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Author Topic: Caw Caw Caw !!!! Kokopelli SENIOR DISCOUNT & Dispenser of Sage Advice Member # 633 posted February 01, 2025 05:01 PM                      -------------------- And lo, the Light of the Trump shown upon the Darkness and the Darkness could not comprehend it. Posts: 8232 | From: Under a wandering star | Registered: Apr 2005  |  IP: Logged Leonard HMFIC Member # 2 posted February 03, 2025 12:43 PM                       Has ko ko's password been compromised? -------------------- EL BEE Knows It All and Done It All. Don't piss me off! Posts: 32366 | From: Upland, CA | Registered: Jan 2003  |  IP: Logged Kokopelli SENIOR DISCOUNT & Dispenser of Sage Advice Member # 633 posted February 03, 2025 02:43 PM                      I hope not. I don't even know the secret handshake, let alone what my password is. I was using 'Esclavo' for a password at work until H/R figured it out. No sense of humor. -------------------- And lo, the Light of the Trump shown upon the Darkness and the Darkness could not comprehend it. Posts: 8232 | From: Under a wandering star | Registered: Apr 2005  |  IP: Logged Crow Woman Knows what it's all about Member # 157 posted February 03, 2025 06:26 PM                    Alright already Koko… I hear Ya!!! I was away for a couple of days. Calm your tail feathers down! -------------------- Sheri L Baity Lord, Please give me peace, because if you give me strength, I might beat someone to death! Posts: 720 | From: Covington | Registered: Mar 2003  |  IP: Logged Kokopelli SENIOR DISCOUNT & Dispenser of Sage Advice Member # 633 posted February 03, 2025 08:22 PM                      I'm assuming that the crows approved of the poetry ??? I'll put that call to good use. THanx !!!! -------------------- And lo, the Light of the Trump shown upon the Darkness and the Darkness could not comprehend it. Posts: 8232 | From: Under a wandering star | Registered: Apr 2005  |  IP: Logged Crow Woman Knows what it's all about Member # 157 posted February 03, 2025 08:40 PM                    Yes, Indeed they did!!! Enjoy! -------------------- Sheri L Baity Lord, Please give me peace, because if you give me strength, I might beat someone to death! Posts: 720 | From: Covington | Registered: Mar 2003  |  IP: Logged Kokopelli SENIOR DISCOUNT & Dispenser of Sage Advice Member # 633 posted February 04, 2025 08:30 AM                      Now, if I could figure out where the Peterson's magazine subscription came from ???? -------------------- And lo, the Light of the Trump shown upon the Darkness and the Darkness could not comprehend it. Posts: 8232 | From: Under a wandering star | Registered: Apr 2005  |  IP: Logged Leonard HMFIC Member # 2 posted February 04, 2025 03:33 PM                       Gift from El Bee -------------------- EL BEE Knows It All and Done It All. Don't piss me off! Posts: 32366 | From: Upland, CA | Registered: Jan 2003  |  IP: Logged Kokopelli SENIOR DISCOUNT & Dispenser of Sage Advice Member # 633 posted February 04, 2025 06:06 PM                      Well, THANK YOU !!!! But if you think the 50s magazines are cool, wait 'til you see a couple from the 30s. Writers whose names we revere. Will try to get to town tomorrow & send. -------------------- And lo, the Light of the Trump shown upon the Darkness and the Darkness could not comprehend it. Posts: 8232 | From: Under a wandering star | Registered: Apr 2005  |  IP: Logged TA17Rem Hello, I'm the legendary Tim Anderson, Southern Minneesota Know it all Member # 794 posted February 06, 2025 11:34 AM                    Question for Koko. Hunt& stalk? I assume you done it with a bow so question is how many coyotes you have hunt stalked with a bow and how did you do? Also for peanut gallery in other parts of country same question? [ February 06, 2025, 11:37 AM: Message edited by: TA17Rem ] -------------------- What if I told you, the left wing and right wing both belong to same bird! Posts: 5618 | From: S.D. | Registered: Jan 2006  |  IP: Logged Kokopelli SENIOR DISCOUNT & Dispenser of Sage Advice Member # 633 posted February 06, 2025 02:17 PM                      I've taken exactly one coyote while still hunting. It was in Colorado during an elk hunt. We had stopped to bugle a meadow (park?) and I looked over my partner's shoulder and a coyote was just sitting on the hillside oblivious to us. Clipped it thru the neck with a Wasp 4 blade and the blood trail was a foot & a half wide for about 50 yards down the hill. Last year I was working down a ridge back to the truck when a coyote stepped out on the ridge 180 yards below me. It didn't know for sure what I was and I launched three shots with the recurve, the last one coming pretty close and spooking it. Hopeless but had to try. -------------------- And lo, the Light of the Trump shown upon the Darkness and the Darkness could not comprehend it. Posts: 8232 | From: Under a wandering star | Registered: Apr 2005  |  IP: Logged TA17Rem Hello, I'm the legendary Tim Anderson, Southern Minneesota Know it all Member # 794 posted February 06, 2025 02:52 PM                    but you actually never spot and stalked one just shot when one popped up someplace?? and why you are taking 180 yard shot with a bow? that's unethical. -------------------- What if I told you, the left wing and right wing both belong to same bird! Posts: 5618 | From: S.D. | Registered: Jan 2006  |  IP: Logged Leonard HMFIC Member # 2 posted February 06, 2025 03:01 PM                       We were on the res, one time. Pulled into a wash, kind of particular to that part of the country where vegetation grows in scattered places where the rain washes in ribbons of mesquite and squashes, every quarter mile or so. It’s like bone dry open sand and then these ribbons of brush and some of them are enough to drive in and provide shade and concealment and we just crashed, mid day, when nothing is moving. I was in the back of the camper with a hatch for night hunting and it was open for ventilation. Trying to sleep but it’s more like resting, you can’t sleep in that heat. So, I heard a coyote yipping and scolding and it sounded like right outside the back door of the camper. So, I stood up in the hatch and there was a big dog coyote that had walked about ten feet behind the tracks we had made driving into the brush. The coyote was scratching with his back legs, and kicking sand back in the direction of the truck. So, I bent down and picked up a rifle that was in a side rack and brought it up on top. He still had not turned around so I squeeked him and he casually turned his head and I shot him. He seemed pretty tame and Indians never bother them so they only have to dodge a rock now and then. He had been scratching right below the bumper so maybe he knew we were in there, IDK? It was one of the easiest and unearned dead coyotes ever, but I never look a gift horse in the mouth. Well, there was the time I ran down a coyote who was trotting down the center double line and I ate him up….thump, thump; in a VeDub, yet! That’s all I got, not much skill involved. Good hunting. El Bee -------------------- EL BEE Knows It All and Done It All. Don't piss me off! Posts: 32366 | From: Upland, CA | Registered: Jan 2003  |  IP: Logged Kokopelli SENIOR DISCOUNT & Dispenser of Sage Advice Member # 633 posted February 06, 2025 04:42 PM                      Correct; Taking a coyote by spot & stalk with a recurve would be a worthy trophy. 180 yards is unethical ?? Would you please tell me then, what do you consider 'sure kill' distance with a bow ??? I ask because I've seen coyotes do some pretty amazing footwork at close range. Soapbox rant to follow; Where ethics come into play, rifle, shottie, pistol or pointed stick is when you take the shot YOU OWN THE SHOT. You confirm the hit or miss by walking over and looking until you KNOW one way or another. None of this "Well, he ran off so I must have missed" crap. When you have a hit, you own that hit until the bitter end. Sometimes it just ain't pretty regardless of the distance of the shot. And here's a factoid; I've had far more animals jump my string at close 'ethical' ranges than they have out a bit farther...... and yes, I shoot a quiet set-up. Bottom line; If one is not willing to spend whatever time and tracking skills needed after a shot, then the shot shouldn't be taken in the first place. THAT'S ethical ...... Not a distance someone imposes on others. 'Nuff Said. -------------------- And lo, the Light of the Trump shown upon the Darkness and the Darkness could not comprehend it. Posts: 8232 | From: Under a wandering star | Registered: Apr 2005  |  IP: Logged TA17Rem Hello, I'm the legendary Tim Anderson, Southern Minneesota Know it all Member # 794 posted February 06, 2025 09:38 PM                    distance for a bow? far as you like long as arrow either goes halfway through or passes through. also don't see much accuracy with arrow past 60 yards dont care who pulled the string. I just brought that up since some like to trash us long range shooters. relax. But on the note above same for a rifle on how far, if accuracy is there and bullet either passes through or dumps all energy inside then fair enough. Hunt & Stalk= hunters spots his game feeding or bedded down, hunter walks in for best shot he can get to make clean kill. Hunt and Stalk was pretty common here before calling took over on coyotes and red fox. The thing with spotting and stalking coyotes is one key ingredient " snow". Even if you spot one in open field with no snow its pretty tuff to stalk it if you can't keep eye on it all the time. What brought this up was some Pro-staffer made a claim he kills many coyotes with just a bow using hunt and stalk methods. whats funny about it is he lives nowhere there is snow or much for open ground. In my entire life have only had one coyote under 40 yards, it just don't happen very often when walking on snow and don't care who you are. for avr. or normal distance its been 100-200 yards. the shittier the weather the closer you can sneak up on one. and that type of weather not much good for flinging a arrow. Been there as far as stalking deer goes. -------------------- What if I told you, the left wing and right wing both belong to same bird! Posts: 5618 | From: S.D. | Registered: Jan 2006  |  IP: Logged Kokopelli SENIOR DISCOUNT & Dispenser of Sage Advice Member # 633 posted February 07, 2025 01:32 AM                      I belong to archery clubs in Globe and Tucson. We have shooters in both with compound bows, sights & releases that can hit a paper plate all day long at 100 yards. Impressive skills. Me, I went back to Traditional Class. Recurve, fingers & no sight. It's a personal choice. Your Pro Staffer sounds like a heck of a coyote hunter. Spot & stalk deer would be simple by comparison. Wild assed guess but the only way that I can think of that would involve 'many kills, spot & stalk with a bow' would be easing up on a rancher's dead pile and catching a coyote feeding. Still a tough act to pull off. I would suggest listening to him very carefully for any tips you could pick up but make sure you have fresh batteries in your bullshit detector. -------------------- And lo, the Light of the Trump shown upon the Darkness and the Darkness could not comprehend it. Posts: 8232 | From: Under a wandering star | Registered: Apr 2005  |  IP: Logged Leonard HMFIC Member # 2 posted February 07, 2025 09:17 AM                       Maybe it’s; who are you trying to impress? There are many little victories. In my opinion, one of the sorriest is shooting anything way out yonder. It’s a trend, these days, beginning with ringing steel and then ambushing some big game at 800/1000 yards. It don’t matter, even though the drop between 800 and 1,000 might be measured in feet. I’m personally against that shit. And I think that their misses and fringe shots are not talked about, with anybody, because they know that it’s shabby. So, everybody probably has some ethical standard. Even if it involves wasting premium ammo. Why are you there? Another thing that alters personal ethics is shooting at a wounded animal. Like, I don’t like to shoot running game, unless I already put a bullet in him. But. Archery is a whole different ball game. Sometimes, you wonder if they actually want to win? That guy I knew that had 21 coyote archery kills was a special case. Either he was hunting in some game preserve or had immortal skills….in front of witnesses. Anyway, I think everything about the long range fad is immoral. All of it, the fast twist barrels and the brand new cartridges, and hybrid bullets. There are no rails, animals run away, or in many cases, they don’t even recognize the threat. And, the fad is promoted in gun mags. I have always thought that 400 yards is my outer limit and I won’t take the shot unless the animal is close to a landmark I can identify once he is down. A standing coyote completely disappears once he is down. And you better have a rifle that shoots flat. The verification of a hit isn’t visual, but if you hear the pop, that’s all you need. Good hunting. El Bee -------------------- EL BEE Knows It All and Done It All. Don't piss me off! Posts: 32366 | From: Upland, CA | Registered: Jan 2003  |  IP: Logged NVWalt Does not claim to be overly bright! Member # 375 posted February 07, 2025 09:52 AM                   Spot and stalk ehhh? On my way to Ogden, Utah one evening I spotted a red fox on the left side of the hiway. That's the spot part. I stalked it at 70 MPH in the ol beatermobile down the hiway.That being my stalk part. He, the fox, crossed in front of me and I figured he was safe and gone. THEN, that stupid fox turned and ran under my right front wheel. Clean kill. And that is my spot and stalk on a predator story. -------------------- A wise woman once said "Fuck this shit!". And lived happily forever after. Posts: 719 | From: Tellico Plains, TN | Registered: Aug 2004  |  IP: Logged TA17Rem Hello, I'm the legendary Tim Anderson, Southern Minneesota Know it all Member # 794 posted February 07, 2025 10:16 AM                    Koko the 100-yard pie plate shooters, can they use the same bow for hunting or is it one of those bows with still rods sticking out all over with counterweights on? are these ranges indoors or outside in the wind? Here in the winter there not many calm days for flinging arrows 100 yards and the only time wind is your friend when stalking coyotes, it helps cover up the noise you make walking over snow. Still tuff to get within 100 yards with a rifle and with a bow it be like one in a million. Me and a buddy would hunt late season deer with a bow, hunt & stalk and not that easy to get a shot as well less you in some sort of heavy cover to get you close enough, plus deer easy to pick out with the naked eye, coyote much harder to see. When after coyotes we drive around sections and go to high spots to look into a section from with spotting scope or Bino's and then plan our stalk according to cover and wind direction. Be tuff to find any coyotes laid out without snow on the ground and as you get closer to a coyote on a sneak you have to crawl at times or just not going get a shot and a shot is from prone position, not kneeling like you would have to do with a bow. Then throw in target size, coyote pretty small when bedded down in a deep snow compared to a deer. I sent you a vid awhile back with a fox i stalked and whistled up, do you think you could of hit that fox with a arrow?? -------------------- What if I told you, the left wing and right wing both belong to same bird! Posts: 5618 | From: S.D. | Registered: Jan 2006  |  IP: Logged Kokopelli SENIOR DISCOUNT & Dispenser of Sage Advice Member # 633 posted February 07, 2025 11:00 AM                      They use the same bow for hunting as they do for 3D shoots. High let-off cams, release, lightweight carbon arrows & mechanical broadheads. Outdoors in at most a light wind. Red Fox would be tough. A kill area about the size of your fist. Better odds with a Grey Fox; they keep coming back even after you shoot at them. -------------------- And lo, the Light of the Trump shown upon the Darkness and the Darkness could not comprehend it. Posts: 8232 | From: Under a wandering star | Registered: Apr 2005  |  IP: Logged

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