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Bofire
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posted September 15, 2011 09:05 AM
The global warming theory left him out in the cold.
Dr. Ivar Giaever, a former professor with Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute and the 1973 winner of the Nobel Prize in physics, abruptly announced his resignation Tuesday, Sept. 13, from the premier physics society in disgust over its officially stated policy that "global warming is occurring."
The official position of the American Physical Society (APS) supports the theory that man's actions have inexorably led to the warming of the planet, through increased emissions of carbon dioxide.
Giaever does not agree -- and put it bluntly and succinctly in the subject line of his email, reprinted at Climate Depot, a website devoted to debunking the theory of man-made climate change.
"I resign from APS," Giaever wrote.
Giaever was cooled to the statement on warming theory by a line claiming that "the evidence is inconvertible."
"In the APS it is ok to discuss whether the mass of the proton changes over time and how a multi-universe behaves, but the evidence of global warming is incontrovertible?" he wrote in an email to Kate Kirby, executive officer of the physics society.
"The claim … is that the temperature has changed from ~288.0 to ~288.8 degree Kelvin in about 150 years, which (if true) means to me is that the temperature has been amazingly stable, and both human health and happiness have definitely improved in this 'warming' period," his email message said.
A spokesman for the APS confirmed to FoxNews.com that the Nobel Laureate had declined to pay his annual dues in the society and had resigned. He also noted that the society had no plans to revise its statement.
The use of the word "incontrovertible" had already caused debate within the group, so much so that an addendum was added to the statement discussing its use in April, 2010.
"The word 'incontrovertible' ... is rarely used in science because by its very nature, science questions prevailing ideas. The observational data indicate a global surface warming of 0.74 °C (+/- 0.18 °C) since the late 19th century."
Giaever earned his Nobel for his experimental discoveries regarding tunneling phenomena in superconductors. He has since become a vocal dissenter from the alleged “consensus” regarding man-made climate fears, Climate Depot reported, noting that he was one of more than 100 co-signer of a 2009 letter to President Obama critical of his position on climate change.
Public perception of climate change has steadily fallen since late 2009. A Rasmussen Reports public opinion poll from August noted that 57 percent of adults believe there is significant disagreement within the scientific community on global warming, up five points from late 2009.
The same study showed that 69 percent of those polled believe it’s at least somewhat likely that some scientists have falsified research data in order to support their own theories and beliefs. Just just 6 percent felt confident enough to report that such falsification was "not at all likely."
Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011/09/14/nobel-prize-winning-physicist-resigns-from-top-physics-group-over-global/#ixzz1Xyy3aQgn
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Leonard
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posted September 15, 2011 11:55 AM
Well, I'm not a "visionary", by any means, but I have been skeptical of this man caused GLOBAL WARMING crap for many years, even if I am somewhat condescendingly told; "I can't make it any simpler" by (you know who).
The major changes they expect us to do and the costs involved with such weak data just boggles my mind. And, that is nothing compared to the dishonesty, across the board by "scientists" chasing the grants and funding.
Which is to say, trends are one thing, but blaming humans, and then suggesting humans can change these imaginary effects by "going green" is dishonest and, and rediculous, as far as I am concerned.
But keep bringing your "schnitzel bags" to the grocery store if it makes you feel good. That is a term we used in Germany years ago where they did not provide paper or plastic, and if you bought something, you could put it in your pocket, if you forgot your "schnitzel bag". Suddenly, the fad has caught on here in THE LAND OF THE FRUITS AND THE NUTS.
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Bofire
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posted September 15, 2011 06:39 PM
Theory, I see it as a bit of a "social ego" mankind gives themselves way too much credit for thier influence on the world. The concept that the "ability to create art" seperates us, elevates us, from the "animals",well, the people who say that,are the same people that decide what "art" is!! LOL
I think all the other animal farts are far more influential than ours.
Carl
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