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Kokopelli
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posted May 01, 2012 06:18 AM
My neighbor took off & entrusted his animals to some dip-stick that let the water go dry. A couple of days later a sorry looking half grown pit bull showed up on my patio. A clumsy mutt that just wants to play & get attention if ever there was one. Against good advice from a friend of mine, I'm keeping the critter.
So..............anybody have any experience with this breed?? Anything I need to do or watch out for?? It's nice to have a dog again, but I'm not sure that this one came with a brain. It seems to have had zero training.
Thanx!!!
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posted May 01, 2012 06:39 AM
My sister had one when we were younger because she just HAD to have one. I had heard the horror stories so I was skeptical and didnt like it much to begin with. BUT it turned out to be a great dog. Got along with my Lab and my parents Bischon. One night came home late and let the dogs out. The pit and lab came out of the yard but the bichon didnt. Pit bull had mauled it by the neck. Granted I dont have much use for a Bichon and dispise little barky dogs. It was still shocking that it happened.
My one word of advice is that when they snap they snap. They are prone to it and it happens, thats a fact. I would never in my life let one around kids. They can be great dogs and I was attached to it a little but that one momment they lose it can be the death of a kid. Not worth it IMO
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posted May 01, 2012 06:59 AM
They can be GREAT pets and family dogs.
Pitbulls are just dogs, but they are very powerful & capable of doing alot of damage in a very short time.
And, given the origin of the breed, I'd ALWAYS remain wary of a pitbull around other dogs. They tend to be very trusting of people and will allow kids to literally maul them without reaction.
If you keep the dog, spay/neuter immediately.
Also, buy you a "breaking stick" online and learn how to use it. Carry it along on walks, and have it close by the house.
Heaven forbid your dog clamps down on something it shouldn't, you'll be well capable of ending it quickly...
If your dog shows ANY kind of aggression toward you, or especially toward a child, CULL IT. I never faulted a dog for barking at strangers at home, that's natural protective behavior. But human aggression cannot be tolerated AT ALL.
You will want to start in on basic obedience right away. Being as strong as they are, you don't want to be towed around during a walk. And you certainly don't want an intimidating dog jumping up on strangers!!!
Praise the good behavior, correct the bad. When you correct bad behavior, ALWAYS show the dog what the right behavior is, then give praise to make a dimple in that brain & end on a positive note!
IE, dog jumps up, it is wanting attention. So simply correct the jumping with leash and say "NO jump!"
Give "SIT" command, then praise that good behavior. Now the dog gets the attention it wants, but under YOUR rules. Even block headed pitbulls learn this stuff, trust me ![[Wink]](wink.gif)
Remember, a tired dog is a happy dog!
Pitbulls have HUGE gas tanks, so give it lots of exercise to burn that energy off.
This is an old pic of one of my bulldogs.
He had an A+++ personality with people!
good luck, dude!
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posted May 01, 2012 07:41 AM
I've had bulldog, and bulldog crosses over the years. I never had problems with aggression towards people. I have seen them show aggression to other dogs though. Fred gives some excellent advice. Bull dogs are not for a 'novice' dog owner, or for someone who wants to be a part time owner.
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posted May 01, 2012 08:00 AM
My sister is a true-blue dog lover. She has had a couple pit bull's over the years. The first one was always timid as heck and when it died she replaced it with another pit four years ago.
The second pit, just a few months ago, turned on one of her dachhunds and killed it while she was at work. She said there had been a few small signs of aggression over the past couple of years, but she did not think it would happen as these two dogs had been together for several years.
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posted May 01, 2012 09:01 AM
I'll echo what Fred said. A terrier is a terrier is a terrier. I've lived with a pit bull for 16 or 18 years now I guess. Not the same one. First one was a neutered male and he died a few years ago. He was dumb as a box of rocks, but still a great pet, pal, and companion. Got along great with my Aussie, but while staying with my brother once, got into an altercation with his boston TERRIER. That didn't end well for the little dog. I never saw any aggression in Wyatt, but he would only take so much from other dogs before he reacted. I know in my heart that the little dog started that fray, but Wyatt ended it and there were no witnesses. My Aussie is a better watch dog and more defensive of his territory than Wyatt ever thought about being. Wyatt would have invited a burglar in, but his looks deterred.
The one that lives here now is a spayed female and she's quite a bit more gifted in the smarts department. A little more protective of our space, but still a great pet.
They are powerful and have a very high pain tolerance. Unless you're lucky and have one that responds well, once something starts, it can be very hard to stop and can very easily end badly. I liken living with a pit bull to being a gun owner, except the pit bull can go off by itself. Responsibility is the key. Don't allow things to happen that can go badly for you or the dog. Expect the best, but have a contingency for the worst. Socialize the dog, but prevent situations that could get either of you into trouble. Being a pit bull's human comes with a moral obligation to keep it from becoming THAT dog. In the end, it's just a dog, and dogs do what they do. Bad dogs come in all shapes and sizes. So do good ones.
Stereotyping and profiling have ruined the breed's reputation. It's up to their human counterpart to help with that. First it was German Shepards, then it was Doberman Pinschers, then Rottwielers, now pits. They're all products of their environment and human counterpart. Petey, from the Little Rascals, was a pit bull. Nobody was scared of him.
I rarely participate in discussions about pit bulls, especially over the internet. No doubt that a K9 racist will say that the entire breed should be exterminated. They may have what they feel is very good reason to say that. But making a blanket statement about a breed that I have compassion and affection for is akin to saying something about someone's kid. Emotions run high.
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posted May 01, 2012 09:12 AM
My terriers will make short work of small animals, unfortunately some peoples pets fall into that catagory, be careful. I'm a little more tolerant on the "people aggression" issue.....if you come to my house when I'm gone and you survive you WILL need stitches, if you come to my house when I'm home you will need a towel to get all the slobbers off your face, terriers are very smart and loving but they also love to kill things.....don't forget that. They also have more character than a lot of other dog breeds......you'll either love it or hate it, Terriers are not for wussies or people with no time.
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posted May 01, 2012 09:33 AM
If you've got 15 minutes or so, here's a little pit bull humor...
I got a dog!
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Leonard
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posted May 01, 2012 11:25 AM
Okay, maybe I need sensitivity training? But, when it comes to man's best friend, I have a hard time with breeds that have a reputation for killing humans, without provocation. And, yes, it happens.
I just wonder, the world is full of companion dogs, dogs that would do anything for a little praise and a scratch behind the ear. And, I am a dog person, in spite of the fact that I have my wife's cat, I think a lot more of dogs than cats.
My son has four dogs, two Chihuahuas, a lab/german Shepard mix and what "looked" to me like a pit bull? A rescue dog that was abandoned and left at a Vet by a neighbor. But, son said she's a sweet dog and she's a bulldog, not a pit bull. Well, I found out that she does have a sweet disposition, but she sorta looks like a pitbull and me with my preconceived ideas, I just don't like aggressive dogs, and aggressive looking dogs.
Perhaps a flaw in my character, I don't know, but hey some people don't like poodles and other little yappers. I
I remember walking down the street in the old neighborhood, years ago. There wasn't a sidewalk and I was between the pavement and a lawn when a large boxer type of dog came running up to me, viscously barking at me from extremely close proximity. I stopped and faced the dog and the owner was on his steps, at the house watching the whole thing.
As I tried to move, the dog maintained his threatening position and I was beginning to think that I might have to fight and kill this dog while the owner watched, amused.
I asked him to curb his dog and the guy said, "hey, he is on his property". This response forced me into traffic and the middle of the street, so I turned around and went back home instead of over to the Little League field when I was headed. What I REALLY wanted to do was get a gun and walk past that house again and blow the shit out of that miserable animal in front of the horrified and ignorant owner, but that would wind up ruining my day, too.
So, the problem is people that own aggressive dogs and they do not get sued enough. I don't know what it is about people that need a dog that is so aggressive toward humans, but that behavior does get passed along in the genes and this is where my natural love for "man's best friend" is tempered with a strong desire to put a bullet in the head of dogs that threaten people, and I do not give a shit about those that talk about protecting their house and property and never give any thought that the animal can't figure out every situation.
My niece, Susan. When she was about seven or so, she went into the back yard, across the street to play with the neighbor girl. Well, their German Shepard attacked Susan and practically tore her scalp off, requiring something less than 200 stitches, (luckily) all of them within the hairline so it didn't show. She's in her forties, now.
But, this girl was/is a bad seed, always doing something bizarre. I can't really go into the things she has done but it's extensive, AND. I blame it all on the traumatic event of the dog mauling when she was a child.
Well, I have mentioned her before, she was in "juvie" for several years and managed to get her hands on her settlement money on the day she turned 18 and was released from jail. I don't have any proof, but I think that little girl became emotionally scarred by the mauling and it has impacted her entire life.
Vicious dogs, I do not like them. Vicious breeds, I think I'm guilty of stereotyping?
Good hunting. LB
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posted May 01, 2012 11:58 AM
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posted May 01, 2012 04:27 PM
I'm a mailman. 'Nuff said, but I'll still say more.
I hate pits. Sure, maybe at one time or another, they were a great family animal. But, thanks to generation after generation of assholes selectively breeding them to be four-legged phallic symbols, I guess I'm what has been called here a K9 racist.
Fact is, we have more problems these days with boxers, but only because even walking down the street with a partial pit will land you in jail in this town, and any dog that even charges me as Leonard decribed will put its owner before the local magistrate who has been very mailman friendly since I began my job 14 years ago. I've personally been credited with sending four different dogs to the gas chamber, and only one of them actually got hold of me. After that one, the boss asked me if I was okay to keep carrying and I told him that I kill "dogs" for fun and recreation. Let me carry something with a bit more bite than the weak-assed pepper spray they give us and I could guaran-damned-tee him that once word got around, there wouldn't be so much as a hint of a dog problem in this town for some time.
Fact is, I used to select hound pups at 5 weeks old by putting them down and seeing what they did. A pup is a product of its breeding, and the best pups would put that little nose on the ground and begin "hunting", even if they didn't know what they were doing it for. In the absence of the very best discipline and training, a dog will do what it is hard wired and bred to do. Often with disastrous results. It would only take once. And FYI, if your dog displays aggressively toward a person with legitimate reasons for being there, at least in Kansas, you will be cited for possession of a viscious animal, your animal will be seized, often euthenized, and your homeowner's insurance company will be sued by the Postal Service and, in most cases, your insurance will be canceled until they receive proof that the dog has been put down or removed from the property. Seen it happen many times.
Having an animal around that could possibly "go off" at any moment for reasons you and I can't always discern is, IMO, grossly irresponsible and a huge liability exposure, not to mention the impact it has on the victim. Trust me when I say that each and every one of you has someone at your front door or near your home six days a week, and he or she has every right to be there doing their job. Whether that's the mailman, the meter reader, water department guy, paperboy, whoever, just because you aren't home doesn't mean there aren't people around there for legitimate reasons. Do you trust that dog enough to allow it to make its own judgment calls and keep your butt out of prison? You are criminally responsible for the actions of your animal and nearly 3000 mail carriers a year are attacked and injured by "pets" even after the owner says, "don't worry, he won't bite." Like hell!
Kill 'em all.
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posted May 01, 2012 05:09 PM
gotta agree with cdog.
i personally have very limited experience with pitts and i don't want any.
gang bangers and hog hunters use them. 1 for utility use the other to be "cool".
ANY breed can have a bad egg. Pitts seem to have a higher % rate.
you do not know the history of this dog or it's liniage. :finder beware:. personally, no matter how friendly it seems to be now, i would not hesitate to terminate it's existance. not worth the HUGE finacial loss you may occur if something happens
get a lab pup!!
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posted May 01, 2012 07:05 PM
Like I said, this bulldog is very good with the Chihuahuas, it definitely has a pleasant disposition, but it looks a lot like a pitbull, if you ask me? I can't really see it going off on somebody, but I suspect there are thousands of owners that never thought their dog would snap and turn viscous. And, this thing is powerfully built, if she wanted to, she could kill both small dogs and the cats without working up a sweat.
I know it's terrible to stereotype dogs, but I really think we could do without them. By the way, pits, rottweilers and dobermans are the three dogs the Army will not transport, to Alaska or Europe. Sounds like the Army stereotypes, too.
Good hunting. El Bee
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posted May 01, 2012 08:38 PM
Much thanx for the replies.
I now have the back yard / patio area closed off & the dog no longer runs loose, unlike half the dogs in this county.
I spoke with the former owner & was assured that the dog is pedigreed & has papers & all of that stuff that doesn't impress me much.
So far, it's a slobber monster that's good with the cats, but the wife & I have agreed that at the first sign of aggression the animal gets put down.
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posted May 01, 2012 09:20 PM
An interesting thing about this pitbull looking bulldog. She has the heart and instincts of a BIRD DOG! I have noticed the attention she gives to all kinds of birds and it's "lock on" just like a friggin' pointer. Kind of funny looking, but I really think this dog would be a hell of a bird dog; although I don't have a clue if she would retrieve?
I had a poodle, years ago that was a hell of a bird dog. OMG, quick and protective of her food bowl, she had great instincts. My coon hound was actually afraid of birds. As a pup, she was sniffing a little parakeet and it bit her right on the nose. That did it. Never even bothered to look at any bird again, scared of them....also kind of funny.
Good hunting. LB
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posted May 01, 2012 10:24 PM
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Having an animal around that could possibly "go off" at any moment for reasons you and I can't always discern is, IMO, grossly irresponsible and a huge liability exposure, not to mention the impact it has on the victim. Trust me when I say that each and every one of you has someone at your front door or near your home six days a week, and he or she has every right to be there doing their job. Whether that's the mailman, the meter reader, water department guy, paperboy, whoever, just because you aren't home doesn't mean there aren't people around there for legitimate reasons. Do you trust that dog enough to allow it to make its own judgment calls and keep your butt out of prison? You are criminally responsible for the actions of your animal and nearly 3000 mail carriers a year are attacked and injured by "pets" even after the owner says, "don't worry, he won't bite." Like hell!
NO, YOU DON'T HAVE a Right to be on my property. We don't get the paper, the mailbox is at the road, we have our own well, there is no gas meter and the electric meter is at the road too, not to mention my dogs are NEVER loose so if you enter my house I can guaran-damn-tee that you WILL in fact get your ass bit and I'll be sure to give them a scooby snack for doing a good job of it and the only law suit will be when you sue me for kicking your ass for breaking and entering.....that is if you survive the dogs....I would never beat a man that was on his death bed but I wouldn't have a problem putting the boots to some dipshit who was only bleeding profusely after breaking and entering.
![[Smile]](smile.gif) Of course I'm only pokin at ya Lance....I fully understand what your talking about and support what your saying under those circustances but not everyone with dog is a dipshit just because you have to deal with a few.
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posted May 01, 2012 11:43 PM
I really like dogs. Dogs have been molded and shaped, (bizarrely, in some cases) by humans into an endless variety by appearance and by talent and ability.
It's just great to see highly trained and gifted dogs in the field. Seeing Eye dogs, and others specially trained even to detect cancer, it seems there is no end to the dog's dedication and actual devotion to mankind.
I just can't square that service and devotion with these fucking Premo canera(sp) types that those two San Francisco assholes allowed to kill a neighboring apartment dweller. (possibly because she was lesbian?) Okay, I don't know how much time they served but the dogs are an abomination, in my eyes. You might as well have a god damned bengal tiger on a leash.
I have seen black boys with pit bulls on a rope encourage their dogs to intimidate other dogs. Yeah, seen it myself, and it's sick. The dogs think they are doing something their owners want them to do, perfectly understandable and done everyday, except the aggression that is being encouraged is like a time bomb. Part of the culture; a sorry ass part of the culture.
I blame the humans but what do you do with their creations? The pounds and humane society's are flooded with pit bulls that they can't place, and won't place and unfortunately, a lot of these dogs are innocent, and good natured, and some aren't. Unfortunate.
Good hunting. LB
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posted May 02, 2012 06:52 AM
It is my strong opinion that pit bulls, Rotwielers, and Doberman's should be banned from the city limits.
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posted May 02, 2012 09:03 AM
Koko, I think I can see where you're coming from on this situation and wish you the best.
That being said, I'm with Mr Cronks statement.
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posted May 02, 2012 11:37 AM
I suspect that the laws of genetics rule with Pit Bulls in the same manner as other species. My soninlaw, Daryl, and his brother, Shawn, have been raising pit bulls for over 30 years, with not once instance of bad behavior. They are very strict with their bloodlines and protecting same. Furthermore, two kennel owners in Florida have had the same record raising dogs out of the same bloodlines, with no outcrosses to unknown bloodlines. I feel sure the owners have a lot to do with the temperament of the dogs of they raise. You can raise a beagle to be mean as hell if you choose to.
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posted May 02, 2012 12:55 PM
True enough, Al. But, a Beagle doesn't have the strength of jaw, nor the instinct to go for the throat as does the pit bull. All you have to do is a very cursory examination of history and the record. What were pit bulls bred and trained to do? There you go. You can dress them with ribbons and bows for twenty years and they still have the instinct. To kill.
Whereas, what is a Beagle bred and trained to do? Wag his tail and chase squirrels.
It's a pretty simple concept, really.
Good hunting. LB
edit: PS what is the attraction with pit bulls? To my eyes, they are very unattractive dogs. You know how an Afghan is just a gorgeous dog? Like, is a Golden Retriever (whatever their shortcomings) they are a beautiful breed. I could name many more but what is there to admire about a pit bull? Personally, I think they are particularly ugly, so apparently? people keep them because of what they can do. Which is; kill. Or, where is my logic flawed?
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posted May 02, 2012 02:29 PM
JD,
All I can say is Fed Ex, UPS, your rural carrier and any LEO that might be there to serve papers, or deliver a package that won't fit in your mailbox or someone who mistakes your house as someone else's. I've had dogs come through picture windows and storm doors to get me before. I know you're just yanking my chain, but I have over 400 dogs of various sizes and temperaments on my route and certain breeds are notoriously bad, and certain owners know just enough to be dangerous when it comes to handling their animals and what they are convinced their dog either is or is not capable of doing.
An example. About twenty years ago, I was on duty at EMS when we were toned out to a rural address for a child that had been bit by a dog. Turns out this 4 year old had been at her grandparent's farm where they were caring for the girl's uncle's Akita. The dog was probably 75 pounds, the girl, maybe 45. When we got there, the "dog bite" was actually a full blown mauling and you couldn't even tell what the girl looked like due to blood, swelling and trauma. We had to fully immobilize her due to the fact that her entire head, neck and face were torn to hell.
At the hospital, while we're putting our truck back together, grandpa comes out to thank us for our response. He tells me that he doesn't understand why the dog snapped. After all, his son had trained it as an attack dog but it had never been vicious. I asked him if his son was a professional dog trainer and he said no, he'd just been training him to attack. Well, having had some experience with hounds, and knowing a lot of k9 officers with truly trained and certified dogs,I know a little bit about training dogs so I told him that a properly trained "attack dog", if such a thing actually exists, is not allowed to make the decision to violently attack a human being unless given the command to do so. Sure, there are times, such as when the handler is attacked and he hits the panic button on his belt that opens his patrol unit door to let the dog out, that a dog can act on its own, but for the most part, the dog is required to do only what its handler commands it to do, and most of those commends are taught and learned in a foreign language to prevent just anyone from confusing the dog. Most I've seen were trained in Dutch.
If I had a trained security dog in my house, it would be trained and certified to hold an intruder at bay until such time as the intruder attacked someone in my family, or to intimidate without injuring, but to allow the dog to exercise its own judgment in who to attack and who not to attack, when and when not, is, for lack of a better name, a shit volcano waiting to erupt. Just my additional .04.
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posted May 02, 2012 02:35 PM
As with many things, beauty is in the eye of the beholder...
I admire the powerful physique and bulging muscles on these dogs. Afghans and Goldens don't do much for me. Go figure?
I used to be a paperboy for several years back in the dark ages when young kids were allowed to do that sort of thing. You know, overload a bike with newspapers, and then ride unescorted through the neighborhood without a helmet. I even suffered a few dog bites. Nothing that ever required anything more than basic first aid. Police and paramedics would probably be needed these days....and an injury specialist law firm. After somebody told me and my parents that bite incidents were required to be reported to rabies control by law, a couple of the offenders had to undergo house arrest for a period of time. Never any legal action though. Damn, missed my chance to have somebody's pet executed. What a great accomplishment that would have been.
I guess I'm just more open to the idea that a certain breed isn't automatically a flesh tearing landshark. Breeding may give them the physiology to be very good at it, but piece of shit humans bring/brought it out. Gun analogy again...just because Jered Loughner went nuts with a Glock in Tucson doesn't mean every Glock owner will. So should we ban Glocks and destroy them all, or can the vast majority of owners be responsible with them?
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posted May 02, 2012 02:38 PM
Leonard, I understand the difference in power potential between a pit bull and a beagle, but I am pointing out the difference in genetics within a breed. Daryl and Shawn have raised some beautiful pit bulls, smart as can be too. I don't believe it is just good luck that their dogs are consistently well mannered.
P.S. All our beagles just naturally ran rabbits (lol)
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posted May 02, 2012 02:56 PM
I'm a dog lover Lance but if I was in your position I would kill all of em, most every dog is territorial and your job require you to be on their home turf.....what a pain for you.
BTW, my dogs aren't mean or aggressive unless you enter my house without one of us being there, the house is locked so any intruder would be unwise to proceed after hearing the warnings.
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