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G.T.
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posted May 05, 2011 07:11 AM
If any of you have been watching Predatormasters the past few years then there is no way that you've missed seeing the talent drain at that septic tank. TRUE predator hunting pro's such as Les Johnson, Randy Watson, Cal Taylor and others have either been banned or left in disgust. There are actually so many names to mention and would take days to compilate a list. There is something VERY WRONG with this picture!
Fate? Accident? Don't think so! Bum rushing these folks out of Predatormasters sure makes the likes of Redfrog, Stu, Mock, Java, B-Bar and others look pretty good. Just look at Barry Stewart - now he's a "Predator Control Specialist" and a world reknowned blogger! About all that is left at Predatormasters are starry eyed kids and true novices that will hang on everyword these frauds print. Eventually a good majority of the participants over there see the forest for the trees and wisen up, though as P.T. Barnum says "there's a fool born every minute"<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>don't fool yourselves, Predatormasters staff relies on these fools to keep the money coming in. Non Profit? So they claim. It's really no wonder that Predatormasters is very reluctant to reveal by-laws and minutes and publish an audit, they surely don't want you to see where the money goes! Talent traded for "fame" and income? You know it!
NM Leon = Where oh where did they scrape this molecule of bacteria from? Rumor has it that they found ole' Leon giving gum jobs at some truck stop glory hole along I-10 and thought he'd be a wonderful addition to the staff. Judging from his online antics at Predatormasters looks like they should of kept Leon behind that snot and shit stained mens restroom wall with a gaping hole and a big arrow and "Insert Here" written with a discarded sharpie pen<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>good job there Predatormasters! Tough talking unemployed NM Leon has brought alot of class and distinction to your website. We're all really glad that Leon is on top of the Hyperwrx/Kodiak61 identity theft scandal. Truth be known, Scott and Andrew are pretty good buds so don' t be surprised if it ends up being a hoax perpetrated to complex the already feeble minds of the staff there. Go back to that Flying J, Leon! Oh wait, you are a very importantant person = Chairman of the Board @ Predatormasters. That has to be a hoax>>>>>>>>>>>Chairman? Really? Glad to see that you're on top of the identity theft situation there at Predatormasters, do you still have chief counsel Java4 posing as an attorney e-mailing out cease and desist orders to competing websites?
It is a sad state of affairs that some of the lowest denominators of the industry have Shang-Hai'd the ship known as Predatormasters. While 9 out of 10 serious predator hunters eventually see through the ruse, it's that naive 1 out of 10 that keeps the boat afloat. My suggestion to the staff at Predatormasters is to obtain real jobs and PLEASE step away from the world of online predator boards as you've ruined the credibility of the fad known as predator hunting forums. I would like to cleverly say that you've been exposed but ya'all should take credit for exposing YOURSELVES! And another thing, it's a damn shame that you ride on the shirt tails of the late Will Craig. I knew Will Craig and he is rolling in his grave over what you have done to his site! Thank god Leonard here at Huntmasters put up a site where the stalwarts of the game and newbies can congregate without fearing of banning and speak their mind. It looks like you can even discuss actual predator hunting without some fraud waiting in the weeds ready to pounce and diss you for maybe using a WT instead of FoxPro. We've heard all your threats and boasting of creating a database of IP address #'s with the promise of hunting down members that you don't agree with. Big freakn Deal! For anybody left over there (Predatormasters), it's never a bad idea to use mirror or rotating proxies so these scumbags can't get a bead on you. Tables might be turning soon so the staff over there shouldn't be shocked to find the hunter being hunted, fellas!
[ May 05, 2011, 08:24 AM: Message edited by: G.T. ]
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Lonny
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posted May 05, 2011 07:40 AM
Welcome GT. You're preaching to the choir when talking about the decay of PM here. But it's good to vent and get it off your chest.
I haven't been over there in a long time, but was wondering if PM still has that yearly hunt/gathering and if RF is still the king of the board?
Yes, I know I could go look for myself to find out, but that would be a couple minutes of my life I could never get back and I really don't give a shit if PM is dying or thriving.
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Dave Allen
Hi, I'm SUPER DAVE, IN CHARGE OF Q STUFF (and Goat Leader) "I'm really not trying to be a dick".
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posted May 05, 2011 07:51 AM
Lonny your right its a waste of time to go look. I clicked on a link to there the other day, 1st time I've looked there in well over a year.
You ain't missin' nothing, I think Mock is in charge ?
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Leonard
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posted May 05, 2011 07:56 AM
The screen name, G.T. does not ring a bell with me, I have been gone from PM for almost ten years and never followed the decline.
But, if you knew Will Craig, I guess you have been around a while? As it happens then, we have a mutual acquaintance because I also knew Will Craig, and considered him a good friend.
Feel free to express yourself on any subject that strikes your fancy. This environment shouldn't be hard to get used to?
Good hunting. LB
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TOM64
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posted May 05, 2011 08:15 AM
I clicked on the link the other day too. Looked around a minute tried to log in just to make sure I'm still banned and yep, I am.
Newbies spend money and are looking for someone to tell them which gadget to buy next... What better direction to take PMS?
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Leonard
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posted May 05, 2011 08:33 AM
I received a complimentary copy of Predator xtreme in the mail yesterday. One ad was for something called Mojo ? I almost got sick when I read that Byron South was called, "Mr Coyote". He must have surpassed Gerry Blair by now, probably has well over 75 years of experience. (in dog years)
A true icon, I'm sure. Exactly how does one become a Legend? Who's the King maker that makes stuff like this possible? Already mentioned, Berry is on the fast track! Yippee, ride 'em cowboy!
I prob sound jealous; sorry? Not even.
GH/LB
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G.T.
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posted May 05, 2011 10:50 AM
Leonard I have seen where you said B-Bar has actually registered here, but hasn't posted yet.
Undoubtly the sincerely insincere Barry Stewart does lurk here so why not come out and play, Barry? You would have to man-up as you ain't gunna have your backroom thugs to gangbang for you. As far as you manning-up, we know that won't happen.
Here is the lovely blog by none other then B-Bar>
http://desertcoyote-barry.blogspot.com/?spref=fb
You can see that, very wisely I must add, B-Bar doesn't leave the ability for a reader to leave a comment. This would go against the grain of a guy who liked to dish it out when director at Predatormasters yet is too gutless to allow an avenue to get it thrown right back at him.
C'mon B-Bar, log in here and tell us what's on your mind, Cabellero! Tell us how in about 2 years you created 9,500 posts on Predatormasters and tell us how you are the new go-to guy in the predator hunting world. Here's your que B-Bar>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
PS: It would be extremely unfair of me not to add that B-Bar has resigned from Predatormasters, though still posts there. I have a sense that he regrets the association and realizes that his image has suffered an incredible amount of damage due to this affiliation, plus his own actions as "Backroom Barry" that he would need to be held trial to. As much as his antics have angered many of us, I would think that the open board here at Huntmasters would at least give him a chance to explain himself, though at the risk of serious backlash.
Smither, I just saw your reply. The anger festers on and I don't care if it's soooo 2008
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csmithers
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posted May 05, 2011 10:58 AM
Get your silly mug on the telly and you too can ascend to legend status within days. You don't even have to accomplish anything.
Isn't the PM bashing passé? It's SOOO '08! If it took you 9 years to figure out that you dislike a place... You deserve to be there for eternity...
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Leonard
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posted May 05, 2011 02:20 PM
Would it be rude to inquire as to what screen name you used, over there? I probably wouldn't recognize it anyway, but I'm wondering if you are going to remain incognito? Maybe it's G.T.? Did you manage to get yourself banned? What was the straw that broke the coyote's back?
GH/LB
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Rich
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posted May 05, 2011 03:25 PM
"The screen name, G.T. does not ring a bell with me, I have been gone from PM for almost ten years"
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TEN YEARS!!!?????? Holy Crap!!!! That Leonard feller must be really really OLD. Long white beard, bald head?
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Leonard
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posted May 05, 2011 04:46 PM
Yes, Rich. I'm old, or mature to use a less offensive word.
To G.T. yes Berry registered, and at the same time sent me a confirmation email and said he most probably would not be posting a whole lot.
Then, I did something I almost never do, I posted a FYI telling the membership that Berry had registered. I usually let them log on at their own timetable whenever they feel like it.
Well,the reaction was quite negative and he may have seen it and decided that he wasn't going to be welcomed with open arms and since he wouldn't have his staff working the keyboard and deflecting criticisms, so we are still awaiting his first post.
I kinda doubt if we will ever hear from him? As I mentioned, he wouldn't know how to handle an open forum?
GH/LB
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Steve Craig
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posted May 05, 2011 05:49 PM
10 years!!!!
Dang Leonard, has it been that long? I quit there just weeks after you did. Where has the time gone?
Hey where is the Camp Out going to be? October is only 5 months away! ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif)
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G.T.
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posted May 05, 2011 06:57 PM
My PM handle was Coy Trax, was posting around 2003-04, then kind of lost interest. Tried to log back on a few years later but couldn't remember password and the PM staff was unhelpful to say the least.
If you go back and research any threads I was part of, I'm listed as "Anonymous" and unregistered, hmmm. I do remember wrasslin in the mud with dogboy (Ken?), but didn't he go bad as well?
Leonard you are probably correct that B-Bar Barry will decline an opportunity to participate here without the services of his backroom posse. A real tough guy when he has thugs at his side to do the dirty work but a real pussy cat when going solo. In a way, a sad event. I do think there are some quality things Barry could bring to the table but I'm sure the hate he helped create would get him ripped to shreds on a true open forum.
Does anybody have the scoop on this NM Leon? Other then the fact that he was a glory holist at the Flying J west of Phoenix, how did this creepy little punk end up Chairman of the Board at "the worlds largest predator hunting website" ? Are they that hard up?
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Leonard
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posted May 05, 2011 07:21 PM
Yes Steve, ten years. Ten years since the Palace Coup that relieved me of my administrating duties at PM, while I was in Africa, no less. And, ten years since I started Huntmasters, original, not the New Huntmasters.
As far as the campout we can start talking about it anytime. If you have a place in mind, don't be shy.
GH/LB
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kodiak61
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posted May 05, 2011 07:46 PM
Scott is my great bud, always will be. We are gay for each other.
I logged into PM to see my account was banned. The reason, Scott used my account. I contacted PM to get my account back because the truth of the matter is I didn't give Scott the password, nor permission to use it. I had no idea he was using it. I just wanted my account back.
They then decided to make the post they made.
A hair overboard, but it is their playground so...
Scott likes to argue with Leon. Scott was banned for arguing with Leon. Scott used my account without my permission to argue with Leon some more. Leon does not like Scott and he wants to make him look as bad as possible. Again its his playground.
That pretty much sums up that.
Now I'm going back into hiding like a good boy.
Andrew
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G.T.
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posted May 05, 2011 08:09 PM
Kodiak, for the sake of your gay buddy, why don't you reply to that dumbfucker Leon that he should delete that thread? Sure it give the impression that Rodgers is a real big man to all the uninformed at PM but the savvy folks who can see through the BS can tell otherwise.
Sure, Hyperwrx was a well known predator hunting forum badboy, but is he really worth the time of a CHAIRMAN OF THE BOARD? C.O.B., quite the title there, Leon.
A little birdy tells me that you (Leon) have been spying the pages of Huntmasters and that you're damn unhappy that you are looked upon here as a fucking joke. Grow a set of balls and bring your keyboard tough guy act to a real open forum, chickenshit!
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Leonard
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posted May 05, 2011 08:35 PM
Good idea. Redfrog came in here and we ran that little discussion to 10 or 12 pages. (I think?) Look it up
GH/LB
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kodiak61
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posted May 05, 2011 09:00 PM
For lack of better explanation GT, because in the end I really don't care. Its just a forum, its just the internet.
Scott has had worse things said about him and his family and friends still like/love him so I think he will make it through this ok too.
Ok, a little explanation (I guess I care just a bit).
It is Leon's playground currently and in my opinion he can do whatever he likes. Right or wrong, its his playground. Just as if he choose to LB could ban me from this board this instant for no reason at all. If he felt like blessing me with a reason he could list it as "I was bored" and that's that. By choosing to log onto an internet forum you subject yourself to its rules and rulers.
The entire situation to me has been much ado about nothing. I just wanted my account back, they were nice enough to me to allow that to happen. They did not have to as it is their playground and I was apart of their rules being broken. If they want to make a giant deal out of the issue then let them. I posted the truth for people to read and they can choose if Scott is indeed the terrible super cyber account hacker, or just a guy that made a mistake in trying to win an internet battle.
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Bryan J
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posted May 05, 2011 09:23 PM
Is Jack Robberts still there to keep those kids from blowing themselves up?
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Leonard
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posted May 05, 2011 09:31 PM
It's no secret that Scott and I have had our differences.
What I think is unimportant, but I will share it anyway.
If Scott got himself banned on PMS, he deserved it. I suppose they set the dogs loose and tracked him down. Why he didn't anticipate that they would go after him is beyond me?
So Kodiak ratted his buddy and they went after Fruit Loops with a vengeance, they love that stuff.
If he actually stole that password while working on kodiak's computer, that is not only an error in judgement, it is unethical.
See, it really REALLY grinds on him when he steps out of line and he gets banned. What nerve! They can't ban Ladder Boy, I'm way too important to get banned.
Scott holds a record on Huntmasters, well he is tied with one other person, as the only two members that have been banned twice. One guy was in the hospital, not looking too good so I reinstated him, in a weak moment. With Scott, he just kissed up to me and I figured ah shucks, yeah, I will let you back in. Then he broke all records in pissing me off, and I realized what a mistake it was to let him back in. These kind never change, I should have known. But, I learned a lesson.
I wish it wasn't so, but it is what it is. Scott cannot handle the Internet. Sad but true.
But, he's my pen pal. So is the other guy, writes to me all the time on weighty issues. With Scott, it consists of denials, he didn't do this or that. Hell, he's my BFF.
GH/LB
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UTcaller
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posted May 05, 2011 10:13 PM
Man has it really been 10 years? That's crazy! Seems Like just yesterday we were all on Posse Country Forum together.Time sure flies....Hell most of us have been here on Hunt Masters for damn near 10 years.
Yeah Predator Masters is a real joke now.Don't even waste my time with that place anymore.
Leonard I think most of these so called new legends,heroes,pro's are just a product of our new predator hunting environment.Like it or not.It sure seems like everybody wants to be a rock star these days talent or not.lol
Good Hunting Chad
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Dan Carey
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posted May 05, 2011 10:57 PM
I ain't buying any of this bullshit written by leon rogers or Andrew. The truth lies in wait.
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TOM64
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posted May 06, 2011 05:29 AM
Me either Dan, if they truly were "friends" he'd handle it in a whole different manner. Friends stick up for each other and to let someone paint your friend as a thief wouldn't happen in my world.
But I guess some have a different definition of "friend" than I do.
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tlbradford
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posted May 06, 2011 06:11 AM
Pals
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Leonard
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posted May 06, 2011 08:54 AM
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I ain't buying any of this bullshit written by leon rogers or Andrew. The truth lies in wait. (DAN, (the man)
Well, I was kidding about being Ladder Boy's BFF, but Dan is the real deal. He is actually Scott's friend. It could be that Scott didn't steal his friend's password? Maybe the truth is out there, in some version that would make him look a little better? Calling SPIN CONTROL! Hello?
GH/LB
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