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Leonard
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posted July 17, 2011 04:02 PM
I'm open for anyplace, any date, new or used.
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Kokopelli
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posted July 17, 2011 10:47 PM
Same place as last year works for me.
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Ken
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posted July 17, 2011 10:49 PM
Would last year be up in the timber country?
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Kokopelli
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posted July 18, 2011 04:12 AM
Uh...............No. A sand wash in the desert, BUT you can see the trees up on the mountain from the campsite.
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Cayotaytalker
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posted July 18, 2011 09:49 AM
Ever think about Nevada? I mean there is a ton of BLM land to use. But I do like Arizona best. The thing for me is I do like to be near a town with a grocery store so I can get ice beer and gas.Some of the draw backs for Nevada are it could be 50 or 70 miles to town.
In short my vote will be for Arizona I guess.
And I do hope to make this one.
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Leonard
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posted July 18, 2011 10:43 AM
There is a canyon just south of Alamo that could work and supplies are probably less than five miles away.
I have not discounted St John's either. That big fire was over that way, but animals wander back when the coast is clear.
North of Wilcox is a fine location, private, no real negatives, the large desert "elm" is it? provides all the shade you will ever need.
That Seligman location is a wonderful spot for at least a hundred people if it is available?
Lot's of possibilities. Except Pichacho Peak, the professor picked a dud, that time.
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Paul Melching
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posted July 18, 2011 11:25 AM
RE: Seligman
I dont have that particular piece any longer but thet area is a checker board of state trust and private prorerty in 1 mile square sections and there is a lot of places it could happen there.
Edit to add) I like wilcox and St. Johns cuz its not been done.
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posted July 18, 2011 03:20 PM
I like the idea of Nevada.....just sayin'. If not there, St. Johns. Like to try some place new. Also, like to see it be at the end of oct.
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Kokopelli
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posted July 18, 2011 05:07 PM
Are fox & bobcat still off limits to non-residents in Nev???
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Leonard
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posted July 18, 2011 05:10 PM
I am not sure? The way I read the regs. it looked like a non res, could purchase a furbearer license? Anybody?
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posted July 18, 2011 06:13 PM
i'd say MN but you need fast electric windows to have a chance. ![[Smile]](smile.gif) me and Timmey have ours modified (custom). ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif)
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Leonard
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posted July 18, 2011 06:50 PM
That's to combat the skeeters,right?
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Ken
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posted July 18, 2011 07:19 PM
LB when you say Alamo do you mean Lake Alamo?
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posted July 18, 2011 07:41 PM
Alamo, NV looks like a fine location on paper. Just far enough north the coyotes won't be foundered on runaways and card counters.
Timing will be the most critical factor for me this year so I look forward to hearing the projected dates!
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Leonard
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posted July 18, 2011 08:08 PM
Yes, that's Alamo, Nevada, but Lake Alamo, AZ environs is worth consideration.
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posted July 18, 2011 11:53 PM
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but Lake Alamo, AZ environs is worth consideration
I wouldn't recommend this in October, but that's just me.
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Leonard
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posted July 19, 2011 12:36 AM
Okay, why is it unfavorable in October? I have not been there in years, spent one new years eve camped there and froze my ass off, I sure remember that!
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Oh, we have not broached a date, I'm open to any time frame between October and January, or so.
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jimanaz
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posted July 19, 2011 01:26 AM
I won't hunt in that neighborhood all day until November at the earliest, and I'm supposed to be used to the weather here.
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DAA
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posted July 19, 2011 05:38 AM
I'd sure like to make it this year too. Don't plan anything around me, of course, not that anyone would anyway, but, Oct. is already booked solid for me. Nov. is looking tough to get free already too, but could still be done. If a date isn't set within the next few weeks though, my Nov. will likely be gone by then too.
Anyway... for me, it's probably going to have to be after Nov. for my best chance at being able to attend.
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posted July 19, 2011 07:35 AM
Anything before Halloween weekend in October sucks for me, too. And I'd sure like to come this year!
Either of the 1st two weekends in Nov would work well, but not sure if that coincides with any local big game seasons?
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Leonard
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posted July 19, 2011 09:10 AM
That's great. Every campout has been in October, for one reason or another, but it is not a lock.
I'm glad to hear about everybody's busy schedule, and I would first like to nail down a location, or at least a preference. The wash seems always to be a fall back location?
AZ people would be out of their comfort zone in Nevada. Jimanez, what exactly is the difference between October in Wilcox and October in Alamo Lake? 5°?
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Cayotaytalker
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posted July 19, 2011 09:13 AM
I have the 2011 Nevada Hunting Guide right here in my hand.And here what I can make out.
(Bobcats: Miscellaneous Requirements; Prohibited Acts; Fee for Seal)
5. A resident of Nevada must pay the Department $5 for such a seal.
The key word there for me is resident.
#1. Any person who kills a bobcat shall,within 10 days after the close of the season,personally:
(a) Present its pelt for inspection by and give its lower jaw to a representative of the Department.
2. A person shall not sell,offer for sale,barter,trade,purchase, transfer ownership,tan,offer for out-of-state shipment by a common carrier or,except as otherwise provided in subsection.
I think that's a long ass way to say if your from out of state don't harvest any gray fox or bobcats.
This info is found on page 56 of the 2011 Nevada Hunting guide Book.
Any who likes can read up on the Nevada regs for there self at ndow.org
I do not hunt deer or any thing else right now but hope to be for to long. So I'm not up to speed on the big game rules and laws.
But heres what I think I know just off the top of my head. Bow season starts first of september,Gun season first of October, and then all the upland birds starts first of November.
FYI those dates might not be right but only close and I'm not in the mood to look them up.
If Nevada is the state for the camp out just pass on the gray fox and the bobcats.
Alamo Nevada is not so bad of an area. But finding a little shade might not be an easy thing to do. I'm not so sure it's far enough out of vegas. I mean over all the area dose get hit and there are some local calling contest in the area.
But I guess Alamo Nevada is handy from the view point that it's a bit of a gate way to other hunting spots. Caliente Nevada is just up the road from Alamo Nevada on State route 93 and a few other hunting areas,as well as a place to fuel your self up and your truck. Plus a guy could head up state route 318 as well.
The state of Nevada has what I think or very libral hunting regs. The one thing this state is hung up on is don't lay a loaded gun on your any part of your truck car or Quad. In Nevada a loaded gun means a live round in the chamber.
On abit of a side note,for the time being you do not need to have a tag on your ATV or Quad.
Now for the Alamo Arizona area,first off you Arizona boys should just stay the hell out of there that's one of my best spots.
And Jim is right it can be hot in October the day time temp could hit a high of 90 to 95 in October. With a small chance to find any shade.
And it's a long ways back to town.
But of course I'm talking about the part of that county that you get to from I-40 and driving down Alamo Lake Road. It's open land and it's wild county.There is some private land but most of it can be hunted you just have to Sign in to a book and hang A tag off your rear view mirro of your truck. There is more than enough country to hunt. On the south side of the Lake Alamo Arizona is a town name of Sloan or solome. It might have a shit-n-get,Wickenbuurg might not be to far away. On what I call the north side of the lake Alamo area are towns like King man Arizona,Needles California is not to far,And there is a back country road out there that will get you into wickenburg.
I would pick the the last weekend of October or any time in November.
That's about all I got.
Edit is just to add if the camp out is in Nevada there is a chance that a person could hit afew areas along the Utah Nevada border. Of course a guy should find out for his self but I do think that a hunter can harvest coyotes and red fox in Utah with out any hitch,tag or permit of any sort. I have never been to Utah,and like I say a person should check that out for tere self.
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posted July 19, 2011 10:01 AM
Seligman might be cooler in late October than Lake Alamo due to elevation?
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posted July 19, 2011 10:03 AM
Leonard, I'm hesitant to give much input. Just hate the thought of having any influence on date or location, when I'm not at all sure whether I'll be there or not.
But, since you asked, my vote goes for Nevada (Alamo would be great, that's a short drive from our place...), the week before or anytime after Thanksgiving.
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posted July 19, 2011 10:44 AM
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Jimanez, what exactly is the difference between October in Wilcox and October in Alamo Lake? 5°?
Whatever about 2000 to 2500 feet in elevation will get you. Probably more than 5 degrees. If you recall, it was miserable here right up until a day or two before last year's campout and a front came through cooling things off. Front or not, it was still pretty dang warm around Alamo Lake well into November, and is pretty much every year.
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