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JD
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posted March 13, 2011 12:54 PM
Anyone (besides Andy) want to identify the species, play fair, no google.
Took these pics in my yard last Monday from the garage window.
Took these about 10 minutes ago off my deck
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Cdog911
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posted March 13, 2011 01:16 PM
Those are annoying bastards. Fun to call, but if you screw up, they go everywhere, scattering like quail. No rhyme or reason to them, unlike a coyote. At least you can anticipate a coyote's escape route. You sit there and watch them 200 yards away peenting like a hen and they just ignore you. After about an hour, you're itching for your rifle so you can just put an end to the madness. Annoying bastards. LOL
I didn't know you actually hunted turkeys. We just call it "turkey killin'" 'cause that's about all there is to it, compared to calling predators.
My guess is Eastern X Rios which is what Kansas has. If not the standard hybrid, I'd say Easterns.
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csmithers
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posted March 13, 2011 01:32 PM
Tufted titmouse gigantor?
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Lone Howl
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posted March 13, 2011 01:33 PM
Ill be right over!!
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Rich
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posted March 13, 2011 01:38 PM
Look like Eastern's from here. ![[Wink]](wink.gif)
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Kokopelli
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posted March 13, 2011 04:12 PM
Quit putting steroids in your quail feeder; it's not funny anymore. ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif)
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TundraWookie
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posted March 13, 2011 04:13 PM
Butterball. Eastern variety.
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knockemdown
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posted March 14, 2011 07:01 AM
guys up where I hunt call 'em "shit chickens"...
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JD
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posted March 14, 2011 04:53 PM
Shit chickens is the winner!!!
No, We got rios just south and merriams just north but these are just brain dead hybrids, they really seem to thrive but they sure are dumb bastards. There is one area where I shoot p-dogs that I've seen these dumbshits just hang around within 50 yds or so of the rifles blazing away. One landowner adjacent to that area has counted upward of 500 on his property. blah blah blah.....
Lance is the winner, now for the prize....an all expense paid trip for one full week to the Tim Anderson school of narcissistic road hunting!!! Congrats!
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TA17Rem
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posted March 14, 2011 05:41 PM
Thanks J-D..
Lance get youre will made out! youre gonna need it....
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JD
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posted March 14, 2011 06:01 PM
I figured out where Timmy finds all his information to post on the www
This is Tim doing his daily research
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Cdog911
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posted March 14, 2011 06:11 PM
Golly, tim, considering the close relationship we share, that statement would land your sorry ass in jail where I live. Maybe I ought to print it out and save it. Whaddya think, 49? Sound like a threat to you? I'm discounting the emoticon as it, like tim, is irrelevant.
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TA17Rem
Hello, I'm the legendary Tim Anderson, Southern Minneesota Know it all
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posted March 14, 2011 07:03 PM
Like I said before Lance no one has any idea of how we do things up here and the will is for incase you tip over from a heart attack. You have such a good imagination thats for sure...
Oh by the way the advice you gave on the other thread about watching what Or how I say things or I could get black-balled was good advice so thanks...
You of course should follow youre same advice since you are the one out there that is in the lime light sort to speak that can do more damage than little ol me..LOL
As for the Mr. coyote award its mine and if you want Shaw to have one just like it then he has to go win it for himself..LOL
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George Ackley
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posted March 14, 2011 09:22 PM
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We just call it [QUOTE]"turkey killin'" [/QUOTE] 'cause that's about all there is to it, compared to calling predators.
really. well then maybe its true, the game east of the Mississippi is harder to get.
the just killin quote was a bad choice of word from a sportsman.
I dont think i have had a easy turkey hunt yet
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Cdog911
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posted March 15, 2011 04:07 AM
Tim,
The true use of imagination is with those whose first impression of your statement is like yours. If the e-mails I have rec'd during the night are any indication, this is a relatively unimaginative crowd. More of your two stepping.
George,
Maybe so, and I guess it must be harder to hunt east of the Miss because I have hunted turkeys twice. In Kansas, we are allowed up to two birds. It isn't at all uncommon for a 12 year old kid to fill both his tags the first day out. For the past several years, our state agency has contemplated removing turkey from the big game list and relisting them as upland game because we have so many of them, they cause a lot of damage, farmers hate them and they're just not the same level of challenge as deer, antelope and elk. Yes, maybe "killing" was a word that could have been substituted for, but I was simply quoting what a friend of mine had said who, like me, is a coyote caller and for who, like me, turkey hunting was a vastly unrewarding venture. All I did was went out, called a few, had a few bust out, but with not so much effort, sat down, called again and killed a turkey. Next year, thinking I'd just been lucky, I did the same thing again. Haven't spent a dime on a tag since.
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knockemdown
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posted March 15, 2011 04:40 AM
Big George, spring turkey hunting actually does seem easy, as compared to calling coyotes here! Not discounting your experiences, but there is no comparison, far as the challenge goes, IMHO...
I've had some drawn out chess matches with big toms where I've been handily beaten, but have also had them commit suicide to a couple yelps. Seems like it depends on how they feel every morning?
I like to think that even if a big ol' tom turkey had a nose to wind us, he'd still be only HALF as savvy as a coyote!
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Leonard
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posted March 15, 2011 08:49 AM
Note to whoever it was that complained about Tim's spelling and punctuation. Thanks. It just made it worse.
example:
"Lance get youre will made out! youre gonna need it...."
Good hunting. LB
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George Ackley
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posted March 15, 2011 10:26 AM
looks to me, resident turkey hunter in Kansas are only 58% successful on there first bird
38% successful on the secant turkey,so I disagree with your thinking that it is common for a 12 year old to harvest 2 birds in one day. done yes but not common
I will say this, it was late last night when I seen your post and I AGAIN replied with out much thought .
now looking back what I was trying to say is our sport can be played many ways and I myself don't think there is a wrong way as long as its within the letter of the law. what I don't realize and often forget to think about sometime not all of us think alike.
hunting is what it is,, and you only get out of it,what you put into it. it's as easy as you make it and as hard as you wont it be. I hunt more then most and the day it becomes easy is the day i will look for a new sport.
knockemdown
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I like to think that even if a big ol' tom turkey had a nose to wind us, he'd still be only HALF as savvy as a coyote!
its all relative pal ,
there are many places I hunt across this country were the coyotes are way easer to harvest then any other game in that area.
so i guess like most game saying he'd still be only HALF as savvy as a coyote!
is only relative to your area your hunting
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GC
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posted March 15, 2011 11:08 AM
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I've had some drawn out chess matches with big toms where I've been handily beaten, but have also had them commit suicide to a couple yelps. Seems like it depends on how they feel every morning?
I like to think that even if a big ol' tom turkey had a nose to wind us, he'd still be only HALF as savvy as a coyote!
Surely you have had some young and dumb coyotes come hammering to the call too, right? Occasionally even coyotes volunteer themselves too easily for their own good. Overall, I'd certainly give coyotes the edge over gobblers most days in the wariness department. However, a three or four year old Ozark Mountain gobbler is a tough trophy and quite hard earned most times.
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Cdog911
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posted March 15, 2011 11:10 AM
Fair enough, George. As far as using the term "killing", I have used that, along with "whacked", "punched", "keyholed", "hammered" and a variety of others to describe the act of taking the coyote when hunting. One term I have grown to cringe at is "harvested". Let's face it - it's killing. The coyote, or the turkey, dies. End of story. I don't apologize for another person's sensitivity. They know what I mean so it doesn't really matter how I candy coat it. They're not gonna like it either way. I know you weren't ranting about that, but I thought back on this conversation this morning while working and just thought I would address the issue anyway.
And when I said things must be harder to kill east of the Miss, I did not intend that to be a slight of you or your brethren there. In some ways, that is a fact. I have my theories as to why, but that's for another day.
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Leonard
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posted March 15, 2011 12:01 PM
Well, the half baked theory coming from here is: ignored turkeys are probably naive turkeys. Hunted turkeys are probably wary turkeys. East or west. Rio Grande or Merriams.
Good hunting. LB
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posted March 15, 2011 12:26 PM
The turkeys in those pics outnumber the human population of Nebraska. I think they counted 6 1/2 people in the last census.
JDThee! I'm reading Coyote Gods right now. You and TA LOVE one another. Andy too. You 3 need to hug it out!
Edited to add Coyote Gods drivel.
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George Ackley
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posted March 15, 2011 12:50 PM
you like a challenge , try calling in and video taping a mature tom in January.
saying they aren't as smart as a coyote while hunting them in there mating season may not be a far evaluation of there smarts or lack of . most any game gets stupid when matting season come around.
as for what I have seen and believe ,,, a mature tom has it all over any coyote in the smarts department.
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I believe that turkeys hear better and see better
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JD
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posted March 15, 2011 01:39 PM
That's true George, mating season isn't a fair comparison for any game, even the wisest old buck acts like a darn fool in the middle of rut.
My question is this, do you think there is a difference in turkey behavior from one sub species to another? I guess what I mean is this, is it possible that these hybrids are dumber than an eastern or a rio. I haven't hunted turkeys elsewhere so I have nothing to compare to but to me these hybrids don't seem to bright. However the times when I've been on the Niobrara the Merriams seem spooky as hell, I'm certainly no expert, just a simple minded observation.
Lance, do you have the hybrids in your area or are they Rios?
Smithers......as far as giving Timmy a hug....I,m a little homophobic especially since we know what kind of bars he hangs out in......I think I'll pass.
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Leonard
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posted March 15, 2011 01:48 PM
Might be worthy of a separate thread although (it seems to me) that the question was answered a long time ago in the coyote's favor?
Good hunting. LB
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