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Leonard
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Icon 6 posted April 30, 2012 12:02 PM      Profile for Leonard   Author's Homepage   Email Leonard         Edit/Delete Post 
GARFIELD COUNTY , UTAH – A Maine woman was rescued Saturday after she was stranded for four days in a remote area of the Utah desert without food in what authorities call "truly a miraculous survival," Fox 13 reports.
59-year-old Victoria Grover was only planning on taking a short day hike while on a trip to Garfield County, Utah Tuesday, but when she did not make it back to her car before dark she decided to spend the night camping in the desert.

When Grover began the hike back in the morning, she landed wrong when jumping off a four-foot ledge and broke her leg above the ankle.
“I was working my way back to the trail head and I jumped about three or four feet and there was a rock under the sand, it hit my leg and I had a broken leg,” Grover told Fox 13.

Grover, who suffers from Type 2 diabetes, was able to create a splint from her walking stick and crawled to a nearby creek for water.
The veteran outdoor enthusiast survived by sleeping in shade during the day and staying awake while curled up in a poncho at night. The poncho helped save her life by serving as a wind breaker, she said, adding it was the only extra warm clothing she carried.

"The hunger is something that comes in waves. You get hungry and want to eat everything and then it goes away," Grover told The Associated Press. "The worst thing is the cold. It never warmed up except for a few hours in the afternoon."
Grover said the hardest night was the last one before she was rescued, as she believes she began to suffer from hypothermia.

“I certainly could have died out there because I had hypothermia and I stopped shivering,” Grover told Fox 13. “I had faith I would be found and I also by that point, I was at peace, that whatever happened would be okay.”
The Boulder Mountain Guest Ranch, where Grover was staying, called authorities Thursday when she failed to check-out as scheduled. Police were able to track her car using her rental car agreement, and eventually found her Sunday morning.

Grover is expected to remain in the hospital for a few days for treatment for her broken leg and exposure. She finally got to enjoy her first meal Sunday night.
"Before that, I was dreaming of oranges, which is one of my favorite foods," she said. "But there are people who can go for weeks and weeks without food in this world. We have it easy in America."
Grover says despite her ordeal, she has no plans to stop hiking.

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Az-Hunter
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Icon 1 posted April 30, 2012 04:54 PM      Profile for Az-Hunter           Edit/Delete Post 
Sounds like the ole gal did pretty well really, I don't know what else she could have done differently, except have a cell phone, but hey, I don't have one either, so I can't fault her.
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Kokopelli
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Icon 1 posted April 30, 2012 05:14 PM      Profile for Kokopelli   Author's Homepage           Edit/Delete Post 
Jumping off of 4 foot ledges at 59 years of age????
Foolish. [Frown]

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Leonard
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Icon 1 posted April 30, 2012 06:25 PM      Profile for Leonard   Author's Homepage   Email Leonard         Edit/Delete Post 
Well, I agree, all things considered, she did pretty well, especially at Vic's age.

I'm just talking about people from back east in the woods venturing out west, taking a stroll in the desert. Happens all the time and they are never prepared.

Some years ago, two women were driving through Death Valley and their car broke down. They started walking and both died of heat related causes before they had got very far. It was the middle of summer and even the coyotes are mostly hairless.

Get a cell phone, Vic. At your age, shit can happen.

Good hunting. LB

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Rich
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Icon 1 posted April 30, 2012 07:00 PM      Profile for Rich   Author's Homepage   Email Rich         Edit/Delete Post 
I bought a Cell phone back when I was driving to north Texas to call coyotes. You can get a mighty long way from help out there. Now I realize that Vic is not much older than me, but he should still buy a Cell phone. The tight wad!!!! [Big Grin]

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Kokopelli
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Icon 1 posted April 30, 2012 07:38 PM      Profile for Kokopelli   Author's Homepage           Edit/Delete Post 
Most of us take precautions for granted, but how many vehicles that you see do you suppose carry even a gallon of water, a sweatshirt & a blanket??? Maybe a flashlight & a couple of cans of Beanie Weenies?? Just basic stuff for when a lonely road gets really lonely. Most people, sadly, don't have a friggin' clue.

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Icon 1 posted April 30, 2012 07:43 PM      Profile for Az-Hunter           Edit/Delete Post 
Nothing to do with price, I just simply loathe the sonofabitches. I worked for 30 years in the phone company, where phones were everything, it was what I got paid to install,repair,answer, be on hold for untold minutes waiting to talk with someone about phones.
I could give a rats ass about a phone, hell, when the house phone(landline) rings I cringe, and sometimes turn a deaf ear, they are nothing but an intrusion device in my opinion.
I observe all day long, people with a fucking phone in their hand, they walk into Walmart with the damn thing in their hand like an appendage, drive int he car, either texting or talking, drives me absolutely fucking crazy.
Im to the point that I will never get one, just for the spite of the matter.
Ive lived 58 years without an electronic device stuck in my pocket or in one of those gawd awful little holsters bidness men love to have dangling on their hip, so I suppose I can make it whatever time Ihave left without one:)

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Leonard
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Icon 1 posted April 30, 2012 08:15 PM      Profile for Leonard   Author's Homepage   Email Leonard         Edit/Delete Post 
I've heard that spiel before, Vic. Then, your wife told me that you DO have a cell phone. I have some reason to doubt your voracity.

But, on the other hand, I am in complete agreement with your observations and I am only slightly infected with the cell phone bug. I only turn it on when I want to make a long distance call and hardly pay attention to it otherwise. Yes, on the road, I have it with me, but I have been known to leave it in the truck for days at a time and don't miss it when I'm in the house.

If anything drives me nuts, it is watching some chick gabbing on the phone, and backing out of a parking space still yakking away....and probably all the way home? Some people were born for the friggin' cell phone. But, I hate them too!

Good hunting. El Bee

[ April 30, 2012, 08:16 PM: Message edited by: Leonard ]

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Az-Hunter
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Icon 1 posted April 30, 2012 08:28 PM      Profile for Az-Hunter           Edit/Delete Post 
She has one, and got a ten dollar prepaid one for me, but it's out of juice I would imagine, out of date for minutes, and out of my mind and reach....hidden somewhere in an unknown basket of shit at my place in Arizona, where it shall remain.
I truly have no interest nor desire for having one. The only desire I have for anything close, is one of those 300 dollar cell phone jammers you can get from pakistan> Id love to have one, just to keep in my shirt pocket or one of those little holsters I detest:)

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Leonard
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Icon 1 posted April 30, 2012 09:45 PM      Profile for Leonard   Author's Homepage   Email Leonard         Edit/Delete Post 
Okay, so that solves you for my Christmas list; I just want that new 72mm Hensoldt.

Good hunting. Le B'

[ April 30, 2012, 09:49 PM: Message edited by: Leonard ]

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Okanagan
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Icon 1 posted May 02, 2012 07:50 PM      Profile for Okanagan           Edit/Delete Post 
Cell phones don't work most places where I hunt and wander. For my family's sake I bought a SPOT 3 years ago and carry it in the top flap of my dayapack. It's a yearly subscription service also.

It has a 911 button to call for emergency help, and sends your lat/long (GPS) location. It also has a button that sends a pre-written e-mail message to pre-selected people that says "I'm OK and here is where I am." I have pushed that button three times in three years: twice to test it and once to let people 1000 miles south of me know I had left my pre-planned hunt location and moved to a different watershed.

Apparently there are some new ones that allow text messaging from wherever you are via GPS satelite, without the cost of a sat phone. I'm gonna check on that. That would be nice to have if I break down in deep snow 60 miles up a logging road when calling in winter, to have a son or friend come and get me.

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Leonard
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Icon 1 posted May 02, 2012 08:35 PM      Profile for Leonard   Author's Homepage   Email Leonard         Edit/Delete Post 
Yeah, that would be cool. Does it have to be an emergency? Just asking.

Good hunting. LB

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