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Posted by Possumal (Member # 823) on February 10, 2013, 09:18 PM:
Did any of you guys see the special about Clint Romesha, next recipient of the Congressional Medal of Honor. That young man is an inspiration to everyone. Their determination to recover all their dead and wounded was impressive to say the least.
Posted by JP (Member # 4095) on February 10, 2013, 09:40 PM:
It is not, repeat not, the "Congressional" Medal of Honor! Let's not give them idiots more credit than what is due. It is Medal of Honor period, each branch can award it and the congressional idiots have no say in the matter.
[ February 10, 2013, 09:43 PM: Message edited by: JP ]
Posted by Possumal (Member # 823) on February 11, 2013, 09:43 AM:
American Heritage Dictionary:
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The highest U.S. military decoration, awarded in the name of Congress to members of the armed forces for gallantry and bravery beyond the call of duty in action against an enemy.
Posted by DiYi (Member # 3785) on February 11, 2013, 10:02 AM:
I saw it Al,good stuff.Wonderful young man.
Posted by JP (Member # 4095) on February 11, 2013, 11:09 AM:
Please pay attention to the last paragraph. I have had the privilege of knowing two MofH recipients and nowhere in the written order awarding the medal is there any reference to congressional.
The Medal of Honor is the United States of America's highest military honor, awarded for personal acts of valor above and beyond the call of duty. The medal is awarded by the President of the United States in the name of Congress to US military personnel only. There are three versions of the medal, one for the Army, one for the Navy, and one for the Air Force. Personnel of the Marine Corps and Coast Guard receive the Navy Medal of Honor.
The Medal of Honor is usually presented by the President at the White House in a formal ceremony intended to represent the gratitude of the American people, with posthumous presentations made to the primary next of kin.[5][6] In 1990, Congress designated March 25 annually as "National Medal of Honor Day".[7] Due to its prestige and status, the Medal of Honor is afforded special protection under U.S. law against any unauthorized adornment, sale or manufacture, which includes any associated ribbon or badge.[8]
Although the medal is sometimes referred to as the Congressional Medal of Honor, the original and official name is simply the "Medal of Honor
Posted by Possumal (Member # 823) on February 11, 2013, 01:01 PM:
Better do some more research:
http://www.cmohs.org/
Posted by Chris S (Member # 3888) on February 11, 2013, 01:14 PM:
Al, maybe you should do some research... JP is correct, you are wrong.
http://www.hoax-slayer.com/medal-of-honor-name-confusion.shtml
Posted by JP (Member # 4095) on February 11, 2013, 01:24 PM:
Al - The page you reference is the "society" of congressional medal of honor. On the first page it makes reference to several recipients and nowhere does it say congressional medal of honor, it is just refereed to as the medal of honor.
From the page you referenced:
On December 9, 1861 Iowa Senator James W. Grimes introduced S. No. 82 in the United States Senate, a bill designed to "promote the efficiency of the Navy" by authorizing the production and distribution of "medals of honor". On December 21st the bill was passed, authorizing 200 such medals be produced "which shall be bestowed upon such petty officers, seamen, landsmen and marines as shall distinguish themselves by their gallantry in action and other seamanlike qualities during the present war (Civil War)." President Lincoln signed the bill and the (Navy) Medal of Honor was born.
[ February 11, 2013, 01:37 PM: Message edited by: JP ]
Posted by Possumal (Member # 823) on February 11, 2013, 02:44 PM:
I think if you dig far enough, you'll find out that either term is acceptable. If the term "Congressional Medal of Honor" is bogus, the whole society formed with that name must be bogus.
I wasn't trying to start a discussion on what to call the honor Romesha is receiving, but I was putting emphasis on his well deserved honor.
Posted by Possumal (Member # 823) on February 11, 2013, 02:49 PM:
Here is a little more "Incorrect" information about the Congressional Medal of Honor:
The Congressional Medal of Honor is the United States’ highest award granted to members of the Armed Services for valor in action against enemy forces. During the Civil War Gideon Welles, Secretary of Navy, developed an award for heroism by enlisted men. On December 21, 1861 President Abraham Lincoln signed an resolution establishing the Navy Medal of Honor, this was the precursor to the Congressional Medal of Honor, which would be established on July 12, 1862. In the National Defense Act of 1916 Congress redefined the criteria for award of the Medal, limiting it to members of the Armed Services for acts of extreme valor in action against enemy forces. A committee of five retired Army Generals was impaneled to review and evaluate the citation for every medal that had awarded to that point to see if the recipient was qualified under the new criteria. The panel’s recommendations are often referred to as the Purge of 1917. It resulted in 911 citations being vacated and the recipients being requested to permanently surrender their medals. The Federal Charter for the Congressional Medal of Honor Society was signed by President Eisenhower on August 5, 1958. The Society’s main mission is to protect the integrity of the Medal. The first Congressional Medal of Honor Day was declared by Congress in 1991, however it wouldn’t be recognized as a permanent holiday until action by the 110th Congress in 2007.
Posted by JP (Member # 4095) on February 11, 2013, 04:09 PM:
Posted by JP (Member # 4095) on February 11, 2013, 04:13 PM:
Al – I’ll try this one more time. When a soldier is awarded the Medal of Honor a written Special Order is issued in accordance with Army Regulation 600-8-22, no place in the regulation is the medal referred to as “Congressional”. The medal itself was authorized by congress due to the fact that there are some monetary privileges and admittance to the military academies by children of recipients. Hence those who know no better refer to it as Congressional Medal of Honor. Either term is NOT acceptable or it would be clearly stated in each military branch’s regulations – it is not. If you go back to your reference of the Congressional Medal of Honor Society you will note that even they have singled out Medal of Honor with different coloring in their header.
This is a sacred award to the military and our country and it should be addressed by the proper name. I didn’t mean to take anything away from this young man who earned the award, it just really pisses me off that people don’t know what it is. Like I said before I am honored to know and served with two men who have earned the MofH. At a formal dinner in honor of one of them I sat across from a Congressman with the MofH recipient sitting beside him. The illiterate congressman referred to it as the Congressional MofH, the recipient quickly and without mixing any words corrected him and then changed tables. Unfortunately I was stuck at the table with the idiot for the rest of the evening.
From the Army Regulation.
3–2. Decorations authorized and order of precedence
a. The U.S. Army decorations authorized and the order of precedence are as follows:
(1) Medal of Honor.
(2) Distinguished Service Cross.
(3) Distinguished Service Medal.
(4) Silver Star.
(5) Legion of Merit.
(6) Distinguished Flying Cross.
(7) Soldier’s Medal.
(8) Bronze Star Medal.
(9) Meritorious Service Medal.
(10) Air Medal.
(11) Army Commendation Medal.
(12) Army Achievement Medal.
Posted by Possumal (Member # 823) on February 11, 2013, 05:45 PM:
Don't understand words like "Precursor"?
Posted by Chris S (Member # 3888) on February 11, 2013, 06:27 PM:
Al is currently playing the part of TA waving his speaker over his head. Not a clue what is going on, or won't admit he's wrong. Lol.
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