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DAA
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Icon 1 posted May 08, 2014 07:29 AM      Profile for DAA   Author's Homepage   Email DAA         Edit/Delete Post 
Just a bunch of pics from a recent walk.

Not all of ruins or rock art, either, now that I think about it...

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DAA
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DAA
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Paul Melching
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Icon 1 posted May 08, 2014 07:43 AM      Profile for Paul Melching           Edit/Delete Post 
Looks like a great hike. Love the pictorial!

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Icon 1 posted May 08, 2014 08:07 AM      Profile for Kokopelli   Author's Homepage           Edit/Delete Post 
Cool !!!! [Cool]

The pottery shards got my attention. I find a lot of the exact same pattern as the black and white design on the inside, down this way.

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One thing about your photographs is they are NEVER boring!
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Leonard
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Icon 14 posted May 08, 2014 09:10 AM      Profile for Leonard   Author's Homepage   Email Leonard         Edit/Delete Post 
AWESOME STUFF !

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knockemdown
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Icon 1 posted May 08, 2014 09:24 AM      Profile for knockemdown   Author's Homepage           Edit/Delete Post 
So vibrantly captured, Dave! Love how you convey depth of field in the images!!!

MR. Toad looks like King Midas, surveying all his golden domain!

Think I recall seeing that huge arch on a tv commercial recently???

Diggin' that green Notch-esque tent photo, too! Not a Tarptent though, is it?

Thanks for taking the time, always appreciated [Smile]

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DAA
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Icon 1 posted May 08, 2014 10:05 AM      Profile for DAA   Author's Homepage   Email DAA         Edit/Delete Post 
Fred, no that's not a Tarptent. It's a Six Moon Design. A mind is a terrible thing to lose, but I honestly can't remember why I chose it, over the Notch. There WAS a reason, but I can't remember it! Must not have been a very big reason... Might have had something to do with me not liking to use trekking poles and this one working better without them, but I'm not sure about that.

That's Angel Arch, almost 150' tall, about 120' wide, it's appeared in all sorts of stuff. Pretty good little walk to get to it, from any direction though.

Glad you all like the pictures, didn't tote my DSLR on this trip, too heavy for this kid to pack 60 miles. Just used my little point and shoot, smaller than a deck of cards.

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What do you use for a point and shoot? It takes a pretty sharp image.
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DAA
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Icon 1 posted May 08, 2014 10:30 AM      Profile for DAA   Author's Homepage   Email DAA         Edit/Delete Post 
Troy, it's a Canon S100.

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Icon 1 posted May 08, 2014 10:53 AM      Profile for TRnCO   Email TRnCO         Edit/Delete Post 
more awesome pics. Dave. From looking at google earth, it looks like angel arch and the moler rock are pretty popular photo spots. A bunch of arches in that area and I can see where a guy could spend lots and lots of time and never get to see it all. Thanks for sharin' your photos.

on edit, your picture of Kirk cabin shows some aging compared to a couple pics. on google earth. Too bad the pics. on google earth don't show a time/date stamp. The wagon wheels are in much better shape in the pics. on google earth.

[ May 08, 2014, 10:59 AM: Message edited by: TRnCO ]

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Leonard
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Icon 1 posted May 08, 2014 11:21 AM      Profile for Leonard   Author's Homepage   Email Leonard         Edit/Delete Post 
quote:
The wagon wheels are in much better shape in the pics. on google earth.
And, possible reason: google earth.

Same theory as why coyotes are getting smarter: Nimrods with their Foxpro.

Good hunting. El Bee

edit: about koko's pot shards. Seems to be a popular theme just about everywhere. From Mexico to Colorado, they seem to be just about identical. That dude sure got around!

[ May 08, 2014, 11:24 AM: Message edited by: Leonard ]

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Icon 1 posted May 08, 2014 11:39 AM      Profile for TRnCO   Email TRnCO         Edit/Delete Post 
actually, when I compare again and look closer, about the only difference is that someone put the rim of the rear wheel up and leaning on the spokes and the cabin has changed just a little.
Leonard, the pics. on google earth are actual pictures that people have posted. Click on the pic. icon and pull them up, and you'll see that they were taken nearly from the same angle that Dave took his. Only difference is time..that is if you can find that exact spot on google earth. [Wink]

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DAA
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Icon 1 posted May 08, 2014 03:28 PM      Profile for DAA   Author's Homepage   Email DAA         Edit/Delete Post 
That's interesting TR. I haven't looked at any of the GE images (latest Windows update schwacked GE and Chrome, Microsoft bastards...).

Kirk left to go run sheep in the Book Cliffs in 1916 or thereabouts. The wagon probably isn't any newer than that.

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Awesome! Nary a whiskey bottle? Must have been traveling light, lol.
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Icon 1 posted May 08, 2014 05:25 PM      Profile for TRnCO   Email TRnCO         Edit/Delete Post 
Dave, when you get around a computer where you can GE that cabin, you really need to check it out. It's amazing looking at your photo and the one that has been posted on GE. Nearly the exact angle but at a slightly different distance.
It amazes me how good a guy can see things on GE. You can see the cabin, and follow the trail that Dave most likely followed. Some amazing country and canyons. That whole area looks like it would be awesome, as Dave is attesting to, to spend weeks upon weeks in there exploring. An exploring mans play ground, for sure.

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As always Dave, the pictures from your adventures are great to look at. Thanks for posting them.

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Nice work

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Wow! Great photos and simply amazing stuff in them.
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Leonard
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Icon 1 posted May 13, 2014 08:48 AM      Profile for Leonard   Author's Homepage   Email Leonard         Edit/Delete Post 
Hey Dave. Great photos, I have looked them over several times.

I have a question or two. First, were you alone or did you see other people on the trail or at the site?

Second, what's the protocol on poop? Is digging a hole the way to do it, or are you expected to lug all your waste out with you?

Good hunting. El Bee

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Icon 1 posted May 14, 2014 06:39 AM      Profile for DAA   Author's Homepage   Email DAA         Edit/Delete Post 
Leonard, I had two friends with me. Not sure what you mean by other people "at that site". We covered 60 miles (one way) on foot in 3.5 days. We visited a lot of sites!

As for other people along the way though, yes we saw plenty. More than I was expecting. Saw two guys towards the end of the first day. Saw them again late the next morning and another pair of hikers that afternoon. Third day we saw a shitload of people - two different groups of three people each. Saw nobody until we were almost all the way out on the last day, but then we started seeing a lot of people within 1 mile of the parking area where my Jeep had been left - saw at least three or four people there.

This particular area/route, dig a hole for the turd - but they expect you to pack out your used ass wipe. I burned mine (a huge no-no, big ticket for getting caught) and buried the ashes. I do understand why they forbid burning the paper, but I know how to do it without settting anyting else on fire OR fouling an archaeology site. So I take my chances...

A lot of nat'l park backcountry areas anymore though, yeah, you're supposed to pack your turds out with you. The Maze, which is just across the Colorado from where I was at, you are required to take your turds with you from the vehicle accessible camp sites. It's one of my all time favorite areas to visit and I go there usually a couple times a year, I do have a little folding toilet/bag deal to meet those requirements. The dead coyote rack on my Jeep is handy for keeping a turd vault outside the rig too.

Toilet at The Maze from March of this year.

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Leonard
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Icon 1 posted May 14, 2014 07:29 AM      Profile for Leonard   Author's Homepage   Email Leonard         Edit/Delete Post 
Good info. And, that (pic) sure looks like a perfect spot to linger and concentrate & contemplate the cosmos.

And, that's exactly what I was asking. I wondered if this was remote wilderness, like most of northern Nevada, (for instance) where you might not see anybody in three days, or...

It sounds like there are other people in and out that you will pass on the trail. Are there a few Rangers to monitor your activities, or no? What's the policy on horses?

Good hunting. El Bee

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DAA
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Icon 1 posted May 14, 2014 08:02 AM      Profile for DAA   Author's Homepage   Email DAA         Edit/Delete Post 
Rangers are supposedly lurking. But actually seeing one, like doing his job, rare, rare, rare. I can count on the fingers of one hand all the times I've encountered one in the real back country.

Horses, I'm not positive, but I don't think they are allowed on overnight trips in this area, only day trips. I'm no horseman, but I think a good rider and a good horse could negotiate the whole length of the main trail easy enough. But I don't think anyone could ride a horse on a lot of the side explorations we did. We bushwhacked some pretty rough terrain exploring some of those side canyons.

And now that I think about it, pretty sure that where they do allow horse camps, you're supposed to pack out the horse turds too!

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DAA
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Icon 1 posted May 14, 2014 08:13 AM      Profile for DAA   Author's Homepage   Email DAA         Edit/Delete Post 
I would add, that it's hard to compare this stuff with N. Nevada. This is a much smaller area but a lot harder to get in to. The trip we took here, you need two 4 wheel drives and the willingness and ability to backpack for a few days. And if you leave the main trail and bushwack up a side canyon that has no trail, which we did a lot of, you might go a very long time without seeing anyone.

Kind of like in N. Nevada, you will see traffic along the main ranch roads, but head out on a faint two track for a ways and you could easily sit there for weeks or months or even years before another vehicle would come along.

Of course, that's mostly speaking of how "it used to be". It's still possible to get really remote and unvisited out there, but it's getting harder to do every year. Places that 20 years ago were scarcely travelled and there was no chance of seeing another rig, getting pounded to fucking death every weekend now. Two tracks that used to be faint, are graded roads now. Valleys that used to be empty, houses and ranchettes and rich folks building compounds showing up more and more. Mines, oil and gas exploration, the people who come with it. They are nibbling away at those white areas on the map every year too.

That whole N. Nevada experience is going away. Fast.

- DAA

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