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DAA
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posted November 23, 2013 05:28 PM
So I hope Koko doesn't mind that I'm adopting his camp site rating system. I like it.
Spent the last two nights in a camp that was a zero in more ways than one ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif) .
That was yesterday morning.
This was when I got back to camp a little after lunch yesterday. It looked a lot worse when I crawled out of the tent this morning, but it was snowing too hard to get the camera out of the Jeep so I just packed up and boogied.
When I dropped down a couple thousand feet, still had 25 miles of dirt to the highway and it was mud city. I'll take snow over mud any day! I hate mud... Didn't get stuck in it today though. Just looking at $20 at the carwash to get the worst of it off.
- DAA
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TRnCO
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posted November 23, 2013 06:13 PM
looks and sounds like a good time was had.
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TundraWookie
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posted November 23, 2013 06:16 PM
Looks like a fun time to me, thanks for the pictures. Do you have ever use woodstoves in your tents? I do a bit of winter camping and am eyeing one of the locally built Arctic Oven tents with a woodstove to put inside it. Multi day trips in the heart of winter are tricky without a good source of heat.
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jimanaz
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posted November 23, 2013 08:05 PM
Believe it or not, this ol' desert rat has done some camping like that. Had a good front roll through right after we got set up on the Kaibab one year. We were there for 8 or 9 days and the snow was knee deep around camp when we packed up. I'm sure some of our gear was there until the next spring, and my tent got tossed afterwards. It was cold, but we survived. Propane heaters are the bomb!
Missed the biggest buck I've had a chance at so far, that trip. Le sigh.
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DAA
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posted November 23, 2013 08:34 PM
TW, never use a wood stove in that tent, just a propane heater.
Years ago, a buddy had a wall tent that we'd use a woodstove in though. Those were the days!
- DAA
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Kokopelli
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posted November 23, 2013 08:40 PM
I'm honored that you use my rating system.
Drive on!!!!
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TundraWookie
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posted November 23, 2013 10:21 PM
I use the Mr. Buddy's once in awhile in the fall to take the edge off, but they sure seem to load up the tent walls with condensation. Then, come morning, those wet walls rain down snow if you bump it...fun stuff for sure. The dry heat of wood is really tough to beat out in no-man's land too. Nice setup you have there though, looks pretty comfortable.
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Leonard
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posted November 23, 2013 11:37 PM
I remember once, I had to pull the truck right into the water of the Little Snake, just so I could throw buckets of cold muddy water at it. I believe there was hundreds of pounds of mud on and under that truck. The current took some of it off the bottom.
But, the blizzard was like three days before, then all the action, and then the thaw and all the mud getting the hell out of there.
The wannabes drive up the San Gabriel River and deliberately drive through those mud holes, then drive around like some kind of hero with a muddy truck, on a sunday afternoon. I think most of them would wet their pants in really snotty conditions.
Good hunting. El Bee
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DiYi
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posted November 24, 2013 07:00 AM
Good stuff.Many years ago(30?)I and 4 friends had a zero that turned into a 10.With the help of a 'local'from Dubois,Wy we packed into an area in the upper Dunoir(I may have all these Wyoming spellings wrong now)to hunt elk.It started snowing at the trailhead and the local suggested waiting but we went in anyway.Had about 10-12 inches on the ground by the time we got in,got 1 of 2 wall tents up and crammed into it about dark.'Campwise' we never did recover.Next morning the local rode out and took 3 sissy buddies(read smart into it if you wish)with him.My buddy Herb and I stayed and over the next few days shot 5 bulls(filled all tags-legal or not)as the elk nearly came through our camp on their migration toward Jackson Hole.
After a few days we heard 'yo the camp'and looked out to see a real character Outfitter our buddies had hired to extricate us sitting there with his nephew taking regular 'pulls' on whiskey jugs in his saddle bags.Told him to go get more horses cause we had 20 quarters and 5 racks to get out.What followed over 2 days was quite an ordeal and it cost us a pretty penny but now a very fond memory.
A highlight was when we proudly showed this character a pile of mixed up 20 quarters.Being 'easterners' we had no idea the quarter weights needed to be matched and got cursed steadily as they added rocks etc to even out the loads on the pack horses.
The character(a few of you may know him-or of him)and his nephew were tough hombres though.Never forget the nephew who worked and road in snow for 18 hours or so wearing tennis and cotton socks.
Yup zero to 10 for sure.
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Leonard
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posted November 24, 2013 08:55 AM
I spent a damned cold day and a half with a local, one time. I absolutely froze my ass off and all he had on was Wranglers and a hoodie. That ain't right; and I was layered, as they like to say.
I've said it before, those are the one's you remember, not the perfect hunts, the one's that turn to shit.
I remember after driving 700 miles all day, we drove right into a first class blizzard. We spent, (three of us) all night trying to sleep in the cab, shoulder to shoulder; forget pitching a tent. (memo, don't pack the first thing you need way up front!) Almost all you could do was laugh about it.
I once had to dig a quarter mile of impassable silt from a road due to a flash flood. Sometimes you wish you had TWO shovels, but we managed to create two tracks of solid roadbed.
Just south of Ely, developped a hole in a bypass hose on a friggin' Ford. There we were, in a snowstorm melting snow with a propane torch to put in the radiator...like every half mile, still about 20 miles short of McGill.
So, this guy in a Ford sedan pulls up and asks what the problem was and we said leaking radiator and he said he had a screw. We both thought he was a fruitcake and ignored him. But, he pulled over and backed up to us, opened his trunk and you never saw so many parts for a 308 Ford. This guy had THREE of those special L shaped hoses, cut one to fit and installed it for us. Well, my cousin never learned his lesson about being prepared, who else would drive a Ford with no tools?
Funny thing is the only gas station in McGill was closed so we were driving along and down the road see this guy in the Ford sedan, pulled over. Mike just kept driving and I said, aren't you going to stop? He said; "What for, he already has everything he needs!"
Good hunting. El Bee
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DAA
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posted November 24, 2013 10:00 AM
That is great stuff DiYi - love it!
Leonard has heard a few of my stories. I get out there amongst 'em by myself fairly often, things do get western occasionally. Actually had a couple minor inconveniences on this last trip. Jeep stuck twice. By myself. Took a few hours with shovel and winch is all, not a big deal (although the slide off was close - another Jeep length and I'd still be there now...), but the kind of stuff that keeps most guys out of that country in that kind of weather. And sometimes makes me wonder why I'm not that smart...
Couple quick fluid leak repair stories. First, one, only about 8 years old, out coyote hunting with my Dad. Water pump on his old Ford started pouring out of the weep hole. No way we were going to make it back to civilization losing antifreeze at that rate. Dad showed me where the antifreeze was coming out and explained how it worked - weep hole is there to let you know diaphragm is going bad. Said if we could just plug that hole the water pump probably had enough life left in it to get back to a town. I was laying there next to him under the truck, had an idea, pulled a .22LR shell out of my pocket and held it up to the weep hole - looked just the right size! And it was. Pried the slug out and tapped it in there and we were good to go.
Another time, by myself bowhunting, in my '74 Chev. Driving up on Monroe Mountain in the middle of the night, saw my temp gauge climbing. Got out with a flashlight and saw a small hole in the front of my radiator. Cast my light around the ground at my feet, spied a small stick of about the right size, whittle the end down a bit, jammed it in the hole and stopped the leak - more or less permanently! Drove that truck with that stick plugging that hole for at least another 10,000 miles before I got around to brazing it.
- DAA
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DiYi
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posted November 25, 2013 04:06 AM
Great stuff Dave.
Leonard the 'local' in my story slept that night in wet snow/mud in wranglers,hoodie,jean jacket,cowboy hat and horse blanket.He did leave his c boots on though.We had sleeping bags and froze.I agree,it ain't right.
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