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Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on June 07, 2011, 11:12 AM:
What does it say when the police are confiscating cameras and smashing them? Is destroying evidence only something the public is guilty of? Since when do the cops need to destroy personal property that might show them doing something wrong?
http://www.cnn.com/2011/CRIME/06/07/florida.shooting.witness/index.html?hpt=hp_t2
Posted by 22-250 (Member # 36) on June 07, 2011, 12:17 PM:
Way to common in the City of San Diego
http://www.cbs8.com/story/14740365/9th-san-diego-police-officer-under-investigation
http://www.cbs8.com/story/14740365/9th-san-diego-police-officer-under-investigation
Posted by Ken (Member # 3065) on June 07, 2011, 12:35 PM:
I didn't read the links, only responding to the posters comments. SHOULD I just shoot myself for having ever been a cop?
WHO can I blame for not wanting to be a fireman? My mom or dad?
Can we do a special topic on FUCKED up coyote hunters?
[ June 07, 2011, 12:38 PM: Message edited by: Ken ]
Posted by 22-250 (Member # 36) on June 07, 2011, 12:41 PM:
The other San Diego police officers under investigation are:
Officer Bert Hulbert: On paid administrative duty while under investigation on allegations that he had an off-duty altercation with a teenage neighbor in Miramar on April 11.
Art Perea, 42: Resigned March 4 amid an El Cajon police investigation into a college student’s allegations he raped her at a residence. Police said they are awaiting lab results on forensic evidence and then will decide whether to send the case to the district attorney for charges.
Officer Roel Tungcab, 39: Arrested March 24 by sheriff’s deputies investigating domestic violence against his wife at his Imperial Beach home. He continues to work on paid administrative duty while the district attorney considers charges.
Officer David Hall: Has pleaded not guilty to charges of felony drunken driving causing injury and felony hit and run in connection with an incident Feb. 22 while off-duty. He is on paid administrative duty.
Sgt. Kenneth Davis, 47: Charged Feb. 10 with one count of stalking and three counts of making harassing phone calls to a female San Diego police officer last fall. He is on paid administrative duty and will go to trial on the charges.
Anthony Arevalos, 40: Fired April 14 after being charged with sexually assaulting five women while on-duty. The 18-year veteran, who has been working as a DUI officer, was terminated after an internal investigation. He was arrested March 11 and faces 18 felony charges that include sexual battery, assault under the color of authority and bribery.
Robert Acosta, 39: Charged Oct. 6, along with his wife, with causing $165,000 in damage to their foreclosed home in Murrieta. The couple is also accused of stealing $44,000 in property from the home. Acosta, who worked in the department’s helicopter unit, later resigned. A preliminary hearing is set for this summer.
Posted by sak81 (Member # 3706) on June 07, 2011, 12:48 PM:
It's Everywhere
http://billingsgazette.com/news/state-and-regional/montana/article_41a4c58b-c71c-57b8-bb3e-0df34830cf92.html
Posted by Paul Melching (Member # 885) on June 07, 2011, 12:49 PM:
No ken there is an unwriiten code among coyote hunters. lol
Are you kidding just post anything that someone else does not like or misunderstands.
every one will pile on.
Posted by Ken (Member # 3065) on June 07, 2011, 12:56 PM:
LOL Paul, no shit on that one. ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif)
Posted by Ken (Member # 3065) on June 07, 2011, 01:07 PM:
Did I tell you that at San Diego PD they have 200 cops working Internal Affairs trying to clean up the mess, and only 100 cops on patrol?
Thanks 22-250, I didn't want to reveal the truth of the matter.
I just went out and shot my sway back horse in the barn. Freakin Barney has retired. ![[Cool]](cool.gif)
4949 has nothing to worry about, but I bet he will be glad when he can retire.
[ June 07, 2011, 01:09 PM: Message edited by: Ken ]
Posted by smithers (Member # 646) on June 07, 2011, 01:08 PM:
If some cops would stop being pieces of shit, people would stop talking about it.
Posted by Possumal (Member # 823) on June 07, 2011, 01:08 PM:
Ken, you sure have nothing to apologize for, being a police officer. Unfortunately, when you are in that line of work, you become the target of more scrutiny than most people. Nobody writes much about all the good cops and what they have done for their community. People used to get out of shape if firemen were playing a game of croquet, but they didn't say much when we had to risk our ass to save theirs. Sadly, good news doesn't attract the media much.
Posted by Ken (Member # 3065) on June 07, 2011, 01:11 PM:
Smithers as much as I would love to call bullshit on that, I can't. ![[Wink]](wink.gif)
Thanks Al but cops are going down in flames around here.
[ June 07, 2011, 01:29 PM: Message edited by: Ken ]
Posted by TOM64 (Member # 561) on June 07, 2011, 01:12 PM:
Dog pile!
No what worries me is the amount of press. Are we getting fed up and the media is now on our side or is big brother setting us all up?
Just think how easy would it be to declare all police forces corrupt and now policing will be done on the federal level?
FEMA and Homeland security take over and right all our wrongs.
I better go by some more tin foil...
Posted by Ken (Member # 3065) on June 07, 2011, 01:14 PM:
Don't forget to fuel the black helicopters Tom, or you will be admonished.
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on June 07, 2011, 01:16 PM:
What! You don't already have one?
Ken, now don't "cop" an attitude on us. We know they have a purpose. Ideally, there should be zero police officer crime. Is that too much to ask?
Good hunting. LB
Posted by Ken (Member # 3065) on June 07, 2011, 01:25 PM:
No LB, I have not ridden in a black helicopter in years.
Zero police officer crime is like expecting TA17 to remain silent, it isn't going to happen anytime soon.
Next comment, I need ammo someone!!! ![[Roll Eyes]](rolleyes.gif)
[ June 07, 2011, 01:31 PM: Message edited by: Ken ]
Posted by Ken (Member # 3065) on June 07, 2011, 01:42 PM:
No Tom on a serious note, it's a sign of the times.
The public is tired of the crap in ALL forms of government corruption and overall BS. The public and media are paying attention and demanding answers and NOW!!!
Those paying attention and making corrections in their way of doing business and conduct will weather the storm. Those who don't will suffer at somepoint.
[ June 07, 2011, 01:45 PM: Message edited by: Ken ]
Posted by CrossJ (Member # 884) on June 07, 2011, 01:48 PM:
quote:
WHO can I blame for not wanting to be a fireman?
Hell Ken, the fireman around here are almost as bad as the cops. Stay away from civil service to redeem yourself. LOL
P.S. How do I get a ride on one of these helicopters?
Posted by Ken (Member # 3065) on June 07, 2011, 01:53 PM:
Oh CROSS J your timing is perfect.
Riding black helicopters is a combination of being at the right place at the right time and kissing a little butt.
The second issue I am not too good at, but once every couple decades will consider it.
Lots of helicopter rides from my military days and some cop operations. COOL stuff riding in a blackhawk and cobra too!!!
[ June 07, 2011, 01:54 PM: Message edited by: Ken ]
Posted by smithers (Member # 646) on June 07, 2011, 01:54 PM:
The reason it's newsworthy is because police are supposed to uphold the law and take an OATH to do so. When they fuck up and step outside the lines that's all people wanna hear. It's like a GOTCHA! Ha! We knew you guys were up to no good!
It's a fine line. Whether an officer is jumping in front of bullets or getting cats out of trees, people think, "They are just doing their job, big deal" When they go above and beyond or do something bizarre, like pull a 12 ft alligator out of a home or shoot someone 42 times, it's newsworthy.
According to the story, 4 innovent bystanders were injured by police gunfire. I find that more appalling than stomping on a phone.
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on June 07, 2011, 01:55 PM:
Napoleon is an Italian pastry. Yum!
Why don't you rethink your sig line? Just 'cause a troll jumped on ya is no need for self flagellation. We have already established that you are practically human, and short is not a crime.
Just a suggestion, of course.
gh/lb
edit: agree with smithers, banging away with civilians in the line of fire is not kool. Multiply that with destroying evidence and it sounds like a running amuck situation.
edit: every cop in the video should be suspended and a guilty until proven innocent situation should be the policy, at least in this case.
[ June 07, 2011, 02:01 PM: Message edited by: Leonard ]
Posted by Ken (Member # 3065) on June 07, 2011, 02:04 PM:
Ok LB, I changed my sig line because I do not want to be associated with some gay Italian pastry crap. Macho cops will have NONE of that.
The asshole part must remain for now until I have at least 90% vote of the membership to the contrary. The PM stuff will remain forever.
Until Dave Allen,CCP and a couple others take me off their weird list, I cannot modifie my sig anymore.
Let the record reflect I am open to suggestions even at 56.
[ June 07, 2011, 02:09 PM: Message edited by: Ken ]
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on June 07, 2011, 02:11 PM:
The symbol for lb. is shift/3key. 220# not too bad for a man of your height and advanced age.
Yeah that service with PMS staff will be with you all your days. Embrace it, own it, laugh it off.
Posted by Ken (Member # 3065) on June 07, 2011, 02:26 PM:
My next hope is Tom might give me another name and forget the Barney stuff. I did carry more than one bullet and it wasn't in my shirt pocket. ![[Razz]](tongue.gif)
Posted by Semp (Member # 3074) on June 07, 2011, 02:35 PM:
quote:
SHOULD I just shoot myself for having ever been a cop?
Now that is an interesting question. Do you really want to know the answer?
Posted by Ken (Member # 3065) on June 07, 2011, 02:37 PM:
Lol Semp, NO!!!! You folks to the east are a hard bunch to deal with. Krist!!
[ June 07, 2011, 02:38 PM: Message edited by: Ken ]
Posted by 4949shooter (Member # 3530) on June 07, 2011, 02:56 PM:
Well the cop haters among us will be happy to know that the San Diego cops are already under investigation, and the Miami cops will be under investigation.
Posted by Dave Allen (Member # 3102) on June 07, 2011, 02:59 PM:
Quote, from Ken.
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Until Dave Allen,CCP and a couple others take me off their weird list, I cannot modifie my sig anymore.
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OMG ! I just spit water all over the keyboard. Lol..You aren't on my wierd list, sheezz..
I just thought the timing of the comment was a little odd, perhaps I coulda' splained myself a little better ?
Go find a step-stool and get yourself saddled up pardner'
[ June 07, 2011, 03:02 PM: Message edited by: Dave Allen ]
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on June 07, 2011, 03:03 PM:
They are! I'd be okay with cutting them loose at the Mississippi and letting them drift east in the Atlantic a few hundred miles. I don't know if it's possible, but it's worth thinking about. Sorry, Vic. Maybe you need to learn French? Not right away, but eventually.
gh/lb
edit: no cop haters at HM, 49. Where on earth did you get that idea?
edit: I want dogboy and 49 taken off everybody's weird list, right now! Del stays. After that video, ya know?
[ June 07, 2011, 03:10 PM: Message edited by: Leonard ]
Posted by TOM64 (Member # 561) on June 07, 2011, 03:13 PM:
Da da da daaa, From this day forward Ken aka, Barney, shall now be known as Festus.
Hows that?
Posted by TOM64 (Member # 561) on June 07, 2011, 03:18 PM:
I totaly agree with Leonard, there are no cop haters here just bad cop haters.
Festus and 49 ain't too weird, ones from back east and the other out west but we don't hold that against em.
Now Del on the other hand, he ain't weird at all, he's fun!
Posted by Ken (Member # 3065) on June 07, 2011, 03:20 PM:
Tom and Dave YOU are the best!!
49 gotta share some wisdom before the day is gone it's 3:18pm Pacific time 6:18pm at your place.
Pick up the pace SARGE!!!!!!!!!!It's getting dark out...
[ June 07, 2011, 03:20 PM: Message edited by: Ken ]
Posted by Cdog911 (Member # 7) on June 07, 2011, 03:22 PM:
1) I could start talking about f'd up coyote hunters, but they know who they are and whny without being pointed out, and
2) So, you catch a little shit because of what you do for a living. Try being a postal worker. When's the last time you heard of someone going all "Poh-lees" on someone's ass?
Posted by 4949shooter (Member # 3530) on June 07, 2011, 03:29 PM:
Lol I'm here Ken.
As far as postal workers go, I posted one thread here about a postal worker who got locked up by the PO-lice, and spit his own scat at the cop. Then everyone gave me a guilt trip because Lance is always getting these weird postal worker threads thrown at him. I actually felt a little bad, but Lance took it well.
Posted by 4949shooter (Member # 3530) on June 07, 2011, 03:32 PM:
Anyhoo...cops lovers would post ALL good threads about cops.
Cop haters post all BAD threads about cops.
Middle of the road people post good AND bad threads about cops. So...being that you guys are middle of the road and all, where are the good cop threads to go with all the bad ones?
Posted by Dave Allen (Member # 3102) on June 07, 2011, 03:32 PM:
Ken are you growing ?
You and Nick would be welcome at my camp fire anytime. (Edit) Del too !! but he's buyin' the beer..
[ June 07, 2011, 03:33 PM: Message edited by: Dave Allen ]
Posted by 4949shooter (Member # 3530) on June 07, 2011, 03:33 PM:
Thanks Dave!
Edit: If Del's buying the beer I'm in!
[ June 07, 2011, 03:40 PM: Message edited by: 4949shooter ]
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on June 07, 2011, 03:49 PM:
Let's say you are at the campout and you observe JD peeing against a bush.
Would you ignore it, because you lack authority in AZ?
Would you caution the offender to walk further away from the campfire?
or would you call the police to the scene, explain the violation and sign a complaint?
What if it was TA? Would that make a difference in possibility #3?
Posted by Dan Carey (Member # 987) on June 07, 2011, 03:49 PM:
I heard the cops investigating the cops in San Diego are now under investigation ![[Smile]](smile.gif)
Posted by Cdog911 (Member # 7) on June 07, 2011, 03:52 PM:
49,
As much as I am a postal worker, I don't defend any of those others. I admit up front that there are some f'd up postal workers in this country and I ain't one of 'em.
Posted by 4949shooter (Member # 3530) on June 07, 2011, 03:53 PM:
quote:
I heard the cops investigating the cops in San Diego are now under investigation
Now we are getting somewhere!
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on June 07, 2011, 03:53 PM:
BTW, I'm just kidding, 49
Posted by Ken (Member # 3065) on June 07, 2011, 03:54 PM:
Yes Dave, now at 5'10" leveling off, threw the step stool away. Horse is dead though, he was getting old. Thanks for your willingness to share the campfire, but I can only pitch in for the beer, but will be happy to drink Del's depending on the brand. Mickey's Big Mouth is out.
NO ONE talk about going postal. Ugly stuff.
Glad you finally rolled in Sarge when things were getting a little hot in the neighborhood.
Being a POSTAL worker does not make you a bad person.
[ June 07, 2011, 03:59 PM: Message edited by: Ken ]
Posted by 4949shooter (Member # 3530) on June 07, 2011, 03:57 PM:
quote:
As much as I am a postal worker, I don't defend any of those others. I admit up front that there are some f'd up postal workers in this country and I ain't one of 'em.
I know you're not one of them Lance. I didn't mean to imply you were if that's how I sounded.
Posted by Dave Allen (Member # 3102) on June 07, 2011, 04:20 PM:
Del, Ken and Nick have taken flack for being cops, and in my opinion have proved they are/were honest ones. And I guess Lance has taken some crap for being a postal worker also ?
Confession time. I've spent about 22 years in the auto industry, ten of which, I was a salesman, or sales manager or finance manager.
I also was one of honest one's ,the pressure to be dis-honest is what which eventually led me to other positions within that industry.
My wife used to take crap all the time when people asked what I did for a living.They would say things like a car salesman huh ? My wife was a stay at home mom during this time period, she would reply by saying I financially took care of her and our daughter.
I'm almost afraid to say this stuff, the more Leonard knows about me, he might add something else to my title
Posted by TOM64 (Member # 561) on June 07, 2011, 04:35 PM:
Whiners!
Let's not forget, I'm an okie so suck it up cupcake it only gets better from here.
Besides we started "going postal".
for those that take things too seriously, you know who you are.
Posted by JD (Member # 768) on June 07, 2011, 04:37 PM:
ALRIGHT YOU MOTHERFUCKERS GET ON THE GROUND....NOW...GET ON THE FUCKING GROUND.....KEEP YOUR HANDS WHERE I CAN SEE EM AND GET ON THE FUCKING GROUND....NOW!!!!!
I saw we had another cop thread going so I thought I would practice my command voice......I should go over to my neighbors house now and put the boots to him and shoot his wife just so I don't lose my edge.
Posted by CCP (Member # 913) on June 07, 2011, 04:39 PM:
quote:
Until Dave Allen,CCP and a couple others take me off their weird list, I cannot modifie my sig anymore.
It was just for that thread we have moved over to this one. I haven't formed an opinion of you on this one yet Ken.
If it makes you feel better all is forgiven till our next disagreement. HA HA!!
Just remember to always agree with me and all will be well.
We tend to bash bad cops and there behavior not just hate cops. Like said bad cops make the news good cops make our everyday lives safer.Talking about how safe our lives are just aint as fun....
Posted by 4949shooter (Member # 3530) on June 07, 2011, 04:58 PM:
quote:
BTW, I'm just kidding, 49
I know Leonard.
Besides, I'm not as serious as Tom thinks.
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on June 07, 2011, 05:09 PM:
We need to do all we can to build up their self esteem. It's gotta be tough, everybody hating ya?
Send a greeting card, just to show we appreciate them. Sign it, "your buddy, Tom64" something like that, that's just an example.
gh/lb
Posted by DEL GUE (Member # 1526) on June 07, 2011, 05:26 PM:
Dave,
Thanks for volunteering me to buy the beer, compadre. That was mighty generous of you.
Leonard,
If I saw JD peeing against a bush I'd join him in a pissing contest and we'd see who could arc their stream the farthest.
Ken,
You are hereby placed in charge of conducting the poll to see what brand of beer is acceptable to all parties.
Posted by TOM64 (Member # 561) on June 07, 2011, 05:29 PM:
"Send a greeting card, just to show we appreciate them. Sign it, "your buddy, Tom64" something like that, that's just an example."
Oh great I can see it now, 49 opens a greeting card from TOM64 and an unknown white powder falls out. The entire precinct is evacuated, warrants issued for TOM64, film at 11:00!
Posted by the bearhunter (Member # 3552) on June 07, 2011, 05:37 PM:
i'm a F/uped coyote hunter.
from now on when someone pisses me off. i'll for-warn them that i'm gonna go Del-Gue on their azz. not postal. with the moves Del has, that should de-fuse a pending situation
[ June 07, 2011, 05:37 PM: Message edited by: the bearhunter ]
Posted by DEL GUE (Member # 1526) on June 07, 2011, 05:51 PM:
bearhunter,
You're killing me!!!!! That's wicked funny!!!!
And closer to the truth than you know at certain times. (Cindy, the girl on my squad, will vouch for that. )
[ June 07, 2011, 05:53 PM: Message edited by: DEL GUE ]
Posted by smithers (Member # 646) on June 07, 2011, 05:55 PM:
Jon Bon Jovi said it best, when he said it like this:
Shot forty-two times for an illegal lane change... Darlin' you give cops a bad name, bad name...
Shot 70 times when we performed our raid, you shouldn't of held onto that AK, AK... (I know it was an AR but that shit don't rhyme)
[ June 07, 2011, 06:00 PM: Message edited by: smithers ]
Posted by DEL GUE (Member # 1526) on June 07, 2011, 06:47 PM:
Michael Martin Murphy, 'Frank James' Farewell'
"...and tonight I can hear Jesse callin',
tonight we will ride once again.
I believe I have seen my last sunset.
I believe I have jumped my last train...
We protected each other
like good brothers should.
Now time's finally done
what the law never could..."
Posted by 4949shooter (Member # 3530) on June 07, 2011, 07:06 PM:
quote:
Oh great I can see it now, 49 opens a greeting card from TOM64 and an unknown white powder falls out. The entire precinct is evacuated, warrants issued for TOM64, film at 11:00!
We'll just make sure the bomb squad and haz-mat crew are around when opening cards from the Huntmasters crew.
Posted by CrossJ (Member # 884) on June 07, 2011, 07:41 PM:
quote:
So...being that you guys are middle of the road and all, where are the good cop threads to go with all the bad ones?
49, I actually ate breakfast with a OHP officer this morning. Thats as warm and fuzzy as it gets around here.
Maintain
Posted by JD (Member # 768) on June 07, 2011, 09:58 PM:
C'mon 49......you arent really that paranoid about us HM guys are you....we dont hate you....we just hate it when you shoot us.
Posted by 4949shooter (Member # 3530) on June 08, 2011, 12:30 AM:
Well maybe I have been a little harsh in judging you guys. Okay, I take it back.
For now.
Posted by Nikonut (Member # 188) on June 08, 2011, 01:00 AM:
Here's one to consider...
Fired for assisting fellow officer
I can see where calling in would have been advisable but when seconds count? The first officer had already been shot. I think this guy deserves some slack although we don't have all the details.
Nikonut ![[Confused]](confused.gif)
Posted by Ken (Member # 3065) on June 08, 2011, 06:41 AM:
Tom what's that old saying, "no good deed goes unpunished"?
I guess that guy doesn't have civil service protection or a good union to fight the issue for him.
Excessive for sure!!!!
Posted by DEL GUE (Member # 1526) on June 08, 2011, 07:36 AM:
When somebody needs help, you do what you have to do.
Posted by 5shots (Member # 427) on June 08, 2011, 08:40 AM:
OK, OK, enough kissing and making up. I can't believe I just read 3 pages of this. Get back to the arguing already.
Posted by Aznative (Member # 506) on June 08, 2011, 10:39 AM:
There is no excuse for the police acting like this. However, I've been to Maimi a few times and they have a very tough job. That city is full of scumbags that need shot.
Posted by 22-250 (Member # 36) on June 08, 2011, 11:01 AM:
There was a story in Arizona a couple of weeks ago. This I what I remember from the report. A SWAT team stormed a house that was occupied a marine vet, this wife and child.
The SWAT did an announcement that they were at the door, turned on a siren for a couple of seconds and broken down the door. Just seconds of notice. The vet came out of the bedroom carrying an AR and as the team made entry in the front door, and then the lead member of the SWAT team fell down and accidently discharge his weapon. The whole team fire more than 70 rounds, with the vet being hit approximately 60 times. Other than the lead member, all of the officers said that they were fired upon. And on top of all this, they broke into the whole house!!
Almost the same story line happen in Poway ten years, except it was a Sheriff SWAT and but they controlled there fire, and the homeowner was on hit twice and survived. Wrong house again, 10 million awarded to the homeowner.
How do professional make these types of mistakes.
I cannot verify the story in AZ but the Poway is factual.
[ June 08, 2011, 11:05 AM: Message edited by: 22-250 ]
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on June 08, 2011, 12:02 PM:
Tom Moore, are you kidding, or did you overlook the 11/12 page thread in this very forum discussing the same incident?
gh/lb
http://www.huntmastersbbs.com/cgi/cgi-ubb/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=6;t=002762
[ June 08, 2011, 12:03 PM: Message edited by: Leonard ]
Posted by 22-250 (Member # 36) on June 08, 2011, 12:37 PM:
Guess I got lost. Did not notice that the other topic was updating.
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