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DAA
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posted February 15, 2012 07:53 AM
Thought Jason might like some of these. Just snap shots from camping out on The Swell last weekend.
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Leonard
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posted February 15, 2012 09:01 AM
Great pics, Dave. Not many coyotes, huh?
Good hunting. LB
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DAA
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posted February 15, 2012 09:11 AM
Didn't even take a gun...
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Aznative
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posted February 15, 2012 12:24 PM
Nice country and a good job on the pics DAA.
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jimanaz
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posted February 15, 2012 01:53 PM
Kind of you to keep sharing these pictures, Dave. Keeps me well supplied with screen savers. ![[Smile]](smile.gif)
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posted February 15, 2012 03:40 PM
Awesome pictures!
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posted February 15, 2012 04:19 PM
Great pics. I'm hoping to get down that way this summer.
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JD
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posted February 15, 2012 04:59 PM
Oh yea!!! 4 weeks and I'll be there in person, Dave, I may have asked this before, do you ever hike the slots? Muddy creek or the like? All of my Swell pics are lost on a bad hard drive, that's a cool place!
Also, do you run your photos through a program to enhance them or do you just have a good camera? I can't seem to get all the colors from that area to show well unless I run em through I photo or some such.
Nice pics, thanks!!
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DAA
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posted February 15, 2012 05:33 PM
Jason, I haven't done a whole lot of slots, but some. Never done any that require ropes. I'm actually going to be doing about five of them in one trip over April Fools - non technical ones.
I would like to learn how to rappel and do the technical stuff before I get too old to even try though.
I do have a pretty decent camera that I bought last May, a Canon 60D. And I usually shoot in RAW format - meaning I have no choice but to process them in some form or fashion to get JPEGS to post.
I think of processing the RAW files like developing negatives with film. The RAW file has all the info the camera sensor took in when I pressed the shutter - just like a negative on film. But it isn't a "picture" until I run it through a RAW processor to spit out a JPEG file that can be viewed on screen or printed. The process is actually deciding which parts of the information the sensor took in to throw away - since the viewable formats simply can't make use of it all at once. Sometimes I just batch them, pick some settings and apply it to all the pictures in a batch and get what I get. But like the ones above, I tweaked settings on each one as I went. Prolly sounds harder than it is - I really have NO IDEA what I'm doing, I just use about six adjustments and move them however pleases my eye. Usually only takes me about 1 minute per picture.
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DAA
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posted February 15, 2012 05:38 PM
Almost forgot, I found some new rock art on one of my hikes last weekend too. Really cool Barrier Canyon Style panel.
Pics:
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posted February 15, 2012 07:58 PM
outstanding pics. Dave. Makes me want to make a trip out to see it myself..
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posted February 15, 2012 08:32 PM
Thanks for sharing the great pictures, Dave. That country is awe inspiring to say the least.
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JD
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posted February 16, 2012 12:02 AM
Thanks for the explanation Dave, I've started doing the same thing with recent pics, 4 or 5 settings and it's actually easy to end up with a much better picture, I'm so technologically impaired that it has to be easy or I wont do it.
I love the slots and surprisingly my wife and kids love that stuff too, I don't remember the name but we did one that had about a 10 or 12 ft drop that I simply tied off a length of rope and made everyone learn how to use it, I would love to do some serious rappelling in that situation.
One particular slot we were hiking had a chunk of log with a bunch of debris on it jammed between the rock walls which were maybe 3 ft wide at the time only this thing was 15 to 20 ft above us, I pointed it out to my wife and informed her that we would be wise to listen for thunder in the distance or a strange rumbling sound, she stared up at that log for maybe 20 seconds before she realized how it got there, I think it made her a little nervous.
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posted February 16, 2012 09:36 AM
As always Dave, the pictures of your adventures are a joy to look at. On my screen it felt as if I could reach out and touch what I was looking at.
Thanks for takin' the time.
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posted February 16, 2012 10:55 AM
Super Duper gorgeous. God has indeed revealed Himself to us in nature!
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JD
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posted February 16, 2012 11:06 AM
Very true Danny! I'll tell you guys this, I know Daves pictures are amazing and look as though you're right there standing beside him but take my word for it those pictures fall way short of capturing the entire beauty of that country....you all need to see it in person, there's more there than just jeep trails and rock art panels.
I like your first picture Dave, I know when your standing there in person in a place like that it's almost hard to wrap your mind around everything in your view, beautiful country!!
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posted February 16, 2012 02:27 PM
Dave,you kick ass get out there and get it done while you can.I kinda like the old house.
Thanks.
Hey JD this would be along shot that any thing would be on that old Hard drive after two years.And if you still even have it on hand.
But if your the sort that hangs on to things you might try these tricks.
A. if it will still spin up at all.
Go to Download.com Cnet.com.
Look in the top right hand side for the search box. Type this in Recuva and then down load it.
It might help you get some files back.
B. If the hard drive does not work at all and it is one that you can un screw and get the disks out you might then take them and just put them in to your rom drive just like a CD. And if you can find any of your photos just send them to my documents.
Yes it sounds a little far out but you never know.
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DanS
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posted February 16, 2012 02:30 PM
great pics as usual Dave. Truly amazing. Looking at some of that scenery just keeps me in awe.
You'll love repelling. Did it years ago, you definitely have plenty of areas to do it.
In that one pic, down by the rocks, I think I saw Elvis. WOW...
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posted February 19, 2012 12:30 AM
Dang, Great pics. Really makes you think about what they are trying to depict. Arms with feet is wild.
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DanS
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posted February 19, 2012 10:49 PM
looking at some of those pics with the long torso bodies, reminds me of the kids today with their pants on the ground. Might have been the style back then too.
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DAA
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posted March 03, 2012 11:00 AM
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Oh yea!!! 4 weeks and I'll be there in person...
Hey JD, if you see this, shoot me an email would ya? daveslc at hotmail dot com.
The kids have a day off from school in two weeks and they just talked me into a Moab trip that weekend. Don't know if timing has any chance of working or not, but if we're there at the same time you are I'd sure like a chance to meet up.
- Dave
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DAA
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posted March 03, 2012 11:07 AM
Oh, and what the heck, may as well add a few pics from my camping trip last weekend...
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Leonard
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posted March 03, 2012 11:46 AM
Those are really great pictures, Dave! Thank you!
You know, one of the most logical theories for why those cliff dwellings were abandoned, I happened to think of, looking at the one pic with the wood log leaned against the rocks. They exhausted all the firewood in the surrounding area. No fuel for warmth and for cooking without backbreaking hauling at further and further distances. Interesting, no?
Good hunting. LB
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posted March 03, 2012 02:21 PM
El Bee;
I mentioned that very idea to Harry Swanson, the Dean at Discovery Park, which is an extension of our local college, last year. He agreed that the depletion of natural resources was probably a factor along with drought.
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DAA
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posted March 04, 2012 09:41 AM
Depends on the exact area/location. In some of the places where the population density was highest around the larger pueblos, or even in lower population areas but marginal habitat to start with, the evidence is clear that the landscape was indeed denuded and the lack of firewood was a problem.
Those situations weren't cliff dwellings like in the pictures above though. The mesa tops above these cliff dwellings have dense PJ forests and there really isn't any evidence that a lack of available fuel was any problem for the inhabitants.
The cliff dwellings get a lot of attention for the simple fact that they are still highly visible and well preserved. Due entirely to their unique locations in canyon alcoves where they have been protected from the elements.
But the cliff dwellings were really a short term phenomena at the very end of the Anasazi occupation of the region. Used for less than 100 years, many apparently only used for a single generation before the abandonment of the entire region. Most who study the subject agree that the cliff dwellings were a defensive response to extreme stress brought about by an extended drought which was greatly exacerbated by gross over population of the region.
Realize, at the height of the Anasazi culture, the entire region was more densely populated than it is today! At the end, when the crash had finally arrived, the need for protection of food and resources had become so acute that they took the extreme measure of building in locations chosen almost entirely on being easily defended. It's not very apparent in any of the pictures I've posted here, but when you visit these sites the emphasis on defensive positioning is extremely evident. And the locations of some of the granaries, where food was stored, is just mind boggling.
For a thousand years prior to the cliff dwellings, the Anasazi lived in open mesa top, creek bench or flood plain sites chosen for the suitability to growing maize and access to resources. So, these types of open sites are vastly more numerous than the cliff dwellings. But, being totally exposed to the elements over the centuries, little visible evidence of them remains today. Being essentially invisible to the untrained eye, and for that matter mostly invisible to even the most trained eye, the open sites get very little public attention. It's the cliff dwellings that have captured the public imagination - but, the cliff dwellings really are not representative of the culture except in its very final stage.
While hiking cross country last weekend I actually did stumble across an easily recognizable open creek bench site. I was hiking well off of any trail, and not heading anywhere in particular, just following my nose up a side canyon to see what I could see. The first clue were a few pieces of broken pottery on an open creosote flat. Knowing this stuff always flows downhill, I started uphill and soon enough found this:
Those upright slabs are all that remains of what was once a structure larger than any of the cliff dwellings pictured above. Being in the open, there isn't much of anything left to see there now, but it was probably a pretty impressive little pueblo a thousand years ago.
Having followed the float to the site, I then started around a bit downhill looking for the midden. Right away spotted some unatural looking mounds a hundred yards down slope. Walked over to them and sure enough, the ground around the mounds was just covered in archaeology. Potsherds, broken metates and lithic scatter everywhere.
This site would be a pot hunters dream. The structure area didn't look like it has ever been excavated at all to me and the midden area looked essentially untouched.
Cool stuff...
- DAA
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