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RonFin
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posted March 04, 2011 10:52 AM
Can't put it off any longer. Been using reading glasses for years. Now I need something for distance.
Went back and read the old threads here on bifocals.
Still wondering a couple of things. Which of the solutions for situations where I currently wear sunglasses? Transitions...sounds like they are too dark in low light, i.e. hunting. Two pair, one clear, one dark? I've heard the clip-on dark lenses scratch the glasses? I'm guessing two pair (one dark, one clear)is my solution. Really not ready for the big ass sunglasses that go on over the regular glasses.
What about looking through a rifle scope? Will this change? If I'm looking through the upper (distance) part of the glasses, will the reticle be out of focus?
I also see that I'll have facemask/fogging issues...Great!
And don't think I chose this site for these questions because a lot of old F's come here. I chose this site because a lot of wise old F's come here.
Thanks guys.
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Cdog911
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posted March 04, 2011 11:12 AM
I didn't do well with contacts, so those were out for me and fogging was just a fact of life, if and when it happens which isn't enough to worry about.
I tried the transitions and hated them. I also am in the 25% who cannot wear polycarbonate. Hate them, too.
I have lined bifocals now that are wider than tall so I can hold my head still and pan my eyes L and R. I took excellent care of the first pair I got and when my benefits allowed me to switch them out, I ordered my new ones, in clear, and had the old pair which was just barely any different prescription-wise sent back to tint the lenses. I got them one shade less than welding goggles LOL and it only cost me $25.
I don't like transitions as far as the tint goes because they darken before I want them to when hunting and I like to have clear lenses when I need them.
My suggestion is get your regular clear every day pair through a good optometrist outlet and have a pair of sunglasses done with the same RX at a cheap outlet like Wally World or wherever. For me, having two pairs is well worth the extra change I spent to do it.
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Kokopelli
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posted March 04, 2011 11:24 AM
I wear no line, transitions. Other than they tried to kill me for the first few days (you're gonna love stair steps) they're no problem, now. Not too dark at night & scopes are ok. I wear the over sunglasses (polarized) when bowfishing. Good luck. ![[Cool]](cool.gif)
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Leonard
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posted March 04, 2011 01:13 PM
It happens that I just got two new pair, two weeks ago. Frames and lenses. Blended trifocals and transitions, for the first time. Polycarbonate. Umm, I sort of wonder why I got the second pair as tinted sunglasses because these transitions get pretty dark? Anyway, I did. My coverage was pretty good and I paid $400 for both, including some pricy frames, one half frame. The sunglasses they suggested putting the antireflective coating on the inside and I agreed. A $90 option/ouch!
Looking through the upper portion of the lens viewing through a scope is okay but I do have the ocular lens screwed out quite a bit. I'm far sighted. According to the optometrist, lasik isn't a good choice for me although it works great for nearsighted individuals. Driving at night, you might wind up with flares and stars. (I think?)
I mostly remove my glasses at the range for bench work and using binoculars. Hunting, I wear them. I am not a fan of contacts. Tried them, didn't like them, at all. Once I got used to wearing glasses, and having extremely light ones, it's not so bad. You just have to take care of them. I never use paper of any sort to clean the lenses.
Good hunting. LB
edit: koko, do you know what transitions mean? If you mean lenses that darken in sunlight, kool. But if you mean "no line" transitions; meaning graduated or blended bifocals, that's different.
edit: oh yeah, my sunglasses are polarized as well. Spare no expense, I guess?
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Kokopelli
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posted March 04, 2011 03:06 PM
I've actually seen 'transition' used both ways. Mine get dark in direct sunlight. Not so much while driving in the truck. They are also the 'no line' bi-focals, and plastic for light weight.
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Leonard
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posted March 04, 2011 04:28 PM
Yeah, but "Transitions" is a trademark name for lenses that darken in strong sunlight and lighten on cloudy days or indoors.
The blended trifocal gives you a focus at normal reading distances like 16" and also around 30" inches or so, for the machinist, (for instance) that needs to have perfectly focused vision without sticking his nose into hot flying chips. Many useful purposes for blended trifocals, like reading your dash instruments while driving. For me, single distance line bifocals are a severe handicap.
Another thing is that polycarbonate is stronger thinner and lighter than plastic. I'm guessing that regular hi impact plastic is acrylic or lexan, but I'm not sure? I don't understand why Lance can't wear polycarbonate? For me, they are easily worth the price.
Good hunting. LB
edit: PS when I said previously that I remove my glasses at the range, I don't mean while shooting. I mean I take them off to look through the spotting scope.
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posted March 04, 2011 06:02 PM
Tried em all, hated contacts. I just got two new glasses. a set of normal transition get dark auto matically, but not in the truck, clear when they are clear. second pair are sunglasses get dark in the truck, light in the shade, even when "clear" they have a slight tint, polarized which is way cool really enhances vision, I love em. both are polycarbonate.
You have to try different face shades,masks, tight under your eyes so they vent away from the glasses or loose under the nose so vapor is not caught on yo lenses.
I just see better with glasses over all see more coyotes.
Carl
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Cdog911
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posted March 04, 2011 06:10 PM
Elbee,
The problem I had with polycarbonate was that when I wore them, they literally felt like my eyes were being pulled out of the sockets while trying to focus through them. The tech said that they're denser and ground at a different angle, or some such stuff, and that about 25% of people simply do not tolerate them for the same reasons as I was experiencing. Worst experience I ever had with glasses.
I'm in lined bifocals - could not wear the blended ones due to what I would call the "fishbowl effect". I tried them for a week and had such a migraine right behind me eyes that I ended up going without glasses at all for the back half of that last day. I suspect I'll be needing tri's before too long as I notice when I sit at the table with my netbook, I'm better off with no glasses at all because neither part of the lens gives me a good view. Sitting here at my desk, the top portion is crystal clear.
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posted March 06, 2011 09:18 AM
I've found the best deal on glasses to be costco. I get free vision checkups under my insurance plan at Nationwide Vison Centers. I take the prescription to Costco and get the same quality for half the price. For frames, I get frames that can be twisted up and spring back into shape. I believe they are made of copper berealium(SP?). I get the poly carbonate lens because they are light with the scratch resistant coatings so they last. I get progessive lens that allow for me to see far thru the top and up close thru the bottom of the lens. Lastly, I get transition so they are both my indoor and outdoor glasses. My current pair are a little over a year old and still working well. My last pair lasted me almost four years. When I shoot thru a scope, I look thru the scope over the top of the glasses so that isn't an issue. BTW: you can adjust the diopter adjustment on you scopes to match your glasses. Hope this helps.
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posted March 06, 2011 10:01 AM
Well, I am turning the big 5-0 in 3 months, and have been using reading glasses for about 4 years.
My optometrist put me in contacts where my dominant eye, (right), was adjusted for distance, and my left was adjusted for up close.
I found that my shooting suffered, especially when shooting sporting clays. I switched back to my old contacts where they were both adjusted for distance, and it got better--maybe it was just a mental block, I don't know, but it improved.
I just picked up my Multi-Focal contacts this morning, and they seem to work better--both are adjusted for distance and up close.
I still have to use reading glasses if the print is really small, but I think they will work.
The problem is that the damn things are expeeensive!
Guess that is the price of growing more mature--good luck in the lens search!
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posted March 06, 2011 11:41 AM
OK, question to those of you who have dealt with declining vision. Personnaly, my vision has been declining the past few years. I have purchased off the shelf reading glasses to wear under my hood while tig welding. Without them, my work quality has deteriorated. My question is in regards to the surgaries available to improve vision. Has anyone had it done, and would you recommend it/do it again?
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Leonard
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posted March 06, 2011 07:28 PM
Geordie, you can buy cheaters for inside your helmut and then wear your glasses besides. They are rated just like reading glasses, 2.0, etc. This will help a lot, because you can't always get down real close, and overhead is especially difficult because your bifocals are in the lower part of the lens.
Good hunting. LB
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RagnCajn
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posted March 06, 2011 07:44 PM
I had Lasik, would do it again. Best move I ever made concerning my vision.
I can shoot iron sited rifles again.
I wore glasses from the time I can remember. When I went in to get this done, I was somthing like 20/270. I am now 20/15
Edit to add- I still need reading glasses in low light conditions.
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Leonard
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posted March 06, 2011 07:50 PM
Yes, but you are probably near sighted, Randy. It sounds to me like Geordie is far sighted, like I am. I was told just a couple weeks ago that lasik for people like me, is not a perfected deal, yet
Good hunting. LB
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RagnCajn
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posted March 06, 2011 08:47 PM
Probably so Leonard. Hence my custom title.
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Leonard
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posted March 07, 2011 07:38 AM
Don't believe it, Randy. I very much enjoy your company on the campouts and your input on Huntmasters. However, I think your custom title is hilarious. If you don't, let me know.
Good hunting. LB
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Kokopelli
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posted March 07, 2011 07:59 AM
El Bee;
Might I suggest a "Tony Chachere's Pro Staff" title for the nice Mr. Ragn.
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posted March 07, 2011 04:06 PM
I really liked th old title and thought it was a hoot. I can't get the new title to open. Is it better than the old?
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Leonard
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posted March 07, 2011 04:24 PM
Well, I think so, but I will change it back if you want?
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posted March 07, 2011 06:39 PM
OK, I got it to open by copy and paste. I think the original one more defined my life.
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posted March 07, 2011 08:09 PM
Okay, maybe tomorrow?
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posted March 07, 2011 08:21 PM
Not a clue ![[Confused]](confused.gif)
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RonFin
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posted March 08, 2011 08:38 AM
Thanks guys for all the input. There is a lot more to this than I realized.
Turns out my optomitrist has a web site that is quite comprehensive with explanations of the things you all are writing about, but it's your opinions based on experience that I appreciate.
Kind of like the details of a custom rifle, lots of choices and for a lot of reasons, I'd like to get it right the first time. Also like a custom rifle, I'm convinced that I should get what I want and not really look at the money.
I'm leaning toward two pair. A clear pair and a sunglasses pair. I read that progressives are "the most popular multifocal lenses sold in the US". I sure don't usually go with the crowd but, maybe this time I will.
Looks like polycarbonate lenses are the place to start if I'm not in Cdogs 25%. Anti-reflective, polarized, and scratch resistant too.
As for frames, I'm not real vain, but maybe I need some help deciding on frame style. My wife gives me grief almost every night when she sees me wearing my nuke-proof, huge, indestructable reading glasses. I know some of you have these because I see them everywhere. When I told the doc that I needed an indestructable pair, I ended up with these. They are, however, a fine form of birth control.
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Leonard
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posted March 08, 2011 09:31 AM
The narrower frames are "IN" these days, like Palin's signature frameless and square glasses. I have a pair of half frames, and the sunglasses are Flexon, which are bulletproof, spring stainless steel. The narrow frames present a bit of a problem with a departure point between the progressive lower portion and the upper part for distance.
Several years ago I had a problem when I was fitted. The woman commanded me to "look at me" and I instinctively lowered my head and looked her in the eye. So, she makes a dot and when I got the glasses, they were set up so that I was lowering my head, as instructed, but normally, I sort of have a chin up tilt to my head, watching TV or driving, etc.
Therefore, resist the impulse to abnormally stare at the fitter because this will put the progressive portion blurring everything below eye level as you look off in the distance.
It also means that you have to look through the lower part to read instead of dropping your head. I fear I'm not explaining the problem adequately.
Good luck, LB
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posted April 06, 2011 09:50 PM
Got my new glasses last week. Progressive (blended), polycarbonate, stainless steel frames, and no transitions (auto darkining).
Real suprised how much I like them. Even wore them driving home from the optomitrist! Geez, I had no idea how much detail I wasn't seeing.
Tried wearing them when walking in uneven country. Probably looked drunk. My feet would contact the ground either before or after I expected them to. I believe a couple of you pointed out getting used to walking with them on would be a challenge. Yup!
Thanks for the advise.
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