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Posted by Frank (Member # 6) on June 26, 2013, 10:50 AM:
Justice Scalia angrily wrote the following after the SCOTUS legalized same sex marriage:
But to defend traditional marriage is not to condemn, demean, or humiliate those who would prefer other arrangements, any more than to defend the Constitution of the United States is to con- demn, demean, or humiliate other constitutions. To hurl such accusations so casually demeans this institution. In the majority's judgment, any resistance to its holding is beyond the pale of reasoned disagreement. To question its high-handed invalidation of a presumptively valid statute is to act (the majority is sure) with the purpose to "dis- parage," "injure," "degrade," "demean," and "humiliate" our fellow human beings, our fellow citizens, who are homo- sexual. All that, simply for supporting an Act that did no more than codify an aspect of marriage that had been unquestioned in our society for most of its existence— indeed, had been unquestioned in virtually all societies for virtually all of human history. It is one thing for a society to elect change; it is another for a court of law to impose change by adjudging those who oppose it hostes humani generis, enemies of the human race.
He said allot more but this sums up the correct view. I had little respect for two of our branches of government, now I can add a third - The Supreme Court Of The United States. What a bunch of degenerate pukes.
BTW, Justice kennedy wrote the majority opinion to allow same sex marriage. My first thought was "He must be Catholic". I looked on Wikipedia to find out and sure enough.....he's a goddammed Catholic. Don't ask me why I thought this but I was right!
Posted by Lone Howl (Member # 29) on June 26, 2013, 12:32 PM:
Gov Brown just announced that gay marriage will resume shortly here in Cali. Good times!
Posted by booger (Member # 3602) on June 26, 2013, 12:44 PM:
Frank,
I guess I fail to see the fact that equating being a 'goddammed' Catholic has anything to do with siding with the queers to marry each other.
I am a 'goddammed' Catholic, conservative, and very proud of it. Our congregation is very conservative as is our priest...in fact, he has gone about as far as he can before he gets into trouble talking about Obamacare, and the various shit our country is facing.
I have a nephew that is a priest and he feels the same way.
Don't in any way lump me into the same putrid bucket of shit with those people that call themselves practical Catholics like Kathleen Sebelius, Joe Biden, Nancy Pelosi and the f'n Kennedys.
I used to like and enjoy your posts up until this comment...don't go down the same road as Timmy from Minnesota...
[ June 26, 2013, 01:01 PM: Message edited by: booger ]
Posted by DAA (Member # 11) on June 26, 2013, 01:27 PM:
I could not possibly give a fuck less who marries who. It's not any of my business. It's not any of your business. It for fucking sure shouldn't be any of the gov'ts business.
So fags can marry one another and get the same tax deductions as other married people. So what?
- DAA
Posted by Frank (Member # 6) on June 26, 2013, 02:53 PM:
TOO BIG TO FAIL
I don't know exactly why a Catholic Supreme Court Justice would be so inclined either. That's why I said don't ask me. I've got some operative theories but I haven't yet reached a conclusion (and I do believe in credible conspiracy theories as history is rife with them). The fact he voted for this obamanation just gave a little more credence to my theory.
Hint: It has to do with Protestants, the Papacy, and Catholics. Ever notice how Italy is virtually unaffected by muslim immigration (Italy is predominantly Catholic)?
Ever notice how most South American countries are affected very little by muslim immigration (for predominantly Catholic countries)?
Now ask yourself, Why is it that our politicians almost never go with majority opinion in this country? Illegal immigration is one example...the politicians have ignored the wishes of the American people time and time again when it comes to illegal immigration (most illegals are Catholic).
Is there a link? I'm not sure. Given what I see around the world it sure looks like there's a link.....and through history Catholics have been know to do these type of things (like the inquisition against Protestant England which failed when the Spanish Navy was soundly trounced trying to invade England). There's also a known link between the Pope and Hitler during WWII.
Far fetched? Maybe.
I have long said we need to vote out our entire current crop of politicians. Do you remember when it was said America would never elect a Catholic for president? Did you know JFK was our first Catholic president (he was assassinated). Wasn't it in the 60's when the decline of America started?....like right after Kennedy was elected. Co-incidence? Maybe.
What does it say in the Bible? Matthew 7:20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.
Edit to add:
Operative greeting between Jesuits and Catholic priests: "So...how many little boys have you dorked today"?
[ June 26, 2013, 03:17 PM: Message edited by: Frank ]
Posted by DanS (Member # 316) on June 26, 2013, 03:32 PM:
I don't think the gov't should be involved in marriage either.
I understand it as a religious ceremony between a man and a woman and God. Just like I wouldn't want them involved in other religous ceremonies, such as Baptisms, bar mitzvahs, or comunions.
Then again I don't feel people should get special privilages from the gov't for being married or baptised, etc...
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on June 26, 2013, 03:42 PM:
Frank, as a "god damned Catholic" I was already offended by your comments, BEFORE this bullshit:
quote:
Operative greeting between Jesuits and Catholic priests: "So...how many little boys have you dorked today"?
The part that bothers me about "gay marriage" is how it cheapens an honorable institution. That's what it's all about, they desperately need validation. So, they reinvent human history assisted by PC liberals on the Supreme Court.
It so happens that I spent most of my life not believing the misbehavior going on in the priesthood. Unfortunately, I was wrong. It looks like the celibacy requirements have attracted a certain element. Right away, you wonder about those that enter into a contract with God and vow to abstain from sex, forever.
The priest that married us had movie star good looks, I always wondered if women were throwing themselves at him. He left the priesthood later, I was not surprised. Father OBrian. Have no idea what he's doing today but it has nothing to do with the clergy. Too many distractions for a man with his looks.
Anyway, human beings are apparently not fallible? No surprise there. Look no further than our politicians, Governors, Senators...and Presidents.
I seem to remember a few Protestant clergy that fucked up. Big time. Why single out Catholics? Bullshit, Frank.
Good hunting. El Bee
Posted by booger (Member # 3602) on June 26, 2013, 03:46 PM:
Frank,
I don't want to derail this thread with my treatise on Catholicism.
A couple of things and I will shut up on this...I don't know that most illegals are Catholic. I know most of the Hispanics in my church are legal, and they feel the same way you and I do about illegals--they have told me.
As far as the Pope being in bed with Hitler...that is no more correct than Neville Chamberlain being in bed with that fanatic. Both the Pope and the time and Chamberlain were trying to appease a tyrant. We know how that turned out for both England and Italy.
Lastly, my initial point was that Justice Kennedy no more embodies a true Catholic perspective than the man in the moon. A liberal is a liberal no matter what religious designation they deem themselves to be.
***Just saw your edit on the priests...that is just wrong.***
[ June 26, 2013, 03:51 PM: Message edited by: booger ]
Posted by CrossJ (Member # 884) on June 26, 2013, 04:07 PM:
quote:
So fags can marry one another and get the same tax deductions as other married people.
Shrink our government, and our tax code, do away with the government trough, and most of these social issues will become non issues. The problem is big gov't.
Posted by Frank (Member # 6) on June 26, 2013, 04:16 PM:
I did say it's a theory. Would not surprise me in the least were it true. I like to try and"connect the dots" because there ain't no answers coming from anyplace else.
Why is this country in decline? There's a whole slew of reasons.....this latest Supreme Court opinion is one of them. But I can tell you one thing.... The decline didn't just happen on its own. It had to be "helped along".
George Soros, Hollywood, drugs, excessive wealth, turning away from God?
There is a reason for it. I like to ask, who, what, where, and when. And I don't discount anything. Just too much evil in this world for that.
Posted by Frank (Member # 6) on June 26, 2013, 04:27 PM:
I should also add this country is quickly becoming a Gomorra (if its not already). And we know what happens to a Gomorra.
This country is too strong to be destroyed from without.
Posted by the bearhunter (Member # 3552) on June 26, 2013, 04:37 PM:
excessive wealth,??.
seems to me that those that have earned it have made this the best place on earth??
apathy towards the lazy,ebonic speaking N'rs,lack of respect towards one another have ruined this country. a good older buddy of mine just rewrote his will. he's well off and was gonna leave his church 100,000$. however, he's as sick as i am about these churches sponsering bringing africans over here and letting them live off the taxpayers and withdrew his 1000,000$. good for him.
[ June 26, 2013, 04:44 PM: Message edited by: the bearhunter ]
Posted by Frank (Member # 6) on June 26, 2013, 04:56 PM:
Posted by MI VHNTR (Member # 3370) on June 26, 2013, 06:04 PM:
Frank says quote:
My first thought was "He must be Catholic". I looked on Wikipedia to find out and sure enough.....he's a goddammed Catholic. Don't ask me why I thought this but I was right!
I too, am a Catholic, and I am also offended by your BS remarks. One can only wonder what, if any, religion you practice.
Posted by Duckdog (Member # 3842) on June 26, 2013, 07:54 PM:
I was raised catholic (all the way through conformation) but I really don't consider myself catholic anymore.
I, for one, am NOT offended, because in order to be offended I'd have to give a shit about what Frank thought, wrote, or said, and...I don't.
Posted by Frank (Member # 6) on June 26, 2013, 08:58 PM:
Well, don't be offended. I am what is derisively called a Truth Seeker. I'm not saying I'm right...what I'm saying is you should look at the totality of it all and come to your own conclusion. I'm only layin it out there. This is something I've contemplated for some time, a theory. This hits home from a historical perspective.
For example, the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1965 was authored by United States Senator Philip Hart of Michigan, and heavily supported by United States Senator Ted Kennedy....both well known Catholics as well as rabidly anti-gun.
Here's the link if you don't believe it:
Immigration and Nationality Act of 1965 - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_and_Nationality_Act_of_1965
I urge you to click on the link and read what this law does....it opened the floodgates.
Now I have to ask, what is the official position of Rome on the Protestants? I mean, what is their stand regarding the beliefs of the Protestant Religions? Don't forget there used to be a lot of killin going on between Catholics and Protestants....even into the modern era in Ireland. Don't forget "Tip" O'Neill - another prominent Catholic - and his support of Irish Catholics with weapons:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tip_O%27Neill
Has the Catholic Church come to accept the legitimacy of Protestants or does the institutional or historic position of the Church remain unchanged?
You tell me...
To be fair this is something the laity would never have knowledge of. Only those at the highest levels would be aware.
What I'm doing is connecting the dots...look at it yourself and decide for yourself if something like this could be true.
I'm Lutheran and well aware of the tricks that come out of Rome.
PS.. I've never engaged in any personal attacks on this board. I discuss/write about ideas.
Edit to add another thought: Protestant Europe is set to go up in flames due to muslim immigration within, what?, maybe two or three generations? Just sayin......
[ June 26, 2013, 09:23 PM: Message edited by: Frank ]
Posted by TOM64 (Member # 561) on June 26, 2013, 09:41 PM:
Any chance the queers will breed themselves into extinction?
Posted by Kokopelli (Member # 633) on June 26, 2013, 09:59 PM:
Between the `Jew Bitch` and the `goddamned Catholic` comments, I wonder if there's anybody that Frank DOESN'T hate????
Pitiful.
Posted by Frank (Member # 6) on June 26, 2013, 10:17 PM:
I respect people who work and hold American values of freedom. If you try to destroy those freedoms then I hate you. Simple, really.
So here's a story which brings home the consequences of political correctness. Look...... you can't be all gushy mushy in loving all people's of the world. You gotta draw the line somewhere or your gonna get stepped on.
Here's a great example that comes out of Denmark:
Salute the Danish Flag - it's a Symbol of Western Freedom
By Susan MacAllen
In 1978-99 I was living and studying in Denmark. But in 1978 - even in Copenhagen, one didn't see Muslim immigrants. The Danish population embraced visitors, celebrated the exotic, went out of its way to protect each of its citizens. It was proud of its new brand of socialist liberalism one in development since the conservatives had lost power in 1929 - a system where no worker had to struggle to survive, where one ultimately could count upon the state as in, perhaps, no other western nation at the time.
The rest of Europe saw the Scandinavians as free-thinking, progressive and infinitely generous in their welfare policies. Denmark boasted low crime rates, devotion to the environment, a superior educational system and a history of humanitarianism.
Denmark was also most generous in its immigration policies - it offered the best welcome in Europe to the new immigrant: generous welfare payments from first arrival plus additional perks in transportation, housing and education. It was determined to set a world example for inclusiveness and multiculturalism. How could it have predicted that one day in 2005 a series of political cartoons in a newspaper would spark violence that would leave dozens dead in the streets - all because its commitment to multiculturalism would come back to bite?
By the 1990's the growing urban Muslim population was obvious - and its unwillingness to integrate into Danish society was obvious.
Years of immigrants had settled into Muslim-exclusive enclaves. As the Muslim leadership became more vocal about what they considered the decadence of Denmark 's liberal way of life, the Danes - once so welcoming - began to feel slighted. Many Danes had begun to see Islam as incompatible with their long-standing values: belief in personal liberty and free speech, equality for women, tolerance for other ethnic groups, and a deep pride in Danish heritage and history.
An article by Daniel Pipes and Lars Hedegaard, in which they forecasted accurately, that the growing immigrant problem in Denmark would explode. In the article they reported:
'Muslim immigrants constitute 5 percent of the population but consume upwards of 40 percent of the welfare spending. ''Muslims are only 4 percent of Denmark's 5.4 million people but make up a majority of the country's convicted rapists, an especially combustible issue given that practically all the female victims are non-Muslim. Similar, if lesser, disproportions are found in other crimes.'
'Over time, as Muslim immigrants increase in numbers, they wish less to mix with the indigenous population. A recent survey finds that only 5 percent of young Muslim immigrants would readily marry a Dane.' 'Forced marriages - promising a newborn daughter in Denmark to a male cousin in the home country, then compelling her to marry him, sometimes on pain of death - are one problem.'
'Muslim leaders openly declare their goal of introducing Islamic law once Denmark's Muslim population grows large enough - a not-that-remote prospect. If present trends persist, one sociologist estimates, every third inhabitant of Denmark in 40 years will be Muslim.'
It is easy to understand why a growing number of Danes would feel that Muslim immigrants show little respect for Danish values and laws. An example is the phenomenon common to other European countries and Canada: some Muslims in Denmark who opted to leave the Muslim faith have been murdered in the name of Islam, while others hide in fear for their lives. Jews are also threatened and harassed openly by Muslim leaders in Denmark, a country where once Christian citizens worked to smuggle out nearly all of their 7,000 Jews by night to Sweden - before the Nazis could invade. I think of my Danish friend Elsa - who, as a teenager, had dreaded crossing the street to the bakery every morning under the eyes of occupying Nazi soldiers - and I wonder what she would say today.
In 2001, Denmark elected the most conservative government in some 70 years - one that had some decidedly non-generous ideas about liberal unfettered immigration. Today, Denmark has the strictest immigration policies in Europe . (Its effort to protect itself has been met with accusations of 'racism' by liberal media across Europe - even as other governments struggle to right the social problems wrought by years of too-lax immigration.)
If you wish to become Danish, you must attend three years of language classes. You must pass a test on Denmark's history, culture, and a Danish language test.
You must live in Denmark for 7 years before applying for citizenship.
You must demonstrate an intent to work, and have a job waiting. If you wish to bring a spouse into Denmark , you must both be over 24 years of age, and you won't find it so easy anymore to move your friends and family to Denmark with you.
You will not be allowed to build a mosque in Copenhagen, although your children have a choice of some 30 Arabic culture and language schools in Denmark , they will be strongly encouraged to assimilate to Danish society in ways that past immigrants weren't.
In 2006, the Danish minister for employment, Claus Hjort Frederiksen, spoke publicly of the burden of Muslim immigrants on the Danish welfare system, and it was horrifying: the government's welfare committee had calculated that if immigration from Third World countries were blocked, 75 percent of the cuts needed to sustain the huge welfare system in coming decades would be unnecessary. In other words, the welfare system, as it existed, was being exploited by immigrants to the point of eventually bankrupting the government. 'We are simply forced to adopt a new policy on immigration.'
'The calculations of the welfare committee are terrifying and show how unsuccessful the integration of immigrants has been up to now,' he said.
A large thorn in the side of Denmark's imams is the Minister of Immigration and Integration, Rikke Hvilshoj. She makes no bones about the new policy toward immigration, 'The number of foreigners coming to the country makes a difference,' Hvilshoj says, 'There is an inverse correlation between how many come here and how well we can receive the foreigners that come.' And on Muslim immigrants needing to demonstrate a willingness to blend in, 'In my view, Denmark should be a country with room for different cultures and religions. Some values, however, are more important than others. We refuse to question democracy, equal rights, and freedom of speech.'
Hvilshoj has paid a price for her show of backbone. Perhaps to test her resolve, the leading radical imam in Denmark, Ahmed Abdel Rahman Abu Laban, demanded that the government pay blood money to the family of a Muslim who was murdered in a suburb of Copenhagen, stating that the family's thirst for revenge could be thwarted for money. When Hvilshoj dismissed his demand, he argued that in Muslim culture the payment of retribution money was common, to which Hvilshoj replied that what is done in a Muslim country is not necessarily what is done in Denmark.
The Muslim reply came soon after: her house was torched while she, her husband and children slept. All managed to escape unharmed, but she and her family were moved to a secret location and she and other ministers were assigned bodyguards for the first time - in a country where such murderous violence was once so scarce.
Her government has slid to the right, and her borders have tightened. Many believe that what happens in the next decade will determine whether Denmark survives as a bastion of good living, humane thinking and social responsibility, or whether it becomes a nation at civil war with supporters of Sharia law.
And meanwhile, Canadians clamor for stricter immigration policies, and demand an end to state welfare programs that allow many immigrants to live on the public dole.
As we in Canada look at the enclaves of Muslims amongst us, and see those who enter our shores too easily, dare live on our taxes, yet refuse to embrace our culture, respect our traditions, participate in our legal system, obey our laws, speak our language, appreciate our history. We would do well to look to Denmark, and say a prayer for her future and for our own.
Posted by Eddie (Member # 4324) on June 27, 2013, 02:36 AM:
Frank you should be thankful you live in this country. Instead of crying and bitching all the time you should be giving thanks you live in a place where you have the right to do so. A little of your bullshit goes along way.
Posted by TRnCO (Member # 690) on June 27, 2013, 06:55 AM:
Frank, maybe you should try getting out of bed on the other side a time or two, because from reading what you put on here almost daily, it seems like you hate life every day you wake up. Life's too short to hate life that much.
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on June 27, 2013, 07:18 AM:
I don't have any problem pointing out the threat of muslim infiltration. As far as I am concerned, we need more people shouting from the rooftops.
But, I think Frank is doing a bit of misdirection, having stepped in shit over his views on Catholicism.
I do not like to control or moderate political conversation on this Board. Other than interjecting my own views into these conversations, that is.
I think it is not helpful to disparage Jews, Catholics or blacks, just to name a few. If you want to talk about the Muslim threat, be my guest.
Good hunting. El Bee
Posted by Aznative (Member # 506) on June 27, 2013, 01:38 PM:
I don't believe the SCOTUS has legal jurisdiction over this issue. This should be up to the states. The constitution was suppose to limit the powers of the federal government. If Commyfonia wants to allow queers to marry. That is Commyfonia's business, and Leonard can make the choice of when he is finally fed up with all this BS and move to Ariz. If someone wants to go to Colorado and smoke dope let them. If they wish to live in a drug free state they should be allowed to do just that. The states were suppose to have most of the power as per the Constitution.
BTW: I'm not Catholic but I have a picture of Pope John Paul on the wall because he was a great Pope IMHO. I give credit when deserved and bitch if it isn't.
Posted by MI VHNTR (Member # 3370) on June 27, 2013, 06:33 PM:
Frank says: quote:
Well, don't be offended. I am what is derisively called a Truth Seeker.
No, you are just FOS.
Posted by Frank (Member # 6) on June 27, 2013, 06:56 PM:
Leonard
I'm sorry if you or any on this board were (are) offended.
I'm just trying to look out for America and white society.
[ June 27, 2013, 06:57 PM: Message edited by: Frank ]
Posted by booger (Member # 3602) on June 28, 2013, 05:52 AM:
quote:
I'm just trying to look out for America and white society
Guess I can’t keep my mouth shut after this last comment.
I descend from immigrants myself and have some Indian blood in my background, so now I am a dreaded Catholic, an immigrant, and not white enough for Frank.
I usually don’t see color until someone backs me into a corner and starts poking me in the chest with racist bullshit.
If someone comes along that is conservative enough and has good ideas to lift this country up out of the shit we are in, I could give a rat’s ass if that person was purple…
The old saying goes, ‘When you find yourself in a hole, stop digging’.
Posted by Frank (Member # 6) on June 28, 2013, 07:30 AM:
This is a book in PDF form which is free. It discusses Immigration into this country from day 1.
If you want to know why this country is going down the drain then this book will give insight into the reasons why we are becoming a third world nation
www.vdare.com/alien_nation/Alien-Nation.pdf
Posted by Rich (Member # 112) on June 28, 2013, 08:23 AM:
"If you want to know why this country is going down the drain then this book will give insight into the reasons why we are becoming a third world nation"
-----------------------------------------
No need to read another book to know that our country is going down the sewer because of OBAMA and all of the left wing loons who follow him. Obama has dragged our country down so bad that I see little hope for recovery.
Posted by Frank (Member # 6) on June 28, 2013, 08:08 PM:
I give up
[ June 28, 2013, 08:20 PM: Message edited by: Frank ]
Posted by Frank (Member # 6) on June 29, 2013, 06:28 AM:
Below is a list of the Founding Fathers of the United States of America.
Along with their names is a listing of their religion at birth and in some cases what they became in later life:
John Adams - Unitarian
Benjamin Franklin - Episcopalian but was a Deist as an adult
Alexander Hamilton - Episcopalian
John Jay - Episcopalian
Thomas Jefferson - Christian Deist (unaffiliated deist)
James Madison - Deist, Episcopalianism
George Washington - Religion Deism Episcopal.
You will note there isn't a Catholic among them.
For those that may not fully appreciate the meaning of this you should know our founders were Protestants at birth.
What is a Protestant?
Answer - A religion which "protests" against the policies of the Catholic church leadership i.e. the Pope, Rome, the Bishop of Rome...whatever you want to call it.
Notice I said the "leadership" not the Laity or the individual members of the church (like many on this board).
Despite the fact our founders were Protestant, they still proclaimed religious freedom in the US.
These founding fathers created what we call today a secular society.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secular
If you know your history, the Catholic church has been at war with Protestants since Martin Luther created the Lutheran church...a "Protestant" religion.
The history of Europe is largely written in blood because of these religious wars.. here's a link to just one of what is probly 1000 wars fought between Catholics and Protestants:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_Wars_of_Religion
These wars were fought based on the policies of Rome or the Papacy and continued well into the late 1800's. It was after WWI these religious wars stopped (except in Ireland where the Protestants and Catholics are still fighting or at odds with one another).
I might add that Thomas Phillip "Tip" O'Neill, secretly provided arms to the Irish Catholics during his tenure in the House of Representatives.
Below is a paragraph on Irish immigration which was extracted from this link:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish_immigration
"The experience of Irish immigrants in America has not always been harmonious. The U.S. did not have a good relationship with most of the incoming Irish because of their Catholic faith, as the majority of the population was Protestant and had been originally formed by offshoots of the Protestant faith".
"So it came as no surprise that the federal government issued new immigration acts, adding to previous ones which limited Eastern European immigration, ones which limited the immigration of the Irish (Catholics)".
In case someone gets the wrong idea, I have nothing against the Irish themselves.... what I question is their fealty to Rome.
So I ask again, has the policy of Rome towards Protestants changed?
Show me where, in written Cannon Law of the Catholic church, the proclamation has been made that opposition to the Protestant religions is to be stopped.
Please, show me! If you can provide proof I will gladly stand corrected.
We all know the phrase "Those Who Forget History Are Doomed to Repeat It".
I think the black hand of the Papacy is written all over the decline of "Protestant" America and Europe.
Why? Well....... just look at the timing of our decline. It all started in the 60's with the election of our first Catholic president, John F Kennedy and the changes to immigration law put in place by the Kennedy family politicians.
I also would like you to be aware of the composition of the Supreme Court around 1900. It goes like this:
J. M. Harlan - Presbyterian
H. Gray – UNK, Merchant
D.J. Brewer – Congregationalist (Protestant)
H.B. Brown - Congregationalist as a child, Agnostic as an adult
Geo. Shiras, Jr. - Presbyterian
O.W. Holmes - Congregationalist (Protestant)
William Rufus Day – Lutheran
I would also like to make you aware of the composition of the Supreme Court today:
Sonia Sotomayor - Roman Catholic
Stephen Breyer - Judaism
Antonin Scalia - Roman Catholic (God bless him!)
Elena Kagan - Judaism
Clarence Thomas - Roman Catholic
John Roberts - Roman Catholic
Anthony Kennedy - Roman Catholic
Ruth Bader Ginsburg - Judaism
Samuel Alito - Roman Catholic
Do or did these powerful leaders show fealty to Rome?
No way in hell can that ever be proven.
But I'd like you to remember the Bible where it says in Matthew 7:20:
Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.
[ June 29, 2013, 09:24 AM: Message edited by: Frank ]
Posted by trapper2 (Member # 3651) on June 29, 2013, 11:03 AM:
yep and by your fruits I am beginning to see what you are, just a mad person, mad at everyone cause it aint all your way. im white as you can get but that racist remark you made hit me wrong, I got a lot of friends that are black or indian and they are a lot better people then some of the whites I know
Posted by DanS (Member # 316) on June 29, 2013, 11:30 AM:
Using statistics as a gauge can make any case you want. Your using Catholics as one statistic, what if you used that I believe all the founding fathers were men, white men, over 40.
Good grief.
I'm not catholic, but my father was. Him with a bunch of other Catholics were some of the best men I have ever known. My great grandfather was full Cherokee, guess that makes me a savage too.
WTF, over?...
Posted by Rich (Member # 112) on June 29, 2013, 12:52 PM:
Frank is simply poking holes in the air with his finger. It is time for him to shut the hell up. I doubt that anyone here really gives a shit what he thinks anyway.
Posted by Eddie (Member # 4324) on June 29, 2013, 01:11 PM:
I believe you got it right Rich, Its about time. Give it a rest Frank, you had your say, let it go.
Posted by Kokopelli (Member # 633) on June 29, 2013, 01:59 PM:
"I'm just trying to look out for America and white society".
White society being anyone who is Caucasian, but not a God Damned Catholic.
Or a Jew bitch.
Probably not a Mormon either.
Or a Druid. (That would be me.)
And,
In Frank's perfect America, we throw out that whole `Freedom of the Press` thing 'cause the MEDIA only prints, publishes, airs that which Frank approves of.
To be honest, I really can't see much difference between Frank `looking out for white society` and those Black Panthers who were `guarding` the polling places for the blacks a couple of years back. The robes are just different colors.
Somebody send me an email when this site's about calling critters & trading ideas & B-S'ing in general again.
Posted by TA17Rem (Member # 794) on June 29, 2013, 02:01 PM:
Sure JFK. was a dreaded Catholic and he was the first president to say the Catholic church has no business in government.. I agree.
You all do a little searching in history and you will find that the Catholic church is responsible for more deaths than any other religion..
Should also ask the church why JFK. was assonated....( theory )
Have to admit for once I enjoy Franks posts.. ![[Smile]](smile.gif)
Posted by Prune Picker (Member # 4107) on June 29, 2013, 02:39 PM:
Has anyone bought a new gun lately? How about a fishin pole? Using my best Rodney king voice.... cans't weez all getz ahlong? Our common enemy is the fucking muslim extremists who are dead set on killing you, me and our neighbors. If anyone wants to bash someone bash me for drinking a crystal lite peach flavored water with my little finger on my bottle holding hand extended.
Posted by TA17Rem (Member # 794) on June 29, 2013, 02:56 PM:
I bought a Savage late this winter/early spring..
Posted by Duckdog (Member # 3842) on June 29, 2013, 07:20 PM:
After reading one of the above posts, I too am reminded of a scripture...
Proverbs 26:11
Posted by Frank (Member # 6) on June 30, 2013, 07:23 AM:
The U.S. is coasting on the fumes of past greatness, following the Roman road to ruins
By A.D. 200, the Roman republic was a distant memory. Few citizens of the global Roman Empire even knew of their illustrious ancestors such as Scipio or Cicero. Millions no longer spoke Latin. Italian emperors were rare. There were no national elections.
Yet Rome endured as a global power for three more centuries. What held it together?
A stubborn common popular culture and the prosperity of Mediterranean-wide standardization kept things going. The Egyptian, the Numidian, the Iberian and the Greek assumed that everything from Roman clay lamps and glass to good roads and plentiful grain were available to millions throughout the Mediterranean.
As long as the sea was free of pirates, thieves cleared from the roads, and merchants allowed to profit, few cared whether the lawless Caracalla or the unhinged Elagabalus was emperor in distant Rome.
Something likewise both depressing and encouraging is happening to the United States. Few Americans seem to worry that our leaders have lied to or misled Congress and the American people without consequences.
Most young people cannot distinguish the First Amendment from the Fourth Amendment — and do not worry that they cannot. Washington, Jefferson and Lincoln are mere names of grammar schools but otherwise unidentifiable to most.
Separatism is thought to bring dividends. In California, universities conduct separate graduation ceremonies predicated on race — sometimes difficult given the increasingly mixed ancestry of Americans.
As in Rome, there is a vast disconnect between elites and the common people. Almost half of Americans receive some sort of public assistance, and half pay no federal income tax. About one-seventh of Americans are on food stamps.
Yet housing prices in elite enclaves — Manhattan, Cambridge, Santa Monica, Palo Alto — are soaring. The wealthy like to cocoon themselves in Roman-like villas, safe from the real-life ramifications of their own utopian ideology.
The government and the media do their best to spread the ideals of radical egalitarianism while avoiding offense to anyone. There is no official war on terrorism or against radical Islamism. Instead, in “overseas contingency operations,” we fight “man-caused disasters” while at home deal with “workplace violence.”
In news stories that involve crimes with divisive racial themes, the media frequently paper over information about the perpetrators. But that noble restraint only seems to incite readers. In reckless fashion, they often post the most inflammatory online comments about such liberal censorship. Officially, America celebrates diversity; privately, America is fragmenting into racial, political and ideological camps.
Why is the United States not experiencing something like the rioting in Turkey or Brazil, or the killings of thousands in Mexico? How are we able to avoid the bloody chaos in Syria, the harsh dictatorships of Russia and China, the implosion of Egypt or the economic hopelessness now endemic in southern Europe?
About half of America and many of its institutions operate as they always have. Caltech and MIT are still serious. Neither interjects race, class and gender studies into its engineering or physics curricula. Most in the Internal Revenue Service, unlike some of their bosses, are not corrupt. For the well driller, the power plant operator and the wheat farmer, the lies in Washington are still mostly abstractions.
Get up at 5:30 a.m., and you will see that most of the nation’s urban freeways are jammed with hardworking commuters. Every day, they go to work, support their families, pay their taxes and avoid arrest — so that millions of others do not have to do the same. The U.S. military still more closely resembles our heroes from World War II than the culture of the Kardashians.
Like diverse imperial Roman citizens, we are united in some fashion by shared popular tastes and mass consumerism. The cellphones and cars of the poor offer more computing power and better transportation than the aristocracy enjoyed just 20 years ago.
Youths of all races and backgrounds in lockstep fiddle with their smartphones as they walk about. Jeans are an unspoken American uniform — both for the Wall Street grandees and the homeless on the sidewalks. Left, right, liberal, conservative, professor and ditch digger have similar-looking Facebook accounts.
If Rome quieted the people with public spectacles and cheap grain from the provinces, so too Americans of all classes keep glued to favorite video games and reality-TV shows. Fast food is cheap and tasty. All that for now is preferable to rioting and revolt.
Like Rome, America apparently can coast for a long time on the fumes of its wonderful political heritage and economic dynamism — even if both are little understood or appreciated by most who still benefit from them.
Victor Davis Hanson is a classicist and historian at the Hoover Institution at Stanford University.
Posted by Frank (Member # 6) on June 30, 2013, 09:30 AM:
Well, I don't want to be a racist. Never was, really.
I figure if 95% of blacks can vote for hussein obama because of the color of his skin then I can be racist too. It's a sad situation but one you should face up to. The ideal of social integration (the melting pot) isn't working. If you're white, you are a target.
I don't see racism going away in America any time soon.
BTW, my grandmother three generations back was Cherokee. I don't have a problem 1 with Indians, but then I see allot of racism coming from that direction as well.
For example, I was driving thru and Indian reservation and came on a huge white sign that said:
"White Man Not Welcome Here. Go Home".
You should try going into South Central LA one time and demonstrate how tolerant of a person you are. There'll still be a high likelihood you getting shot!
I grew up being anti-racist. No more. I have to protect my income and family from those that would take all I have because I'm white.
Posted by Frank (Member # 6) on July 01, 2013, 06:28 AM:
The difference between the Supreme Court and the Ku Klux Klan is that the members of the Supreme Court dress in black robes and scare white people.
Posted by Frank (Member # 6) on July 01, 2013, 06:32 AM:
Here's an example of racism. It shows a person looking out for people of the same skin color.
Now, who wants to call me a racist without cause?
Here's the link so you'll know what I'm talking about:
http://www.cnn.com/2013/06/30/world/africa/south-africa-obama-pledge/index.html?hpt=hp_t2
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