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Kokopelli
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posted January 26, 2025 06:54 AM
Just heard something about a big one out in the ocean up by Eureka Calif.
A seven point oh earthquake would be like the Devil biting your ass and shaking hard.
![[Eek!]](eek.gif)
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Kokopelli
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posted January 26, 2025 12:39 PM
Hmmmm ............... Looks like I fell for a 'click-bait'. ![[Frown]](frown.gif)
Bastards.
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Leonard
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posted January 26, 2025 01:36 PM
All forgiven. Tillie is here, boring into my bagel wanting a bite; and she says thank you for the subscription. She can't read but she's willing to look at the pictures.
We had nothing better to do yesterday after shopping at Lowe's. I have a root problem in my sewage system. So, on the way home, decided to take her to the dog park. She has this little "tic" or something where she will put any dog in their place when they do something that I'm not sure about?
She has some kind of personal space that I haven't quite figured out? Some dog will either attempt to put their paws on her or sniff her where she doesn't like and she will get real vocal about it and always get heads side by side and bark an unmistakable warning to KNOCK IT OFF! Most often, the other dog will, say, "sorry; didn't know you were so touchy" and apparently conditions are established and that's the end of it in 90% of the cases. A couple times she has felt like putting another two cents in, but it's a vocal quarrel, and not serious fighting.
I don't really know, but yesterday she did it with 3 other dogs just as soon as we got in the gate, or within 5 or 6 minutes and we were there for close to an hour with no other problems. Still, a couple owners gave me the stink eye.
So, my opinion is that she's just an Alpha and doesn't allow any liberties; whatever they are in dog hierarchy? Yesterday it was a pitbull and a big shaggyhair German shepard that outweighed her by at least 40 pounds. But, they both backed off, like "Wow, I didn't mean it/sorry!"
Actually, it's more common than not. I think she's just saying: leave me alone! Any thoughts?
Good hunting. El Bee
PS she does like people more than dogs, seems like?
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TA17Rem
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posted January 26, 2025 04:07 PM
Need to put Tilly in her place and correct it, i can see it happen around food but just out walking around uncalled for. your job is to fix it or you get a hell of alot more stinks eyes.
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Leonard
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posted January 26, 2025 07:01 PM
Well, fuck! I did my best! I talked to her, told her about my concern. She listened, so hopefully, that should correct it. Stink eye does not faze me. Thanks for the advice, but come to think of it you are a breeder, what is your exact advice? Tell you the truth, in canine world, I'm not convinced she did anything wrong? I talk to people and many, many say that dog park owners in particular are total assholes.
But what do you suggest, beat her ass, or repeat BAD DOG, BAD DOG, BAD DOG! You must be aware of this type of female dog response to unwelcome advances?
Good hunting. El Bee
Tim you sound like you have never seen it as I very carefully describe it?
Good hunting. El Bee
edit: I kinda see it as dogs taking care of social issues?
It's not eye to eye, which I have been told is actual aggression. It's Tillie leaning against the side of the other dogs face and scolding him or her in some cases.
[ January 26, 2025, 07:08 PM: Message edited by: Leonard ]
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Leonard
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posted January 27, 2025 01:39 PM
HEY TIM ANDERSON!
I thought you were a fucking dog breeder and dog trainer?
Have you not ever seen a female dog assert herself against a male bully?
That's all I'm talking about. Some asshole Dog Park people might not recognize the behavior, but what's your excuse?
Apparently, you don't know a hell of a lot? Well, you can always lelarn a few things.
But, you have gaps in your knowledge of dog behavior. I'm surprised!
Good hunting. El Bee
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TA17Rem
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posted January 27, 2025 05:22 PM
sorry Leonard i didn't feel like writing a book on it at the time.
I don't deal alot with your dog issue, maybe due to the different breeds we have.
Um best advice i guess for now is put tilly on a leash at dog park and then introduce her to other dogs one at a time. Hold her leash short and try keep control of Tilly and let another dog sniff her.
If she makes a fuss of it then correct her vocally or stimulate her with a shock collar using vibrate mode or low shock setting and increase if needed.
Other option is keep her on a leash and have her lay down on ground on back in a submissive position and then let another dog approach and do its thing. This may have to be repeated several times till she figures it out.
In a dog park or even in a dog pack there is no top dog, they should all be equal and stop allowing her to be top dog.
You are the top dog as far as she is concerned, and you need to remind her of it.
also, if she starts to growl or have negative reactions with another dog present you need to take hand and give her a good jab in shoulder or side to change her mind set and use a vocal command such as no.
Ok you never taught her proper no command!
Get a piece of chicken or some other kind of meat and place on the floor and have Tilly on a leash for now. when she moves for the meat you say "don't touch" and pull her back on the leash away from it. keep repeating this every day with about 15 minutes of schooling. when you done for the day then you give a command of "take it" and let her have it if she behaved.
she touches that meat without permission then you yank her back on leash and just get her to sit there. Later on if she caught on is put meat on floor and if she goes for it say don't touch and she better stop, if things going good then say take it. if working well then take her off the leash and toss little pieces of meat on floor and if she goes for it say don't touch, you need get that command in her head.
she should also be taught to "stay", sitting or standing, keep in mind not all breeds like to sit like a bird dog, just get her to stay in one spot when given command. can release her from staying by just saying "ok".
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Leonard
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posted January 27, 2025 05:48 PM
I'm not proud of it, but Tillie is totally untrained. She has never fetched a ball yet, talk about missing out on the fetch gene!
She also does not respond to "SIT" or "SHAKE" I never taught her anything, but she's half ass ok on a leash. If she lunges, I yank on it and she gets it.
Good hunting. El Bee
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TA17Rem
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posted January 28, 2025 03:55 AM
Leonard not all breeds meant or bred for fetching a ball or a duck for that matter or sitting on command.
I have big ball in my dog yard, if I toss it dogs just look at it. but if I have more than one dog loose in the pen one will grab the handle on the ball and run with it and others give chase just like they was running a coyote. My dogs don't sit either and not going to bother teaching that either. If i have a dog that's terr. and just plain mean it gets a bullet, not going to give a problem dog to someone else.
My dogs will free-cast/hunt at my command or a arm signal. Don't touch is a command i use often but has many meanings, basically just back off from what they doing. At a bay up i say dogs back when ready to shoot a cornered coyote, they back away and i take the shot then say gettem.
Load up or kennel up are two other commands. No fight with another dog allowed and if I have a stubborn dog it will get a zap from collar or rubber hose across its ass.
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posted January 28, 2025 04:40 AM
Had a 4.2 earthquake yesterday just up over the mountain from us.
Never felt a thing. Other half was gassing up his pickup and he said he never felt it either.
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Kokopelli
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posted January 28, 2025 07:09 AM
4.2 is still fairly mild. When it gets up over 5.0 it starts getting a bit serious.
A lot depends on how deep it is and whether it's a subduction quake or not.
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earthwalker
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posted January 28, 2025 08:18 AM
The big one we had back 2020 was a good shaker. Just about the whole state felt it.
Don't like that ripple effect then the basketball bounce.
I got queasy.
Guess the friend down the road about a mile felt it even had items fall off the shelf. Another friend just to our NW a mile said they felt it.
I usually feel these things. Didn't feel it.
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posted January 28, 2025 08:22 AM
Just looked at the earthquake map.
Had another 3.3 quake by the 4.3 at 0635 this morning.
The first one was 11 mile down and the one this morning was 5 mile down.
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Kokopelli
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posted January 28, 2025 08:32 AM
Another thing that effects how the quake is felt is what kind of ground you're on. Sandy soil is bad. Bedrock is good.
The quakes are possibly a sign of the end times and a good reason to buy some new toy that you want while you still can. ![[Smile]](smile.gif)
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Leonard
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posted January 28, 2025 02:31 PM
That's true, ko ko. They had an earthquake off the coast of Mexico from Acapulco, I don't remember the intensity, wild ass guess: 6.0?
But, in Acapulco, minor, stuff fell off of the shelves.
I think Mexico City is a good distance inland, 80/100miles off the coast. But, Mexico City is built on an ancient swamp, 500 years ago canals and lush gardens, etc. They have improved the whole area, but still underneath, iit's still like a muddy soup. And, it shook like a bowl full of jello! Hi rise buildings fell down, I don't remember how many people were killed? Agencies from all over were sending rescue dogs to sniff for survivors. Add to that was discovered all the graft and substandard construction, nothing built to earthquake standards. Seems like they had thousands killed but don't quote me on that/
It just happened and the point is that rocky Acapulco had little damage, while close to the epi-center, but in Mexico City, it was a major catastrophe.
I mentioned it before, but we actually had an earthquake centered 5 miles down directly beneath the city of Upland.. Had one water heater tip over that wasn't secured properly and the whole house burned to the ground and it was a half a block from my house.
So, in Pomona and San Dimas, 10 miles away, more than 10 million dollars in damage because same thing, they are in the flats, a dranage area since forever. Upland, however, is practically solid rock.
Lots of crops in Pomona and San Dimas, Upland is too rocky to plow for crops so they did the next best thing and planted groves of lemon trees, not needing any ground tilling. It's repeated all over Southern California. The crops and the groves are all gone, replaced by houses but lots of cities used to have orange groves, walnut orchards, Cherry Valley, Avacados, etc. It just demonstrates where the untilable ground is, and so they plant orchards and withstand earthquakes pretty well, because it's rocky and solid, not muddy or sand. So, that's my story and I'm sticking to it!
Good hunting. El Bee
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posted January 28, 2025 02:57 PM
Koko sand usually gets hard when weight put on it along with vibration and water. Yes it will settle over time till it forms a hard layer. Sand is what's used to build roads and form a foundation for roads.
a good clay is also used to build roads on as well.
Rock is hard but problem there is what's under it or not. empty voids. Rock can crack and separate and anything lose on top will fall into the newly formed crack.
The worse type of ground is peat and silt sand. Anytime a new road is built over top of peat soil a certain amount of peat has to be removed and then filled back over the top with same amount of sand. The sand forms a blanket or blister over the top of any remaining peat soil.
Drive a track machine over peat ground and the ground all around shakes like a bowl of Jello and the peat is very fluffy and why it makes good potting soil. Take a handful of peat and toss it up into the air, poof its gone, sand on other hand only goes so far till it hits the ground.
Blue clay or nice brown clay also makes a good foundation and can seal up the ground to prevent water from soaking in and makes a good liner for ponds and garbage dumps or used as a berm/wall for manmade dam. oh and can be placed over top of a sand roadbed to also help keep water out.
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Kokopelli
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posted January 28, 2025 06:32 PM
There's a map of the San Fran Bay that shows the intensity of a quake thru different soils. There were three Seismographs about the same distance from the epicenter of one of their quakes, each on a different type of ground. A lot of areas in the Bay were filled in for development.
Bedrock wasn't bad, regular dirt was so-so, but the sand / fill dirt was a nightmare. Something called 'Liquefaction' where like you said, the ground turns to Jello.
I've been thru the 6.8 Northridge quake and the 6.7 Nisqually quake. Now I live in Arizona. On bedrock.
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