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Posted by Rich (Member # 112) on June 17, 2011, 08:53 AM:

The Missouri river has already flooded a lot of folks both north and south of me. If our levee holds, we will be OK, but if it breaks we will be forced to evacuate. Once we evacuate, what flood waters don't take, the looters will. If I suddenly disapear from the board, it means I am homeless. The Government had to know about all of that snow in the mountains. If they had opened the flood gates of those three dams in April, we wouldn't be talking floods right now.

[ June 17, 2011, 08:54 AM: Message edited by: Rich ]

Posted by Cayotaytalker (Member # 1954) on June 17, 2011, 09:22 AM:

Rich,hope your levee holds.Rich take your tower for your PC with you if you have to split.Looters should be shot on site!I bet you have done this all ready,but you might want to put some things in a bag in case you have to split in a hurry.
Good luck to you Rich.

Posted by Rich (Member # 112) on June 17, 2011, 09:55 AM:

Cayotaytalker ,

Yes, I have a lot of stuff loaded in my truck already. I agree that looters should be shot, but around here the Judge would probably put on his rasberry lipstick before he kisses them.

Posted by Bofire (Member # 221) on June 17, 2011, 12:37 PM:

I ahve been thru a flood, SUCKS!!! I am praying for you Rich!!
Carl

Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on June 17, 2011, 12:45 PM:

Good luck to you, Rich Cronk. I hope the levy holds.

gh....lb

Posted by DanS (Member # 316) on June 17, 2011, 02:42 PM:

I hope you turn out alright and those levies hold. Just don't send that water downstream too fast. St. Louis could turn into a lake too. We have three rivers flooding.

Posted by Paul Melching (Member # 885) on June 17, 2011, 03:05 PM:

Good luck Rich hope you come through this a- okay!

Posted by Cdog911 (Member # 7) on June 17, 2011, 03:31 PM:

Good luck, Cronk. The amount of water coming off this winter's snows is incredible.

Posted by Possumal (Member # 823) on June 17, 2011, 03:34 PM:

I know all the members here will keep Rich and his family in their thoughts and prayers.

Posted by 4949shooter (Member # 3530) on June 17, 2011, 03:37 PM:

Yes prayers sent..

Posted by JD (Member # 768) on June 17, 2011, 04:41 PM:

Hang in there you old codger, wish you the best but I aint worried about you being alright, I suspect you could survive just about anything. Keep us posted.

Posted by Nikonut (Member # 188) on June 17, 2011, 04:46 PM:

Prayers for your safety Rich. It just rained about 2" here... lots of water standing.

Nikonut

Posted by Duckdog (Member # 3842) on June 17, 2011, 05:18 PM:

Good luck and I hope for the best.

Now...on the looters...

I know a few people in the Joplin area and despite what we were told on the evening news, looting's been a big problem there too.

But...I'm told, when they're caught by civilians...it ain't purdy. (Rightfully so)

One guy, got the shit beat out of him...stripped down...tied to a tree with "looter" spray painted on him!

Another story is of a guy who had both of his arms broken. The cops picked him up after the beating...then dropped his ass off outside of town. (I say "story" with that one, because it was hearsay.)

Not a "story"...Good friend of mine's family was buried in their basement...They dug themselves out to (naturally) find the house destroyed, but his motorcycle was sitting in the garage virtually unscathed!

They went for help and what not, but when they came back the next day...the bike was gone.

Posted by Cdog911 (Member # 7) on June 17, 2011, 06:48 PM:

I heard on the radio today that a Fire chief somewhere was on administrative leave and several of his firefighters were fired, pending charges that they were found to have been looting in Joplin after the tornado when they went there to assist. That should carry extra punishments. When we entered Chapman, KS, following their tornado, everyone was given clear and firm rules on what we were to do if we came across any personal property of value. The crew I was with never did, but I was keeping an eye out just in case. Anytime you move 1400 volunteers into a town that only had 1000 people in it to begin with, there's always the possibility. Take anything you can't replace with you, and the stuff you need now, just to be safe.

Posted by Kokopelli (Member # 633) on June 17, 2011, 08:57 PM:

'.............with "Looter" spray painted on him.

Mayhap, they should have carved 'looter' into the turd's forehead with a skinning knife instead.

Posted by smithers (Member # 646) on June 18, 2011, 09:31 AM:

A small tidal wave could never take you down.

Posted by Rich (Member # 112) on June 18, 2011, 03:13 PM:

JD and Smithers,
I am just an OLD codger now. Six years ago, I retired from the martial arts because I was getting short winded. Quadruple bypass surgery was performed shortly after that. I was taking a Japaneze style of karate at the time.

Posted by smithers (Member # 646) on June 18, 2011, 05:04 PM:

That's why I said a small tidal wave couldn't topple ya. You'd kick it's hind end. Chuck Norris style.

[ June 18, 2011, 05:04 PM: Message edited by: smithers ]

Posted by JD (Member # 768) on June 18, 2011, 05:46 PM:

Very nice Cronk, if you come across a looter give him a spinning back kick.......then shoot the sonofabitch!! Good luck Rich, I'm sure you'll be fine.

Posted by Nikonut (Member # 188) on June 18, 2011, 05:49 PM:

Congrats Rich! "Sho-Dan"

Hand and Fist... you have the upper build for that and it certainly does teach balance and age disciplines. Those fancy kick style sporting kata's don't work in a street fight! Keeping it low and within reach is another thing altogether! [Big Grin]

Nikonut

Posted by DanS (Member # 316) on June 18, 2011, 06:54 PM:

I can't help myself,

Wax on, wax off,

Paint the fence, sand the floor.

go get them sensei

Danielsan S

Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on June 18, 2011, 07:44 PM:

Hey, how about the professor versus Cronk, just for fun? I could work Higgins corner and sneak some cayenne in his jockstrap, just to give him something to worry about.

gh....lb

Posted by Rich (Member # 112) on June 18, 2011, 08:40 PM:

"fancy kick style sporting kata's don't work in a street fight"
---------------------------
I have other tricks also Nikonut.

I will dig out my old scrap book later, and see if I can fin some photos.

Posted by Possumal (Member # 823) on June 18, 2011, 08:44 PM:

When it comes to the scumbags who loot during events like floods, I'd bet on Rich to kick any of their asses, and do it quick.

Posted by Nikonut (Member # 188) on June 19, 2011, 01:28 AM:

Rich,

I kind of suspected that already!

I'd rather put someone down with a throw and then kick the shit out of them than try throwing a roundhouse that might get me put on my back getting the shit kicked out of me!!! LOL

Nikonut [Wink]

Posted by Kokopelli (Member # 633) on June 19, 2011, 04:07 AM:

I dunno, Niko;
There's just something about a knife-edge kick to the dirt bag's knee cap that starts things happining.................... [Big Grin]

Posted by Nikonut (Member # 188) on June 19, 2011, 04:52 AM:

A sweep to the side of the knee works pretty well, too!

Benefit being you still have your balance and a protected position... and your opponent is landing on his back. I think if someone as ugly as Ole'Cronk came at me I'd be running anyway!!! [Eek!]

Nikonut

Posted by Kokopelli (Member # 633) on June 19, 2011, 06:20 AM:

I think that I may have read somewhere (may have been Smither's web site) that Cronk once won a contest by 'slugging' the other guy before he even got on the mat.

The 'slug' being a Silly Loud Ugly Grin. [Big Grin]

But hey,......Cronk's alright!! I hope that I can stay active as long as he has. He makes a pretty good open reed antler reproduction call too. (Actually, it's a damn good call but I don't want to get into that whole leg humping thing.)

Posted by Nikonut (Member # 188) on June 19, 2011, 06:30 AM:

I have several Cronk calls and a few howlers and they do what they are meant to do pretty well.

I've often credited that old fart with starting the new call building craze. His tutorials and helping new guys build calls got lots of stuff going, but you didn't hear that from ME!!! [Wink]

Sure would be a shame if he got washed away by the flood of 2011!

Nikonut

Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on June 19, 2011, 10:33 AM:

I love to read what old farts have to say about something they know nothing about. koko and niko sittin' in a tree....

Happy Father's Day! El Bee

Posted by Nikonut (Member # 188) on June 19, 2011, 12:37 PM:

That's "treebark" Leonard! LOL

Posted by Kokopelli (Member # 633) on June 19, 2011, 01:06 PM:

Enlighten me; Just what is it that I've said that I know nothing about???

Posted by Rich (Member # 112) on June 19, 2011, 01:10 PM:

Koko, Leonard just likes to tease people and it is your turn in the barrel. [Wink]

Posted by JD (Member # 768) on June 19, 2011, 01:58 PM:

Uh oh!! Koko and LB are gonna throw down in the parking lot. [Smile]

See what you started Cronk, you got us all worked up about katas and looters and spinning back kicks now everyones testosterone is in a knot and there's bound to be an ass whoopin before it's over, you just can't get a bunch of old coyote hunters worked up like that.

Posted by Rich (Member # 112) on June 19, 2011, 02:27 PM:

I'm sorry JD, I really am. My money goes on Leonard. A knock out within 5 seconds. [Wink]

Posted by DanS (Member # 316) on June 19, 2011, 06:24 PM:

Wow a huntmasters UFC match! Will this be on pay preview?

Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on June 19, 2011, 11:56 PM:

It wouldn't be much trouble to pull him around by the beard, if I were a meanie, but I'm not.

gh....lb

Posted by Randy Roede (Member # 1273) on June 20, 2011, 06:06 AM:

Rich, they raised our flow from the dam and we are getting rain, two to three inches east of here that will be flowing your way.

Hope your levees hold.

The interstate must be closed in some spots?? I talked to some P Dog hunters from down there that said they hit some detours?

Posted by knockemdown (Member # 3588) on June 20, 2011, 07:14 AM:

I had no idea I was among ninjas.

Hope you are staying dry, Mr. Cronk...

Posted by Rich (Member # 112) on June 20, 2011, 08:35 AM:

Interstate 29 is the main north and south escape routes from my city of Council Bluffs, and it is closed both north and south of me. The western escape route for me is the I-480 bridge, which remains open. I can go east through town and out that way with no problem. Missouri river has remained at 33.2 feet in Council Bluffs area for several days now, which means that river is only running two feet above bottom of our levee here. We will be OK if a levee to our north doesn't break. There is a lot of ground water flooding the farm fields north of here, and that tells me that the ground under those levee's has to be soft mud.

Posted by Rich (Member # 112) on June 20, 2011, 08:42 AM:

Since flood water has driven wildlife out of the brush on bottom grounds, those hills where I have hunted deer and coyotes for over 50 years would be absolutely LOADED with deer and coyotes right now. COYOTES, COYOTES!!!! I would need to take a long detour to make it up there now, but it sure is tempting. VERY tempting.

Posted by Rich (Member # 112) on June 20, 2011, 11:12 AM:

I found this photo of my adopted daughter. I do believe that she will kick Nickle nut's arse for me if I send for her.

Posted by TA17Rem (Member # 794) on June 20, 2011, 11:13 AM:

There's coyotes in them hills by the thousands howling Take me Rich Cronk! Take me! [Smile]

Posted by Nikonut (Member # 188) on June 20, 2011, 12:54 PM:

Don't do it Rich! Please!!!

quote:
I do believe that she will kick Nickle nut's arse for me if I send for her.

I haven't been on the mat or even a fight in a longtime. I never liked sparring with women... I was raised to respect and love them, not beat them up! LOL Yep, lover, not fighter!(Not finding much love either!) [Big Grin]

Hope the waters pass you by Rich... it's pretty soggy here, too. I can hardly wait for the humidity and mosquitos. [Eek!]

Nikonut

Posted by Nikonut (Member # 188) on June 20, 2011, 12:59 PM:

Ummm...

Tim, you might want to edit that post!!!

TA says,

quote:
Take me Rich Cronk! Take me!

Nikonut

Posted by the bearhunter (Member # 3552) on June 20, 2011, 03:39 PM:

just got a call from my brother in Minot ND. both he and my sis live in the valley and sounds like their houses are screwed. might have to leave in a bit to help them move out. might be a long couple of days and alot of driving. gonna bring supplied in case i get stranded. gonna throw a mattress,blankets,cooler,and some canned food. floods suck.
good luck Rich.

Posted by JD (Member # 768) on June 20, 2011, 04:35 PM:

Good luck Bear, be safe around those flood waters.

Tim, What the hell have you and Cronk been doing? That's just sick!!

Posted by Randy Roede (Member # 1273) on June 20, 2011, 05:10 PM:

Yea the wildlife is being displaced, we have been on 12 hour shifts at night shooting any deer that get near the levees. They poke holes in the plastic on the levees with their hooves. We have an island on the river which is for the most part flooded. The deer are still staying in there standing in the water. What a mess!!

Posted by TA17Rem (Member # 794) on June 20, 2011, 06:40 PM:

Well if you two would of seen the movie "Mountain Men" you'd know what I ment by my post..

Posted by the bearhunter (Member # 3552) on June 20, 2011, 06:52 PM:

brother and sis called and they've got it all handled. i won't have to make the trip. going through the senario's in my head!! can't imagine KNOWING your house is doomed. thats gotta be a sobering experienace!! i've been through some MAJOR floods living along the Red River and have vollenteered LOTS of time sand-bagging homes that i have no idea who even owns them. but thats as a preventitive measure. can't even comprehend the thought of knowing that no amount of p/m is gonna help. this is some major stuff happening!!!!!!

Posted by TA17Rem (Member # 794) on June 20, 2011, 07:17 PM:

Speaking of the Red River. When I was stationed up at Grand forks it seemed that every spring the banks would over flow in Grand forks and we would send troops from the base into town to help with the sand bagging... They thanked us every year by comeing out to the base gates and protesting our presence and the nukes we watched over... [Roll Eyes]

Posted by Rich (Member # 112) on June 20, 2011, 08:33 PM:

We had a big thunder storm move through here tonite that caused quite a lot of damage. We got word that because of heavy rains up-river, they may need to open the flood gates of the missouri river dams even more. That's all we need.

Posted by Rich (Member # 112) on June 20, 2011, 08:46 PM:

My youngest daughter snapped this pic from I-80 near York, NE today.

Posted by Rich (Member # 112) on June 20, 2011, 08:50 PM:

Here you see her lifting a large colorado rock near Estes Park.

Posted by Possumal (Member # 823) on June 22, 2011, 01:39 PM:

Great pictures, Rich. The one of that storm is scary. Glad to see the daughter is plenty strong.

Posted by the bearhunter (Member # 3552) on June 22, 2011, 02:33 PM:

had to make a trip to Minot afterall. got both bro and sis moved out. also a few neighbors. it's to easy wathching this stuff on T.V. and dismiss the shear amout of grief this is gonna cause. sad to see them walk away from an empty home knowing that all thev'e worked for will be gone in a few days. it's been a damn sobering day for me today

Posted by Rich (Member # 112) on June 22, 2011, 07:41 PM:

The river level is now at 34.5 feet in this area. Flood gates will be opened to 160,000 CFS tomorrow, which they predict will raise our river level another 4".

Posted by Cdog911 (Member # 7) on June 25, 2011, 03:49 PM:

Hey Cronk,

Are you staying dry?

Coming north from Springfield to KC, MO Wednesday afternoon illustrated how fickle Mother Nature is this year. Within an hour of us, Joplin is in pieces. Just north of us, flood waters are at record highs. At Truman Reservoir, water levels are lower than I've ever seen them. Whereas the lake is known for its abundant treetop snags piercing the water's surface everywhere, at present, there are no snags or tips. The actual trees, as well as the islands of mud they're anchored in are clearly visible. Boat ramps bottom out a hundred yards from the water's edge. I'm guessing the lake is ~25-30' below conservation pool right now.

Posted by Rich (Member # 112) on June 25, 2011, 03:57 PM:

We are still dry right now, but some area's closer to the river have been flooded by the ground water seepage. The latest concern for me is a levee break twenty miles up-river. Water runs down hill in this area.

Posted by tlbradford (Member # 1232) on June 25, 2011, 04:50 PM:

Lance, almost every reservoir has been pulled down to near record lows hear in Washington as well. Because of the record snowpack, and anticipation of warmer weather, they need all the room they can get if it starts melting in a hurry. I imagine they are doing the same thing in yor neck of the woods?

Posted by the bearhunter (Member # 3552) on June 26, 2011, 01:22 PM:

had to make ANOTHER trip to Minot. they raised the crest another 3 feet so my brother got evacuated also. the first trip we just moved his stuff up to the main floor. i was about 150 miles into the trip when he called and said that a shit load of strangers showed up and helped him move and he was all done!!. sisters house is a gonner. water upto the roof [Frown]

well i had my rifle,calls and bedding so i figgered i was that far, might as well go a bit farther and kill coyotes [Big Grin]

. shot 4 on sat. morning. used only mouth calls. (foxpro batteryies were dead).

[ June 26, 2011, 01:23 PM: Message edited by: the bearhunter ]

Posted by Rich (Member # 112) on June 29, 2011, 12:15 PM:

Just yesterday a Sheriff deputy spotted a guy floating down I-29 in a small boat. The deputy waited down-stream where the pavement was dry, and gave the guy a few tickets. Just further proof that you can't fix stupid.

Posted by JD (Member # 768) on June 29, 2011, 02:58 PM:

I'm guessing you're refering to the cop as being stupid, last I checked floating in a boat was still legal.

Hope all is well Rich.

Posted by Rich (Member # 112) on June 29, 2011, 08:17 PM:

JD,
Normally it would be legal, but all of these flood waters are now considered the Missouri river. The Federal Government has banned all boats from the river.

Posted by nd coyote killer (Member # 40) on June 30, 2011, 10:10 PM:

Rich been there done that man keep your chin up it's all replaceble as long as you get out alive.

Tim you just ruined one of the better movies ever with your comments and by the way if you boys when you were helping in Grand Forks would have stayed away from the Jail bait you probably would have been a lot more appreciated watch your tongue!

Posted by TA17Rem (Member # 794) on July 01, 2011, 10:14 AM:

quote:
Tim you just ruined one of the better movies ever

What movie was that??? Would'nt of been so good if they filmed what else went on afterwards..

As for the minors only seen or heard of it happening twice while i was there. Both times the girls had there older sisters I.D...

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