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Posted by Frank (Member # 6) on May 18, 2013, 10:24 AM:
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Posted by DiYi (Member # 3785) on May 19, 2013, 04:24 AM:
Too bad he doesn't know a fucking thing about our military-would at least have some comedic benefit then.
Frank you ever hunt?
Posted by DanS (Member # 316) on May 19, 2013, 07:00 PM:
I thought I heard him say he took an oath, making me believe he served.
If I remember correctly, it was about 40+ years ago when a lot of people refused to serve, I think many of them went to Canada, then later Carter gave them amnesty.
Posted by Frank (Member # 6) on May 20, 2013, 09:47 PM:
DiYi
I've hunted most all of my most productive years.
Looking back I've had some great times.
What rocks me to the core is all the freedoms I've lost here in California in the last 30 years.
I feel sorry for the new generation. They have no idea the freedoms lost because of liberalism.
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Posted by Paul Melching (Member # 885) on May 21, 2013, 04:06 AM:
Frank
I grew up in S. Cal. in the San Fernando Valley
this was in the 50's. I would leave my house on foot or on the ole firestone cruiser in the morning with a fishing pole or a .22 and not return till dusk and my mother never had to worry.
I used to hunt and play in the hills that are now the I-5 freeway. My aunt had a farm on Reseda Blvd. which was a dirt road. Things have changed a lot and not all things for the better. after the freeway came we relocated to the high desert in Antelope valley then I learned to roam the desert.
I am sickened to see the world we are leaving to our grandchildren. edit to add I like Az. better
but its changed a lot in the last 18 years. Our nation is in peril big time.
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Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on May 21, 2013, 07:02 AM:
I could have wrote most of what Melching said. I used to hunt pheasants in the Rio Hondo River, overgrown with giant bamboo, right where they (one day) would build the San Bernardino Freeway, I-10.
I would be surprised if anybody else in my neighborhood hunts? But it's pretty much all Republican. How that happened, I have not a clue?
Good hunting. El Bee
Posted by DiYi (Member # 3785) on May 21, 2013, 07:44 AM:
Frank,
No sweat,I'm just touchy about military issues.
Just too damn much 'cry wolf' shit from both extremes when reality as usual is somewhere in between.
The idea a few homo's in the military will destroy it is absurd and does a great injustice to the military IMO.As to running to Canada,that was my generation unfortunately and there still are classmates I refuse to talk to because of it.F em.Contrast that to our now all volunteer forces and waiting lists to get on the elite Sp Forces and into combat.
The threat to the military comes from both 'sides' of the isle and generally involves $$.Too much spent on irrational procurement(damn little rational spending control)and too little on the service people themselves.This in part forces many to go on multiple deployments to their economic and familial detriment and in some cases 'retirement' even though reluctantly.
Back to the 'homo' thing.Not to worry,our forces kill plenty of them in Afghanistan.The latest incident I ran across was a couple days ago while reading 'Team Reaper' a new Afghan conflict book about Ranger Snipers.(wish I could figure out how to copy and post excerpts from my Kindle!!!)Great stuff and I'll type a brief quote:
"The enemy had no idea that we were in the field until it was too late and received a greeting from .223 and 7.62 bullets at close range.It had turned out that we had walked into a Taliban group that was having sex.Literally!
Many of the Taliban believed that sex for pleasure was to be practiced amongst men and that sex for reproduction was reserved for women.The men that were shot and killed by the assault were still partially naked and had condoms on,as they lay near their weapons.The ones that managed to run out of the field were met by a small team of Rangers with assault rifles on the outskirts of the woodline and quickly killed."
Continued good hunting to them and all!
Posted by the bearhunter (Member # 3552) on May 21, 2013, 08:03 AM:
DiYi, nothing about goats n camels?? ![[Eek!]](eek.gif)
Posted by nd coyote killer (Member # 40) on May 21, 2013, 03:58 PM:
DiYi could you please provide full title and author of that book please i can't get enough of that material.
Posted by DiYi (Member # 3785) on May 21, 2013, 04:15 PM:
ND,
Got lots of recent good ones.
The one requested is 'Team Reaper(3rd Ranger Battalions Deadliest Sniper Team')by Nicholas Irving.
The one I'm reading right now is very good."Afghan Heat:SAS Operations in Afghanistan" by Steve Stone.
The SAS is very nasty.They do some of the toughest,dirtiest work there.
Others read recently:
'Dead Center:A Marine Snipers Two Year Odyssey' by Ed Kugler.
'Every Day is Monday:US Marine Snipers in Iraq' by Jason Raab.
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on May 21, 2013, 08:29 PM:
"'Dead Center:A Marine Snipers Two Year Odyssey' by Ed Kugler."
I read that one quite a while ago. I have talked to Ed, we have a mutual friend.
Good hunting. El Bee
Posted by Kokopelli (Member # 633) on May 21, 2013, 09:37 PM:
American Sniper by Chris Kyle; damn good read!!!
Posted by nd coyote killer (Member # 40) on May 21, 2013, 10:03 PM:
I've read Chris' book.
Thanks Dick i will look into those
Posted by DiYi (Member # 3785) on May 22, 2013, 04:59 AM:
LB,
Nice you could meet him.Impressive guy to say the least.His post Vietnam career(s)are almost as fascinating.
One of my favorite quotes from the epilogue to the book:
"If I came home with one passion in life,it was the passion to stop the bullshit wherever I find it.This passion extended to the bullshit in corporate America and severely slowed my career at times.But hey,it was the same bullshit that killed more people in Vietnam than all the bullets the enemy ever sent our way".
ND,
I'll try remember to send a pile of good books back with Dave soon and he can get them to you.Just gathering dust here now that I have the Kindle.
Posted by Cdog911 (Member # 7) on May 22, 2013, 03:25 PM:
I've been told by a litany of guys I know who have either been deployed "there" (Iraq or Afghanistan) or have worked there under contract that what we define as homosexual behavior is the norm amongst single men. Commonplace to the point of no shame, in fact. Once a man is married, he is not to partake in relations with other men, but many of them keep a "house boy" around, "just in case".
Tell me again why we fight FOR this place instead of just erasing it from the face of the earth. Sodom and Gomorrah (sp?).
Posted by Frank (Member # 6) on May 22, 2013, 08:12 PM:
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