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Frank
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posted June 26, 2013 10:50 AM
Justice Scalia angrily wrote the following after the SCOTUS legalized same sex marriage:
But to defend traditional marriage is not to condemn, demean, or humiliate those who would prefer other arrangements, any more than to defend the Constitution of the United States is to con- demn, demean, or humiliate other constitutions. To hurl such accusations so casually demeans this institution. In the majority's judgment, any resistance to its holding is beyond the pale of reasoned disagreement. To question its high-handed invalidation of a presumptively valid statute is to act (the majority is sure) with the purpose to "dis- parage," "injure," "degrade," "demean," and "humiliate" our fellow human beings, our fellow citizens, who are homo- sexual. All that, simply for supporting an Act that did no more than codify an aspect of marriage that had been unquestioned in our society for most of its existence— indeed, had been unquestioned in virtually all societies for virtually all of human history. It is one thing for a society to elect change; it is another for a court of law to impose change by adjudging those who oppose it hostes humani generis, enemies of the human race.
He said allot more but this sums up the correct view. I had little respect for two of our branches of government, now I can add a third - The Supreme Court Of The United States. What a bunch of degenerate pukes.
BTW, Justice kennedy wrote the majority opinion to allow same sex marriage. My first thought was "He must be Catholic". I looked on Wikipedia to find out and sure enough.....he's a goddammed Catholic. Don't ask me why I thought this but I was right!
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posted June 26, 2013 12:32 PM
Gov Brown just announced that gay marriage will resume shortly here in Cali. Good times!
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posted June 26, 2013 12:44 PM
Frank,
I guess I fail to see the fact that equating being a 'goddammed' Catholic has anything to do with siding with the queers to marry each other.
I am a 'goddammed' Catholic, conservative, and very proud of it. Our congregation is very conservative as is our priest...in fact, he has gone about as far as he can before he gets into trouble talking about Obamacare, and the various shit our country is facing.
I have a nephew that is a priest and he feels the same way.
Don't in any way lump me into the same putrid bucket of shit with those people that call themselves practical Catholics like Kathleen Sebelius, Joe Biden, Nancy Pelosi and the f'n Kennedys.
I used to like and enjoy your posts up until this comment...don't go down the same road as Timmy from Minnesota...
[ June 26, 2013, 01:01 PM: Message edited by: booger ]
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posted June 26, 2013 01:27 PM
I could not possibly give a fuck less who marries who. It's not any of my business. It's not any of your business. It for fucking sure shouldn't be any of the gov'ts business.
So fags can marry one another and get the same tax deductions as other married people. So what?
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Frank
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posted June 26, 2013 02:53 PM
TOO BIG TO FAIL
I don't know exactly why a Catholic Supreme Court Justice would be so inclined either. That's why I said don't ask me. I've got some operative theories but I haven't yet reached a conclusion (and I do believe in credible conspiracy theories as history is rife with them). The fact he voted for this obamanation just gave a little more credence to my theory.
Hint: It has to do with Protestants, the Papacy, and Catholics. Ever notice how Italy is virtually unaffected by muslim immigration (Italy is predominantly Catholic)?
Ever notice how most South American countries are affected very little by muslim immigration (for predominantly Catholic countries)?
Now ask yourself, Why is it that our politicians almost never go with majority opinion in this country? Illegal immigration is one example...the politicians have ignored the wishes of the American people time and time again when it comes to illegal immigration (most illegals are Catholic).
Is there a link? I'm not sure. Given what I see around the world it sure looks like there's a link.....and through history Catholics have been know to do these type of things (like the inquisition against Protestant England which failed when the Spanish Navy was soundly trounced trying to invade England). There's also a known link between the Pope and Hitler during WWII.
Far fetched? Maybe.
I have long said we need to vote out our entire current crop of politicians. Do you remember when it was said America would never elect a Catholic for president? Did you know JFK was our first Catholic president (he was assassinated). Wasn't it in the 60's when the decline of America started?....like right after Kennedy was elected. Co-incidence? Maybe.
What does it say in the Bible? Matthew 7:20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.
Edit to add:
Operative greeting between Jesuits and Catholic priests: "So...how many little boys have you dorked today"?
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posted June 26, 2013 03:32 PM
I don't think the gov't should be involved in marriage either.
I understand it as a religious ceremony between a man and a woman and God. Just like I wouldn't want them involved in other religous ceremonies, such as Baptisms, bar mitzvahs, or comunions.
Then again I don't feel people should get special privilages from the gov't for being married or baptised, etc...
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posted June 26, 2013 03:42 PM
Frank, as a "god damned Catholic" I was already offended by your comments, BEFORE this bullshit:
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Operative greeting between Jesuits and Catholic priests: "So...how many little boys have you dorked today"?
The part that bothers me about "gay marriage" is how it cheapens an honorable institution. That's what it's all about, they desperately need validation. So, they reinvent human history assisted by PC liberals on the Supreme Court.
It so happens that I spent most of my life not believing the misbehavior going on in the priesthood. Unfortunately, I was wrong. It looks like the celibacy requirements have attracted a certain element. Right away, you wonder about those that enter into a contract with God and vow to abstain from sex, forever.
The priest that married us had movie star good looks, I always wondered if women were throwing themselves at him. He left the priesthood later, I was not surprised. Father OBrian. Have no idea what he's doing today but it has nothing to do with the clergy. Too many distractions for a man with his looks.
Anyway, human beings are apparently not fallible? No surprise there. Look no further than our politicians, Governors, Senators...and Presidents.
I seem to remember a few Protestant clergy that fucked up. Big time. Why single out Catholics? Bullshit, Frank.
Good hunting. El Bee
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posted June 26, 2013 03:46 PM
Frank,
I don't want to derail this thread with my treatise on Catholicism.
A couple of things and I will shut up on this...I don't know that most illegals are Catholic. I know most of the Hispanics in my church are legal, and they feel the same way you and I do about illegals--they have told me.
As far as the Pope being in bed with Hitler...that is no more correct than Neville Chamberlain being in bed with that fanatic. Both the Pope and the time and Chamberlain were trying to appease a tyrant. We know how that turned out for both England and Italy.
Lastly, my initial point was that Justice Kennedy no more embodies a true Catholic perspective than the man in the moon. A liberal is a liberal no matter what religious designation they deem themselves to be.
***Just saw your edit on the priests...that is just wrong.***
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posted June 26, 2013 04:07 PM
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So fags can marry one another and get the same tax deductions as other married people.
Shrink our government, and our tax code, do away with the government trough, and most of these social issues will become non issues. The problem is big gov't.
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posted June 26, 2013 04:16 PM
I did say it's a theory. Would not surprise me in the least were it true. I like to try and"connect the dots" because there ain't no answers coming from anyplace else.
Why is this country in decline? There's a whole slew of reasons.....this latest Supreme Court opinion is one of them. But I can tell you one thing.... The decline didn't just happen on its own. It had to be "helped along".
George Soros, Hollywood, drugs, excessive wealth, turning away from God?
There is a reason for it. I like to ask, who, what, where, and when. And I don't discount anything. Just too much evil in this world for that.
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posted June 26, 2013 04:27 PM
I should also add this country is quickly becoming a Gomorra (if its not already). And we know what happens to a Gomorra.
This country is too strong to be destroyed from without.
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posted June 26, 2013 04:37 PM
excessive wealth,??.
seems to me that those that have earned it have made this the best place on earth??
apathy towards the lazy,ebonic speaking N'rs,lack of respect towards one another have ruined this country. a good older buddy of mine just rewrote his will. he's well off and was gonna leave his church 100,000$. however, he's as sick as i am about these churches sponsering bringing africans over here and letting them live off the taxpayers and withdrew his 1000,000$. good for him.
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Frank
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posted June 26, 2013 04:56 PM
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posted June 26, 2013 06:04 PM
Frank says quote:
My first thought was "He must be Catholic". I looked on Wikipedia to find out and sure enough.....he's a goddammed Catholic. Don't ask me why I thought this but I was right!
I too, am a Catholic, and I am also offended by your BS remarks. One can only wonder what, if any, religion you practice.
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posted June 26, 2013 07:54 PM
I was raised catholic (all the way through conformation) but I really don't consider myself catholic anymore.
I, for one, am NOT offended, because in order to be offended I'd have to give a shit about what Frank thought, wrote, or said, and...I don't.
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posted June 26, 2013 08:58 PM
Well, don't be offended. I am what is derisively called a Truth Seeker. I'm not saying I'm right...what I'm saying is you should look at the totality of it all and come to your own conclusion. I'm only layin it out there. This is something I've contemplated for some time, a theory. This hits home from a historical perspective.
For example, the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1965 was authored by United States Senator Philip Hart of Michigan, and heavily supported by United States Senator Ted Kennedy....both well known Catholics as well as rabidly anti-gun.
Here's the link if you don't believe it:
Immigration and Nationality Act of 1965 - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_and_Nationality_Act_of_1965
I urge you to click on the link and read what this law does....it opened the floodgates.
Now I have to ask, what is the official position of Rome on the Protestants? I mean, what is their stand regarding the beliefs of the Protestant Religions? Don't forget there used to be a lot of killin going on between Catholics and Protestants....even into the modern era in Ireland. Don't forget "Tip" O'Neill - another prominent Catholic - and his support of Irish Catholics with weapons:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tip_O%27Neill
Has the Catholic Church come to accept the legitimacy of Protestants or does the institutional or historic position of the Church remain unchanged?
You tell me...
To be fair this is something the laity would never have knowledge of. Only those at the highest levels would be aware.
What I'm doing is connecting the dots...look at it yourself and decide for yourself if something like this could be true.
I'm Lutheran and well aware of the tricks that come out of Rome.
PS.. I've never engaged in any personal attacks on this board. I discuss/write about ideas.
Edit to add another thought: Protestant Europe is set to go up in flames due to muslim immigration within, what?, maybe two or three generations? Just sayin......
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posted June 26, 2013 09:41 PM
Any chance the queers will breed themselves into extinction?
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posted June 26, 2013 09:59 PM
Between the `Jew Bitch` and the `goddamned Catholic` comments, I wonder if there's anybody that Frank DOESN'T hate????
Pitiful.
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posted June 26, 2013 10:17 PM
I respect people who work and hold American values of freedom. If you try to destroy those freedoms then I hate you. Simple, really.
So here's a story which brings home the consequences of political correctness. Look...... you can't be all gushy mushy in loving all people's of the world. You gotta draw the line somewhere or your gonna get stepped on.
Here's a great example that comes out of Denmark:
Salute the Danish Flag - it's a Symbol of Western Freedom
By Susan MacAllen
In 1978-99 I was living and studying in Denmark. But in 1978 - even in Copenhagen, one didn't see Muslim immigrants. The Danish population embraced visitors, celebrated the exotic, went out of its way to protect each of its citizens. It was proud of its new brand of socialist liberalism one in development since the conservatives had lost power in 1929 - a system where no worker had to struggle to survive, where one ultimately could count upon the state as in, perhaps, no other western nation at the time.
The rest of Europe saw the Scandinavians as free-thinking, progressive and infinitely generous in their welfare policies. Denmark boasted low crime rates, devotion to the environment, a superior educational system and a history of humanitarianism.
Denmark was also most generous in its immigration policies - it offered the best welcome in Europe to the new immigrant: generous welfare payments from first arrival plus additional perks in transportation, housing and education. It was determined to set a world example for inclusiveness and multiculturalism. How could it have predicted that one day in 2005 a series of political cartoons in a newspaper would spark violence that would leave dozens dead in the streets - all because its commitment to multiculturalism would come back to bite?
By the 1990's the growing urban Muslim population was obvious - and its unwillingness to integrate into Danish society was obvious.
Years of immigrants had settled into Muslim-exclusive enclaves. As the Muslim leadership became more vocal about what they considered the decadence of Denmark 's liberal way of life, the Danes - once so welcoming - began to feel slighted. Many Danes had begun to see Islam as incompatible with their long-standing values: belief in personal liberty and free speech, equality for women, tolerance for other ethnic groups, and a deep pride in Danish heritage and history.
An article by Daniel Pipes and Lars Hedegaard, in which they forecasted accurately, that the growing immigrant problem in Denmark would explode. In the article they reported:
'Muslim immigrants constitute 5 percent of the population but consume upwards of 40 percent of the welfare spending. ''Muslims are only 4 percent of Denmark's 5.4 million people but make up a majority of the country's convicted rapists, an especially combustible issue given that practically all the female victims are non-Muslim. Similar, if lesser, disproportions are found in other crimes.'
'Over time, as Muslim immigrants increase in numbers, they wish less to mix with the indigenous population. A recent survey finds that only 5 percent of young Muslim immigrants would readily marry a Dane.' 'Forced marriages - promising a newborn daughter in Denmark to a male cousin in the home country, then compelling her to marry him, sometimes on pain of death - are one problem.'
'Muslim leaders openly declare their goal of introducing Islamic law once Denmark's Muslim population grows large enough - a not-that-remote prospect. If present trends persist, one sociologist estimates, every third inhabitant of Denmark in 40 years will be Muslim.'
It is easy to understand why a growing number of Danes would feel that Muslim immigrants show little respect for Danish values and laws. An example is the phenomenon common to other European countries and Canada: some Muslims in Denmark who opted to leave the Muslim faith have been murdered in the name of Islam, while others hide in fear for their lives. Jews are also threatened and harassed openly by Muslim leaders in Denmark, a country where once Christian citizens worked to smuggle out nearly all of their 7,000 Jews by night to Sweden - before the Nazis could invade. I think of my Danish friend Elsa - who, as a teenager, had dreaded crossing the street to the bakery every morning under the eyes of occupying Nazi soldiers - and I wonder what she would say today.
In 2001, Denmark elected the most conservative government in some 70 years - one that had some decidedly non-generous ideas about liberal unfettered immigration. Today, Denmark has the strictest immigration policies in Europe . (Its effort to protect itself has been met with accusations of 'racism' by liberal media across Europe - even as other governments struggle to right the social problems wrought by years of too-lax immigration.)
If you wish to become Danish, you must attend three years of language classes. You must pass a test on Denmark's history, culture, and a Danish language test.
You must live in Denmark for 7 years before applying for citizenship.
You must demonstrate an intent to work, and have a job waiting. If you wish to bring a spouse into Denmark , you must both be over 24 years of age, and you won't find it so easy anymore to move your friends and family to Denmark with you.
You will not be allowed to build a mosque in Copenhagen, although your children have a choice of some 30 Arabic culture and language schools in Denmark , they will be strongly encouraged to assimilate to Danish society in ways that past immigrants weren't.
In 2006, the Danish minister for employment, Claus Hjort Frederiksen, spoke publicly of the burden of Muslim immigrants on the Danish welfare system, and it was horrifying: the government's welfare committee had calculated that if immigration from Third World countries were blocked, 75 percent of the cuts needed to sustain the huge welfare system in coming decades would be unnecessary. In other words, the welfare system, as it existed, was being exploited by immigrants to the point of eventually bankrupting the government. 'We are simply forced to adopt a new policy on immigration.'
'The calculations of the welfare committee are terrifying and show how unsuccessful the integration of immigrants has been up to now,' he said.
A large thorn in the side of Denmark's imams is the Minister of Immigration and Integration, Rikke Hvilshoj. She makes no bones about the new policy toward immigration, 'The number of foreigners coming to the country makes a difference,' Hvilshoj says, 'There is an inverse correlation between how many come here and how well we can receive the foreigners that come.' And on Muslim immigrants needing to demonstrate a willingness to blend in, 'In my view, Denmark should be a country with room for different cultures and religions. Some values, however, are more important than others. We refuse to question democracy, equal rights, and freedom of speech.'
Hvilshoj has paid a price for her show of backbone. Perhaps to test her resolve, the leading radical imam in Denmark, Ahmed Abdel Rahman Abu Laban, demanded that the government pay blood money to the family of a Muslim who was murdered in a suburb of Copenhagen, stating that the family's thirst for revenge could be thwarted for money. When Hvilshoj dismissed his demand, he argued that in Muslim culture the payment of retribution money was common, to which Hvilshoj replied that what is done in a Muslim country is not necessarily what is done in Denmark.
The Muslim reply came soon after: her house was torched while she, her husband and children slept. All managed to escape unharmed, but she and her family were moved to a secret location and she and other ministers were assigned bodyguards for the first time - in a country where such murderous violence was once so scarce.
Her government has slid to the right, and her borders have tightened. Many believe that what happens in the next decade will determine whether Denmark survives as a bastion of good living, humane thinking and social responsibility, or whether it becomes a nation at civil war with supporters of Sharia law.
And meanwhile, Canadians clamor for stricter immigration policies, and demand an end to state welfare programs that allow many immigrants to live on the public dole.
As we in Canada look at the enclaves of Muslims amongst us, and see those who enter our shores too easily, dare live on our taxes, yet refuse to embrace our culture, respect our traditions, participate in our legal system, obey our laws, speak our language, appreciate our history. We would do well to look to Denmark, and say a prayer for her future and for our own.
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posted June 27, 2013 02:36 AM
Frank you should be thankful you live in this country. Instead of crying and bitching all the time you should be giving thanks you live in a place where you have the right to do so. A little of your bullshit goes along way.
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posted June 27, 2013 06:55 AM
Frank, maybe you should try getting out of bed on the other side a time or two, because from reading what you put on here almost daily, it seems like you hate life every day you wake up. Life's too short to hate life that much.
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posted June 27, 2013 07:18 AM
I don't have any problem pointing out the threat of muslim infiltration. As far as I am concerned, we need more people shouting from the rooftops.
But, I think Frank is doing a bit of misdirection, having stepped in shit over his views on Catholicism.
I do not like to control or moderate political conversation on this Board. Other than interjecting my own views into these conversations, that is.
I think it is not helpful to disparage Jews, Catholics or blacks, just to name a few. If you want to talk about the Muslim threat, be my guest.
Good hunting. El Bee
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posted June 27, 2013 01:38 PM
I don't believe the SCOTUS has legal jurisdiction over this issue. This should be up to the states. The constitution was suppose to limit the powers of the federal government. If Commyfonia wants to allow queers to marry. That is Commyfonia's business, and Leonard can make the choice of when he is finally fed up with all this BS and move to Ariz. If someone wants to go to Colorado and smoke dope let them. If they wish to live in a drug free state they should be allowed to do just that. The states were suppose to have most of the power as per the Constitution.
BTW: I'm not Catholic but I have a picture of Pope John Paul on the wall because he was a great Pope IMHO. I give credit when deserved and bitch if it isn't.
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posted June 27, 2013 06:33 PM
Frank says: quote:
Well, don't be offended. I am what is derisively called a Truth Seeker.
No, you are just FOS.
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posted June 27, 2013 06:56 PM
Leonard
I'm sorry if you or any on this board were (are) offended.
I'm just trying to look out for America and white society.
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