fees. But we had discharged a firearm within city limits. As a public service. As I said, we found 6 small dog skulls just while walking around right at sun rise. So, that’s the story, now public and I still have not gotten even a traffic ticket. OH YEAH, I did get a chicken shit speeding ticket from a squaw, but that was also dismissed.

Good hunting. El Bee

[ March 25, 2025, 10:10 AM: Message edited by: Leonard ]

Posted by TA17Rem (Member # 794) on March 25, 2025, 02:04 PM:

quote:
Kyudo movements.

Ok I'll bite. WTF is that??

Posted by Crow Woman (Member # 157) on March 25, 2025, 05:40 PM:

Lol Tim… Kyudo in my eyes is kind of like Yoga for Bow and Rifle Shooters. Training the body and mind to be more aware of your shooting more repititiously and accurate each and every time. I am definately looking forward to starting this. King Arthur has made an evil mess of my body over the last 3 years and I noticed my upper body strength has gone to sh*t and effects my shooting. So starting out with a camera tripod which is lightweight and I can adjust it to gun length will be a good starting point. Then by changing up to my gun tripod with a bit more girth and weight will be good for a bit. Then the final step with an actual rifle and add in actual shooting with target.

WOW ElBee… Thanks for that story! Glad it worked out for you two but man, the bureaucracy BS is ridiculous!!! I could never live in that state again.

Let me share a story now… lol. When I attended the campout, I was freshly divorced. When I got back home to my own home My ex husband and I went on a date. We were working on ourselves. We both had issues with ourselves along with each other. Then before we knew it, He would come down to my house and spend the night or I would come up to the farm and spend the weekend from time to time. After doing this for about 3 years we decided that I would sell my house and move back into the farm. Over those 5 years we learned a lot. Communication, laughter, don’t take each other for granted and just because a guy calls me DOES NOT MEAN I want the man on the phone, it simply means that someone wants to talk about coyote hunting or book a show. That was a big one with him to deal with. Anyway, fast forward to 2 1/2 years ago, we realized that we have a lot of assets here between us. So 30 years later from our actual wedding day at the exact time of morning, we remarried. Then we got our Wills done and our names together on everything. Life is too. We don’t know which one will go first but we are all set for anything to happen. Our Love has survived so much but in the end, we both know we are each others Forever! I would be lost without him! This October 17th will mark 33 years.

Ok… back to hunting… lol

Posted by Kokopelli (Member # 633) on March 25, 2025, 05:51 PM:

Now, THAT'S incredible !!!!! [Smile]

Posted by Kokopelli (Member # 633) on March 25, 2025, 06:22 PM:

Tim; ........... Google 'kyudo' and check out the uTube video's.

Posted by TA17Rem (Member # 794) on March 26, 2025, 06:06 AM:

Ok its Japanese archery. So, what's that got to do with guns and bipods??

Posted by Crow Woman (Member # 157) on March 26, 2025, 07:06 AM:

Tim, For me personally… It will build strength, control, accuracy and zen in regards to no matter how fast of a decision I have to make, with my base core… I will feel confident to take the shot. The tripods will slowly build up muscles while practicing movements. That is something I really need at the moment. Some of my rifles have gotten too heavy to bring up and hold steady which is a problem. My breathing is all over the place which is bad as well. Even though I am not an archer, all of these movements and steps can be translated to a rifle situation. This is the best way I can try to explain it. Hope it helps clear up things.

Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on March 26, 2025, 08:17 AM:

Like Karma?

Edit: or like a poker tournament!

[ March 26, 2025, 08:19 AM: Message edited by: Leonard ]

Posted by TA17Rem (Member # 794) on March 26, 2025, 02:35 PM:

fill two milk buckets up with water and carry both from one end of barn to other end then lift them up and set on a table. Repete every day for month before hunting season.
I have two tri-pods i use for night calling with a thermal both have the death grip for holding rifle. Out to 200 yards they ok for accuracy if you have to stand.
Set tri-pod up so the leg with the pad around it is on your free hand side, this will remind you of direction you set up to face so if at night you need to do a scan you work your way around 360 and the pad reminds you of where you started. You need to memorize where the legs are so you can walk 360 without bumping them or falling over. Practice with eyes closed as you want to keep eye looking through scope and on the approaching target.

Day time stand just toss the tripod you have better choices like set of shooting sticks to hold rifle and sit on your ass or use a chair. For chair the old aluminum lawn chairs with the plastic webbing and arm rests come to mind. Think strong but light as you will have to carry them.
Breathing and trigger control most important along with steady aim, relax and don't get excited. Place the "Zen" book on ground and sit on it if ground is wet when you out calling.
Best and most accurate shooting position is prone if area allows, next is sitting using shooting sticks or a fold down bipod with elbows locked on your knees, after that anything else is a toss up. Good luck.

[ March 26, 2025, 02:36 PM: Message edited by: TA17Rem ]

Posted by Kokopelli (Member # 633) on March 26, 2025, 02:35 PM:

No ........... Karma is God & The Devil taking turns fuking with you.
Zen Kyudo is spirit, body & bow (or rifle) as one.

Posted by TA17Rem (Member # 794) on March 27, 2025, 07:07 AM:

I remember a vid. of a Kungfu Zen fighter who could knock out his attacker by just a touch of his hand or by force of just air. Then a MMA fighter or another Kungfu artist challenged him and kicked the crap out of the old guy proving him to be all fake.

Posted by Kokopelli (Member # 633) on March 27, 2025, 01:55 PM:

Well ........... If you saw it on YouTube it must be true. [Eek!]

Seriously, I keep a salt shaker near the 'puter screen so I can take some of those videos with a grain of salt (or two).
There are some excellent videos on there.
There are some good entertaining videos on there.
And sadly,
There is some crap on there that frightens me to even think that someone might try it themselves.

Posted by TA17Rem (Member # 794) on March 27, 2025, 03:53 PM:

Like said this Zen guy was making claims of his zen talent and showed clip's or demonstrations of what he could do which were all rigged. A fighter called him on it and challenged him to match and the true fighter stomped his ass proving the zen guy was all b.s. Zen just reminds me of star wars "go with the force Luke"

As for shooting just practice getting brain, eyes and trigger finger working together and breathing and be repetitive. practice practice and practice

Posted by Kokopelli (Member # 633) on March 28, 2025, 05:07 AM:

The Force is real.

Now ............ Off to Cabela's to burn points and then to the Outdoor Expo at Ben Avery. Plus we get to visit with some friends at SunCity West. [Smile]

Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on March 28, 2025, 07:42 AM:

Tim, I understand all of your explanations, but. What it reinforces, for me is the fact that successful night hunting is done with a partner.

What you need is one guy ready with his scopped rifle and another guy scanning with his thermal binoculars. That’s the answer. That’s what the military does.

Good hunting. El Bee

Posted by TA17Rem (Member # 794) on March 28, 2025, 01:44 PM:

Sure partner can be cool but here if two guys on stand both looking through their own scope.
Since i use a tri-pod and im standing then i just rotate 360, pretty open here so i can do that.

Coyotes either come straight in or at 3;00 or 9:00 position.

Once in a while get a pair coming out of field from behind so just swing around and get ready.

As for military the second guy is the spotter, mainly for your shots along with range measuring and what correction is needed. But not shooting long range here so the job is vacant.

[ March 28, 2025, 01:47 PM: Message edited by: TA17Rem ]

Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on March 28, 2025, 05:10 PM:

I’ll write slower and USE CAPS!

In my concept of night hunting, The guy with the light, (or another man with Thermal BINOCULARS, he’s the one doing the hunting, he’s not a spotter. Predator hunters don’t, or shouldn’t need a spotter.
Once he spots an animal coming in, he ALERTS THE SHOOTER. At that point, the guy on the gun can prepare, and take his time, if he has it, to sent up and shoot the animal the first time he stops.

That’s been my procedure for 50 years, whether it’s visible light, NV or THermal….which I haven’t used, I admit. But, I can see the application just fine.

Good hunting. El Bee

Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on March 28, 2025, 05:32 PM:

And, another thing. I really prefer hunting with a partner. We drive vast distances, somebody to talk to, share the gas, etc. also we get way back, and there could be breakdowns, someone to push while I steer.

I know there are those that are like alone in the wilderness, I get that. I don’t like it, personally, but I understand the type. However, having somebody along can really be a plus, especially at our age. You could have another stroke, or break a couple legs falling down a hill; if there were hills in Minnesota. But I don’t think so because they build ski jumps. And like an idiot, I rode my sled down one, once. Yes, just once. I might be stupid, but I’m not suicidal. I mean the slope off of the actual wood ski jump, I didn’t launch myself in the air.

Good hunting. El Bee

[ March 28, 2025, 05:35 PM: Message edited by: Leonard ]

Posted by TA17Rem (Member # 794) on March 29, 2025, 08:05 AM:

LOL. Leonard.
I don't ski but know we have like 5-6 places you can ski down a big hill. (Ski-resorts)

The thing here is you can be driving on the prairie (flat ground) and after five miles or so the lay of the land will change. We have buffalo ridge that starts at S.D. border and works it way S-E in the state, I'm at the tail end of it. We also have deep drainage's where water dumps into the Minnesota river or Mississippi. We also have the glacier trail that runs down through the state, valleys and big ridges. S-W Minn. is rolling hills like you find in S.D. and as you go East then you up on the prairie and then back down into river drainages.
Southern half of state mostly agg. land and northern half forests, so we have a little bit of every thing just no big rocky mountains.

Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on March 30, 2025, 12:33 PM:

What I saw of the Minnesota river, it was more like swamp? One time, as stupid kids will occasionally do, we had been trying to fish, but got this brilliant idea to set the grass on fire! Gulp! And it started blazing, we started swinging the rods at the grass trying to knock it down. And, eventually we got it stomped out, but it was nip and tuck for a while.

The only casualty was the top eyelet of my dad’s best rod. I played dumb but it didn’t help. Fuck that Minnesota river, we never went down there any more. Full of suckers and sheepshead, white people don’t eat’em.

Good hunting. El Bee

Posted by TA17Rem (Member # 794) on March 30, 2025, 01:52 PM:

I think i know the area of river you are talking about, it's sort of a wet land now, but much of it has changed.

Minnesota river produces walleyes, varis catfish, small mouth bass, northerns, sunfish and bullheads and maybe gar as well. Some dam nice fishing with a bow as well so I think Koko would love that part.

What was name of town you lived in in Minnesota???

Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on March 30, 2025, 02:15 PM:

I lived in south Minneapolis but we were further south I think by Shockapee?

Good hunting. El Bee

Posted by TA17Rem (Member # 794) on March 31, 2025, 09:59 AM:

Shakopee has the Valley fairgrounds now and a casino and I think the horse racetrack is close by as well.

Few large bodies of water but they are parks now or nature preserves.

Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on March 31, 2025, 03:09 PM:

Trust me, members of the Peanut Gallery. Minnesota is full of hayseeds. The sort that will show up at a campout wearing lace up boots to the knee, like you see Canadian lumberjacks wearing, in 1925.

Good hunting. El Bee

Posted by Kokopelli (Member # 633) on March 31, 2025, 03:22 PM:

.............. and most important; a Stormy Krommer !!!!

[Big Grin]

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