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Posted by Gene Charne (Member # 3719) on November 26, 2010, 05:46 AM:
 
Did a little lurking around last night and stumbled back on Predatormasters. Yes, I am in the banned category but for some reason was able to view the site.

Looks like the PM boys are still going strong. After reading all the garbage on HM, Desert Hunter and the deceased Predator Monsters, a logical fellow would assume that the likes of Dan Carey and his land of the banned posse crashed and burned the servers of PM, raped and pillaged the village and beheaded the emporeror and his court. No personal shot at you, Dan, I'm a past client of yours, but I'd suggest that you stick to your gunsmithing, not internet smearing.

But, let me get back on track and say Not so fast, my friend! Looks like things are going well over there and the same powers that be are large and in charge. The notorious Red Frog is still very active, B Bar and Mock, can't forget Java4, plus other active moderators. The site is alive and well and still puts out the very BEST in predator hunting information. Pretty obvious who the bad guys were and it ain't the above mentioned. If you've ever been banned over there, chances are that you greatly deserved it. If you could go back in time, I'd suggest, or maybe as Glen Campbell sang, "try a little kindness"

I'm going to draft an email apologizing for my past actions on that site and comments I've made on other sites, will beg for forgiveness and hope to hell to get reinstated.

Hands down STILL THE BEST DAMN predator hunting site!

I'll see you over at PM

Gene OUT

[ November 26, 2010, 04:37 PM: Message edited by: Gene Charne ]
 

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Posted by Andy L (Member # 642) on November 26, 2010, 06:01 AM:
 
In light of recent info, Im doing something LB hates. It will all come out in the wash.

[ November 28, 2010, 10:50 AM: Message edited by: Andy L ]
 

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Posted by Nikonut (Member # 188) on November 26, 2010, 07:51 AM:
 
I think we have a troll! LOL

That is so rediculously lame that even Redfrog wouldn't believe it... I think I'll send it to him! LOL

Nikonut
 

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Posted by Dave Allen (Member # 3102) on November 26, 2010, 10:51 AM:
 
Brody, perhaps ??
 

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Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on November 26, 2010, 10:53 AM:
 
Welcome to The New Huntmasters, Gene Charne. Glad to have you on board.

Good hunting. LB
 

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Posted by Semp (Member # 3074) on November 26, 2010, 10:55 AM:
 
That's some good shit Charne's smoking. Got any to spare?
 

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Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on November 26, 2010, 12:46 PM:
 
Well, I really have to reexamine my hospitality policy. This asshole had no good intentions, just wants to cause discord and I have to wonder what kind of person lives for this? I'm thinking he won't be back so I might just as well delete his bullshit, but I think I will leave it just to show that what he thinks is good, is nothing of the sort. Here, it stays, over there it's like a duck on a June bug. Yeah, figure it out.

Good hunting. LB
 

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Posted by Kokopelli (Member # 633) on November 26, 2010, 02:32 PM:
 
El Bee;
I believe that it was recently mentioned that we cut you no slack in order to keep you fit & ready to deal with the dip sticks that crawl out of a coyotes asshole and post here just to stir shit.

Welcome back.
 

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Posted by Krustyklimber (Member # 72) on November 26, 2010, 02:33 PM:
 
No he's absolutely right, I got banned from PM, because I am unkind.

Krusty
 

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Posted by Andy L (Member # 642) on November 26, 2010, 02:38 PM:
 
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[ November 28, 2010, 10:51 AM: Message edited by: Andy L ]
 

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Posted by Clank (Member # 3687) on November 26, 2010, 03:45 PM:
 
I havent posted on that site for about a year. After some of the people on there was bashing a guy for hunting with 20 cal and smaller on yote & fox. At first i thought it was some people joking with him. Wrong on my part. Never did see the mods there do any thing about it.I just dont think its right to bash what some one likes to hunt with it may be all they got or can aford. But what the hell do i know i am still a young pup.
 

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Posted by Gene Charne (Member # 3719) on November 26, 2010, 04:12 PM:
 
imho, sites like Huntmasters are ok. True, you guys really just chew the fat and piss and moan, while Predatormasters gets down to the nitty gritty of the sport of predator hunting. HM is a 'home' for banned, misinformed and just plain amateurs. Everybody needs a home.

Honestly, not alot of knowledge to be learned on this site. Your greatest hunter may in fact be Andy L., the 4'-11" version of "Dog the Bounty Hunter". This foul mouthed Napololeon sounds like he at least attempts to hunt once a year. The rest of you 'type' about hunting 365 days a year.

Andy L., I submit your name for Huntmasters Hunter of the Year! I also have a job offer that someone wants me to pass on to you: the Chulua County Carnival is looking for a participant for the dwarf tossing contest. you IN?

[ November 26, 2010, 04:26 PM: Message edited by: Gene Charne ]
 

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Posted by Andy L (Member # 642) on November 26, 2010, 05:11 PM:
 
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[ November 28, 2010, 10:52 AM: Message edited by: Andy L ]
 

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Posted by Dan Carey (Member # 987) on November 26, 2010, 05:19 PM:
 
He will fit right in at predator masters sucks.

Who let this ass kissin son of a bitch in the door? Are we that desperate for members here?

[ November 26, 2010, 05:55 PM: Message edited by: Dan Carey ]
 

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Posted by Andy L (Member # 642) on November 26, 2010, 05:31 PM:
 
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[ November 28, 2010, 10:52 AM: Message edited by: Andy L ]
 

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Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on November 26, 2010, 05:46 PM:
 
How about mojo gene?

[ November 26, 2010, 05:48 PM: Message edited by: Leonard ]
 

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Posted by Andy L (Member # 642) on November 26, 2010, 05:49 PM:
 


[ November 28, 2010, 10:53 AM: Message edited by: Andy L ]
 

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Posted by Nikonut (Member # 188) on November 26, 2010, 05:58 PM:
 
The name Gene Charne rings a bell from the past...

There seems to only be one in the USA and he lives in NJ. I was thinking one of the dickheads from PM went by that as an alias. I'll have to do some checking around. Might be Robb. LOL!

I'm thinking maybe,"Carnie" like a dwarf from the PM circus!

Maybe we should let Andy scramble this clown's "genes".
 

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Posted by Bopeye (Member # 907) on November 26, 2010, 06:33 PM:
 
I was wondering where all the stupid sumbitches were hanging out. Gene re-affirmed it for me. They are still at PMS.

You must be a brand new rookie dumbass to say some of the shit you did Gene.

Go take a crap with Mock. He likes it with friends.
 

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Posted by Andy L (Member # 642) on November 26, 2010, 07:24 PM:
 


[ November 28, 2010, 10:54 AM: Message edited by: Andy L ]
 

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Posted by 3 Toes (Member # 1327) on November 26, 2010, 07:37 PM:
 
True story Andy, I had some hunters here a few years ago that have one of the private "skybox" (whatever they are) at Bristol. Said I could go and have it whenever. Never did. Not really into Nascar. Pretty much got an open invite to any race I want with BassPro. Guess I should go sometime. Drives some of my wifes family nuts that I don't because they are race fanatics.
 

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Posted by Inoculation (Member # 2229) on November 26, 2010, 08:16 PM:
 
Man, didn't think I was going to get a laugh today. Good thing, coming over here and reading this thread. Now I am happy.
 

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Posted by Andy L (Member # 642) on November 26, 2010, 08:18 PM:
 


[ November 28, 2010, 10:55 AM: Message edited by: Andy L ]
 

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Posted by Gene Charne (Member # 3719) on November 26, 2010, 09:33 PM:
 
Nascar? Well, Andy, I should of known! Dale Jr fan, right?
 

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Posted by Nikonut (Member # 188) on November 26, 2010, 09:46 PM:
 
Hey Andy...

Maybe we can get over to the LBL hunt this year! I'll introduce you to James(Bopeye), he's one of the good guys. He helped start that hunt many years ago! Almost as much fun as the Okla hunt!

Gene, You sure seem to be having fun... why don't you come clean and tell us who you really are?

Nikonut
 

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Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on November 26, 2010, 09:50 PM:
 
Listen, Amigo. I have a lot of patience with shit stirrers. But, if all you are going to do is take shots at members and other provocative comments, I might have to punch your ticket, as much as I hate the thought. ElBee
 

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Posted by Patterson (Member # 3304) on November 26, 2010, 09:52 PM:
 
"my first coyote", "what am I doing wrong", "Whats the best caliber", "what sounds to use", "called in my first coyote ever and didnt kill it but im gonna make a thread about the stupid fucking stand just so you retards can read about my fuck up"...PM is awesome
 

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Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on November 26, 2010, 09:56 PM:
 
That's a good one!
 

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Posted by Bryan J (Member # 106) on November 26, 2010, 10:07 PM:
 
Good lord if SLC is the one in Utah, you may as well have come in here and asked "Where is a good place to go call coyotes?"
 

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Posted by Patterson (Member # 3304) on November 26, 2010, 10:24 PM:
 
Dang it I missed that one. Here....

"what time of day is best", "how far away do you put the caller", "do you use a range finder", "what do you do if there is more than one", "f$$%%#g farmer/rancher wont let me hunt so im gonna write a nasty thread about him even though he owns the land and I f$$cked it up cause im a jackass"
 

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Posted by TA17Rem (Member # 794) on November 26, 2010, 10:39 PM:
 
"How in the world am i supposed to hunt in snow?"

"IYote with hair missing on rear legs"

" Man shoots pet dog for growling, peeing on grill "

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Rancher has seen a cougar three times in last few weeks.Think I can call it "

LOL's..
 

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Posted by Bryan J (Member # 106) on November 27, 2010, 08:10 AM:
 
What is your favorite song?

Seriously though this is probably just a ploy to increase traffic. So they can justify the 62% increase for advertising.
 

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Posted by Rich (Member # 112) on November 27, 2010, 08:24 AM:
 
Hey Gene Charne, do you know a real classy guy named Dan Carey?
 

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Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on November 27, 2010, 09:03 AM:
 
....and are you top man with Dan, the man? And, do you live within the "Phoenix Triangle of Death"? And, do you have a signature device, ripped off and taken for your own? No? Well, do people call you Fruit Loops, to your face? Do you take more pictures of dead coyotes than Glenn Guess? Or eaglerock? Inquiring minds want to no.

Good hunting. LB
 

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Posted by Bopeye (Member # 907) on November 27, 2010, 02:31 PM:
 
Looks like Gene accomplished part of what he was wanting to do. He got me permantly banned from PMS, which I could give a flying rat's ass. Thought I would check out what was for sale over there today, first time in months and this is what it said.

"Your account has been banned or locked. This is a permanent ban. If the Administrator has specified a reason for this ban, you will find it below.

Bopeye PLATINUM MEMBER Member # 907 posted November 26, 2010 06:33 PM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I was wondering where all the stupid sumbitches were hanging out. Gene re-affirmed it for me. They are still at PMS. You must be a brand new rookie dumbass to say some of the shit you did Gene. Go take a crap with Mock. He likes it with friends. -------------------- AKA TATER SALAD just because I couldn't remember my password for here. Thanks to Leonard I feel like myself again."

Hope we run into each other someday Gene.
 

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Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on November 27, 2010, 02:52 PM:
 
Yeah, they are monitoring what is said. I got a very official looking letterhead denial from their marketing director, Jeff Mock, early this morning.

So, unilateral banning a longtime member for words on another venue? That's pretty hardcore, ain't it? No appeal process, at all?

Good hunting. LB
 

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Posted by Dan Carey (Member # 987) on November 27, 2010, 03:05 PM:
 
Damn, I forget, was it him (mock) that posted he wanted Gary to give him a BJ while he was taking a shit.

What a two faced son of a bitch he is. That motherfucker don't do shit for the AZ predator hunting clubs. But yet he has his fuckin nose up that shit hole pms's ass. I think he was dreaming about himself and old pussgut.



[ November 28, 2010, 11:06 AM: Message edited by: Dan Carey ]
 

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Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on November 27, 2010, 03:11 PM:
 
Showing your age, Dan. (the man) How could you forget that little gem?

Good hunting. LB
 

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Posted by Dan Carey (Member # 987) on November 27, 2010, 03:14 PM:
 
I don't forget or forgive anything ever. Your buddy mock is on my shit list and that ain't good.
 

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Posted by Bopeye (Member # 907) on November 27, 2010, 06:19 PM:
 
I have only been a member on PM since May '01. Those nutsucks just can't handle it when someone speaks truth. It for sure isn't what it use to be. I was a model member there until about 4 years ago. Got to the point where I couldn't handle all the deceitful shit going on there and the canned praise along with the Foxpro mafia running things. Got banned a couple times and had several nasty grams. Quit going there much and have only been visiting about 3 or 4 times per year. There are a hell of a lot more real coyote hunters NOT on predator masters than those that do coyote hunt. Most (95%) are just internet heroes. You have Mock, Frog, Barry the Fairy, Java and a host of others that talk a good game, but that's about it.
They constantly regurgitate the same bullshit they have been reading on that phony, bullshit site for years.
I am truly glad they permenently banned me so I can feel truly free to say any damn thing I want to about them. I kept my standing so I could check out what was for sale. Now all bets are off.
I would appreciate anyone letting me know who this Gene Charne faggot really is, so I can return the favor. You can email me at hobie66@ymail.com

 

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Posted by the bearhunter (Member # 3552) on November 27, 2010, 06:28 PM:
 
does anyone here know the name of this site???. god-dammit..it's hunting season
 

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Posted by the bearhunter (Member # 3552) on November 27, 2010, 06:29 PM:
 
oh, and by the way.. my wife's name is Denise
 

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Posted by Semp (Member # 3074) on November 27, 2010, 06:32 PM:
 
Hey Bopeye, you've been on PMS over 9 years! Banning you for what you say on another board is a load of shit.

There's got to be a way to make those assholes pay.
 

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Posted by Bopeye (Member # 907) on November 27, 2010, 07:04 PM:
 
Well hell bearhunter........go hunt then god dammit!!! I am loading up for a whole different kind of game.
 

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Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on November 27, 2010, 07:30 PM:
 
We are getting strong indications right now that Gene Gene the Dancing Machine is one of the central players over at PMS. Ain't that a shame? Twerp is thought not to be smart enough, at this juncture.

Good hunting. LB
 

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Posted by Andy L (Member # 642) on November 27, 2010, 08:38 PM:
 


[ November 28, 2010, 10:56 AM: Message edited by: Andy L ]
 

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Posted by Az-Hunter (Member # 17) on November 27, 2010, 08:53 PM:
 
I don't know Andy; My hunch is this ole boy isn't a TA clone? Might be setting you up for a fall from "slapper"....to slap-ee?
 

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Posted by Andy L (Member # 642) on November 27, 2010, 09:12 PM:
 
Could be Vic. Im sure you would like that. But, time will tell. Wouldnt be the first time.
 

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Posted by Bopeye (Member # 907) on November 27, 2010, 09:23 PM:
 
I just wish they weren't such a cowardly bastard.
Put a name up?
 

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Posted by Andy L (Member # 642) on November 27, 2010, 10:21 PM:
 


[ November 28, 2010, 10:56 AM: Message edited by: Andy L ]
 

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Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on November 27, 2010, 10:34 PM:
 
Vic has the wrong idea. Trolls aren't physical bad asses, they would much rather have orgasms while keyboarding with the other hand. They ain't normal.

Good hunting. LB
 

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Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on November 27, 2010, 11:06 PM:
 
Put a name up? Well, the fab four have been mentioned. Robb Krause always deserves consideration. Fruit Loops, of course. Clever Gary. Dan, (the man) Me, yours truly. And, a few honorable mentions, not mentioned.

Polls are still open. ElBee
 

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Posted by Az-Hunter (Member # 17) on November 28, 2010, 08:48 AM:
 
I didn't mean in a "physical sense" Leonard, although Andy made a veiled physical response to Senor Charne if he met him. I was refering to an intellectual-witty-acerbic-higher level repartee; than Andy is capable of dishing out, thats all. I get the sense Gene would /all ready has, the upper hand in a pissin' contest, and if I was Andy, I'd just ignore any more banter, rather than just walk into the sucker punch?
 

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Posted by Andy L (Member # 642) on November 28, 2010, 09:01 AM:
 
Thanks for the advice oh great one.
 

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Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on November 28, 2010, 10:24 AM:
 
I had another denial in my in box, this morning. I just wish the rest would be as prompt!

Good hunting. LB

PS you two, quit the snipping.
 

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Posted by Andy L (Member # 642) on November 28, 2010, 10:48 AM:
 
He cant help it. Must be something in the water in the Sulpher Springs Valley. Makes people like him and his movie partner think that speaking like a Harvard graduate automatically makes you look more intelligent when really, its all just words that dont mean any more than speaking like an Okie.

Smoke and mirrors. Stick to killin coyotes Vic. Your good at that. Otherwise? Your not as smart as you think.
 

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Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on November 28, 2010, 01:11 PM:
 
I'd take your side, Andy, but recently was told that you like that a**hole Clevenger more than me.....so, quit being a dick! Right, Vic?

Good hunting. LB
 

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Posted by Dan Carey (Member # 987) on November 28, 2010, 02:02 PM:
 
Damn LJB, you promised you weren't going to tell Andy you knew.
 

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Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on November 28, 2010, 02:53 PM:
 
Promises shamises, don't matter no how. It's not Clever Gary, now it's Classy Gary, ponytail boy.

Good hunting. LB

Sorry about the shots about long hair, Niko
 

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Posted by Andy L (Member # 642) on November 28, 2010, 03:04 PM:
 
Nope, dont like either one of you over the other. Im a dick? Well, then you probably dont want me around. Good nuff.

Vic, you can still fuck off.
 

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Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on November 28, 2010, 03:58 PM:
 
Dammit, Andy. I have to to stop kidding around with you if you can't take a little teasing now and then. I thought I could fuck around with ya, but seems like you are starting to take things seriously? Okay, how's this; Vic's the dick.

On a side note, since Gene, Gene The Dancing Machine has us quarreling amongst ourselves, etc.

I just got off the phone with Randy Reeves at PH and he has a guy called brodie with the same IP and email as Gene. Same thing, raising hell being obnoxious, etc. He suspended him, I should probably do the same?

Good hunting. LB
 

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Posted by Dave Allen (Member # 3102) on November 28, 2010, 04:10 PM:
 
Remember this on page one ?
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Brody, perhaps ??
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Yes I'd suspend him, despite your free-speech philosphies, you're being a "Dick" by letting this guy fuck with membership..

I backed off last night, because I didn't want banned. I don't give a shit anymore, do what you want, and no I'm not the "sensative" type.

Just callin' it like I see it.
 

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Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on November 28, 2010, 04:51 PM:
 
Well Dave, that may have been intuitive or just because you frequent that board, whereas, I hardly ever do. If you had bothered to explain a little more, we might have got it. But why the hell would you worry, or not worry anymore about being suspended? Even calling me a dick for not banning the asshole is not justification, as far as I'm concerned. And, no I don't like being called a dick, but you are truly sensitive and still entitled to your opinion.

Three pages and Randy Reeves has to spell it out for me. Okay, whatever.

Dave, you sound actually peeved, but why?

Good hunting. LB
 

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Posted by Dan Carey (Member # 987) on November 28, 2010, 05:15 PM:
 
"I just got off the phone with Randy Reeves at PH and he has a guy called brodie with the same IP and email as Gene."

POST the IP address, hell I would.
 

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Posted by Nikonut (Member # 188) on November 28, 2010, 05:22 PM:
 
Damnit Leonard...

If you don't stop teasing me about my long hair I'm probably going to cry. Ya, right... I'm a lot thicker skinned than that!

Everyone has taken some of this stuff too seriuosly lately. Why can't we all be friends and have a big group hug?

I've got to get a pair of knee pads if I'm going to keep this up!!!

Edited for spelling!

[ November 28, 2010, 05:24 PM: Message edited by: Nikonut ]
 

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Posted by Dave Allen (Member # 3102) on November 28, 2010, 05:27 PM:
 
Leonard, I'm peeved because twice now, that I've seen. You have allowed a new guy to come in and immediately start throwing cyber punches at long time members.

That Sir would indicate that you could give a shit less about long time members.

You might be surprised that some guys have had, your back on other sites. Yet you allow these mentioned individuals to come in and "smack" your membership.

If I spotted a trouble maker on another site, thats simply "irrelevant"

You had the opportunity, to blow them out and support the guys who stick with you. You failed to do so.
 

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Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on November 28, 2010, 05:33 PM:
 
Okay, I see where you're coming from. It is not my intention to abuse or allow the members to be disrespected, I guess I'm just hung up on free speech. You know, the one about I may not agree with you but I will defend your right to express yourself/paraphrasing, and a bad job of it to boot.

Dan you want his IP? Okay I will look it up, everything I have. BRB

edit:
"That Sir would indicate that you could give a shit less about long time members."
Not true, and you know it.

[ November 28, 2010, 05:39 PM: Message edited by: Leonard ]
 

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Posted by TA17Rem (Member # 794) on November 28, 2010, 05:40 PM:
 
Welcome to the dog eat dog world of huntmasters..

Anyone need a band-aid???
 

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Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on November 28, 2010, 05:42 PM:
 
Mojo Gene:log in
Last Post IP: 65.122.119.170
Registration IP: 67.186.204.193
Email Address: mojocritter333@hotmail.com

edit: Andy, I'm trying to get you on your cell but somebody named Dave says to leave a message so I guess your number has changed?

[ November 28, 2010, 06:11 PM: Message edited by: Leonard ]
 

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Posted by DAA (Member # 11) on November 28, 2010, 06:13 PM:
 
Lot of that going around lately. Douche bags posting under multiple user names from the same IP, that is.

Bad enough when they are just bad actors at every turn. But at least somebody like that, you just chalk them up as one more worthless shit stirring jack ass. The worlds full of 'em, easy enough to ignore one more.

It's the ones who act "normal" under one username and act like a completely different person showing their true fukwad colors under a different user name that crack me up though. Just as easy to spot as the first type. But, it is kind of entertaining, actually, to see them making posts acting like a "good guy" under one name and knowing it's the same two faced worthless fuk that is posting under the other name. All the while, the idiot not realizing how many people actually know exactly who they are and what they are up to. Especially when it's someone who you know their real name and where they really live that is doing it.

Mostly makes me wonder how much it must suck to be them, to have nothing better to do, or to be getting their rocks off with such moronic juvenile stuff.

Idiots, no matter how you slice it.

- DAA
 

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Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on November 28, 2010, 06:50 PM:
 
Agree. Total mystery why grown men act like assholes on the Internet. Like Robb Krause said; "Because I can" is pathetic. Because he can. Makes him a worthless sob, in my book. People that go to extreme lengths to hide their identity so they can say and do things they could never get away with, face to face, are complete cowards. No other word for it.

Good hunting. LB
 

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Posted by MI VHNTR (Member # 3370) on November 28, 2010, 06:57 PM:
 

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Yeah, they are monitoring what is said. I got a very official looking letterhead denial from their marketing director, Jeff Mock, early this morning.

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Banning you for what you say on another board is a load of shit.

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An internet detective working for PMS is at it again. It sure is a sad state of affairs when the so-called adults over there are that insecure that they have to resort to this BS.

Maybe this Richard F. Cranium is in training for the halfricans internet censorship squad. He can monitor other websites and go tell his secret gang of spies what is being said about them all over the 'net. Pure horseschit.
 

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Posted by JoeF (Member # 228) on November 28, 2010, 06:59 PM:
 
I don't get the attraction, either.

No life? Nobody loves em?

WTF?

I'm actually much softer spoken and more soft-stepped on the internet than I am in person.
 

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Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on November 28, 2010, 07:11 PM:
 
And, for that, we are most grateful, Joe. Easterners are a little different, but it's okay, we still like ya.

Good hunting. LB
 

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Posted by Dan Carey (Member # 987) on November 28, 2010, 07:25 PM:
 
"Yeah, they are monitoring what is said. I got a very official looking letterhead denial from their marketing director, Jeff Mock, early this morning."

Did he happen to say anything about lending a helping hand the the local predator hunting club in Tucson? Last I heard they were looking for some members to keep the club going. Seems he has had his head so far up pms's ass he don't even know they exist.

[ November 28, 2010, 07:27 PM: Message edited by: Dan Carey ]
 

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Posted by Bopeye (Member # 907) on November 28, 2010, 07:52 PM:
 
Just goes to prove what has been said about Mock, Java, Barry the Fairy, Redfag and a whole host of other wannabes at PMS. They are pitiful pussies that aren't man enough to say anything to your face. They have to sneak around and solicit responses from people. Some would call that entrapment, I call it being a pussy.
Must've really bothered them when I reminded them that Mock didn't like taking a crap alone and that he needed "special attention" while doing it.
PMS will be no loss to me, but I love it when they do cowardly shit like this. Just proves my point every time.
 

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Posted by Nikonut (Member # 188) on November 28, 2010, 07:52 PM:
 
Someone is missing a great money making possibility here... imagine a pre-registration site that could record your true identity before you could join an online forum!

Sure would end a lot of drama! These keypad dickwads would cease to exist if they couldn't post in obscurity without impunity!

I like the way George Ackley, Dan Carey, Dave Allen and a few others use their real names. I don't use my name but I sure don't hide who I am. Nikonut... AKA, Tom Ciambella!

What the heck, very few can even spell Nikonut right, imagine trying to spell Ciambella!
 

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Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on November 28, 2010, 07:59 PM:
 
He said words to the effect that I could take his name off the list of suspects. There have been anonymous and untraceable emails from a couple of helpful souls stating that PMS backroom staff is yucking it up and also that they are the source. Again, these emails say that the purpose is to coax negative comments about PMS and use those comments as justification for banning them from their board. As Bopeye has said, it has a certain ring of truth, and he got the axe right away for a few negative comments.

However, it could be part of the plan. All orchestrated by the same source. Now, why they would go to such trouble, when they have never needed justification, in the past, this is beyond my understanding?

Andy has been getting a few emails too. The charge is along the same general theme, the fab four are responsible, it's a huge plot aimed at members they don't like.

I am not accusing their star chamber, just relating what is said in these (4) emails. Hard to believe. I give them a little more credit than to stoop to this shit.

Good hunting. LB
 

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Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on November 28, 2010, 08:06 PM:
 
Tom Ciambella! Never heard of him? Are you sure?

Good hunting. LB
 

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Posted by Nikonut (Member # 188) on November 29, 2010, 12:11 AM:
 
I know Leonard...

No one knows me and very few care!

I agree the current crew running PM doesn't need any justification to ban someone so why go through this kind of effort. There are only two people in their backroom that might go that low in my opinion, RedF and MattM...

The rest of that bunch think they are so far above everyone else that the rest of us don't matter!

Nikonut
 

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Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on November 29, 2010, 07:47 AM:
 
Another name I never heard before; MattM? Does he have a nickname, like we used to call you Little Beaver? Is Berry really the brains behind the curtain? He'd make a good Red Ryder 'cause he has a cowboy hat.

Good hunting. LB

guess Andy is still mad, just like Gene, Gene the Dancing Machine wanted? Ya gotta be tough to play on the Internet.
 

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Posted by Nikonut (Member # 188) on November 29, 2010, 09:21 AM:
 
The only brains behind that outfit would be FastTalk Mock... he's one hell of a used car salesman! He plans to own PM someday soon and the rest of them are too stupid to see it coming.

MattM as in Java! Heard he has a brain tumor.
 

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Posted by Semp (Member # 3074) on November 29, 2010, 09:54 AM:
 

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I don't use my name but I sure don't hide who I am. Nikonut... AKA, Tom Ciambella!

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Thanks. I'll sign you up for a few porn ads and solicitations from the KKK. That should raise your mailman's eyebrow a little.

Just kidding.

BTW, the Patriot Guard Riders is a good group and do a good thing.
 

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Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on November 29, 2010, 10:40 AM:
 
I relate to that. I'm always getting calls from somebody. Selling vacation timeshares, stuff like that. I almost can't convince these people that I didn't order the stuff or request information, etc. They keep grasping to the belief that "I don't remember". I really feel sorry to disappoint these guys, but I gotta be a hard ass.

Now, who? What kind of juvenile gets their rocks off by giving out someone's name, etc. They say, well isn't this your phone number? Yeah, it's my number, but so what? I'm in the book, anybody can find my number if they can spell my name.

It would be amusing, but the intellect of these jerks is pathetic. Like when I was ten and used to call the drug store and ask if they have Prince Albert in a can. Teh hee How clever!

Good hunting, LB

edit: guess Andy is still mad, anybody heard from him? Gene sure scored, and Dave Allen is blaming it all on me. Of course.

[ November 29, 2010, 10:44 AM: Message edited by: Leonard ]
 

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Posted by Nikonut (Member # 188) on November 29, 2010, 02:20 PM:
 
Well don't feel too sorry for yourself Leonard.

I think more than a few guys got taken by this clown and I'm sure he's sitting back somewhere laughing about what he's done. I just hope he thinks he's so smart that he does it again and gets caught... there is always a trail and someone will find it.

Semp... I just got a letter from, "Amnesty International" wanting me to take pictures of the starving pigmys in Africa, they even sent me PRESS CREDENTIALS!!!(I'm not making that shit up either!)
I'm very proud to be a member and ride with the Patriot Guard, very fine group working to protect and honor our service members and their families!

As for Andy... I have a feeling he is just stepping back and cooling off a little... my guess is he's not wanting to blow a gasket here and say something he might regret later. I find that an admirable thing to do. I hope that's the case.

Seems several guys got heated on this one!
 

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Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on November 29, 2010, 03:55 PM:
 
I heard from him. He has been abducted by Aliens and must continually mate with their Queen while she is fertile; could be days, weeks or could be months? He said she looks like Nancy Pelosi, with a mustache.

Good hunting. LB
 

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Posted by 4949shooter (Member # 3530) on November 29, 2010, 05:08 PM:
 
C'mon back Andy.

Leonard didn't mean nuthin' by it. He is just getting curmudgeonly in his young age.

Besides...who is gonna watch my back??
 

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Posted by Rich (Member # 112) on November 29, 2010, 06:27 PM:
 
Andy is probably still pissed at me for calling him a Bounty Hunter.Hey Andy, ANDY, I WAS ONLY JOKING, come back Andy, we miss you.
 

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Posted by Bofire (Member # 221) on November 29, 2010, 08:31 PM:
 
When I grow up am I gonna understand some of this crap? I never even know it happens until I read it here. who are all those people?
Carl
 

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Posted by Dan Carey (Member # 987) on November 29, 2010, 09:20 PM:
 
"Topic: I think the boys at PM won the war"

What utter bullshit, written by a certifiable moron. Just what the hell did the boys at predator masters sucks win? The way I see it they got in one hell of a fight in the back room beat the shit out of each other, some quit, some got their ticket punched and some left with their tails between their legs. My main object was to fuck that pussgutted bastard out of the chairman of the board and the presidency of pms. That my friends was a happening. I laughed for weeks!

So who were the combatants? Who in the hell said the war was over, some low live pms suckass? The war is over, when I and only I say it is. Nondescript assholes like you have no part in what has happened or what will happen in the future, I don't give a shit who you are, you can't do shit that would count in this war! I have forced more changes at pms in the last two years than all the years the shithole has been in existence. You can run your mouth all you want it won't change anything. I call the shots in this fucking war. Those fucktards running pms are just toys to be played with. For your reading pleasure I have copied a post I wrote at another site.

" I was bitter when they banned me, I recovered fast then the mean came out in me. I post there daily, some of the dumbest shit you could ever read, have yet to get banned with those names. However, when I carpet bomb some asshole they ban immediately. Who cares, its all just for the fun factor. I have made a game of screwing with their heads on a regular basis. I could only guess how many hundreds of hours they have spent on the phone discussing ME, how cool is that? Screw those low life, no life MF'ers."

Tell me again who won the war fuckhead?
 

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Posted by jimanaz (Member # 3689) on November 29, 2010, 09:32 PM:
 
C'mon Dan, don't sugar coat it, tell us how you REALLY feel. Teeheehee.

I'm thinking there's more than a few man hours invested on your end too, but it is fun to see that smile light up when you talk about all the ruination and mayhem hanging from your lodgepole.

Everyone needs a purpose in life....
 

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Posted by Andy L (Member # 642) on November 29, 2010, 10:08 PM:
 
Im not gone yet. Just cooling off. I got a case of the redass at two people. One I know where he lives. One I dont know who he is. Otherwse, everything else is kewl. The one I dont know will come out im the waah and he will wish this hadnt happened. Mark my works.

And, if one wants to push the envelope futher, I will write a book.
 

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Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on November 29, 2010, 10:08 PM:
 
There's something wrong with being THAT offended, Dan. PMS controls your entire life, is that what you are telling us? So, one slightly balding senior citizen with an attitude took down the biggest and best Predator Hunting Forum on the 'net? That's really awesome! If modesty permits, what are you going to do for an encore?

Good hunting. LB
 

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Posted by Dan Carey (Member # 987) on November 30, 2010, 07:39 AM:
 
The truth is LJB, I don't think about pms much at all. I do however get pissed when they fuck with someone I like. I try to pop in there at least once a day and leave them a turd to suck on. Shit like is a "17 hmr good for yotes".

Everyone needs some entertainment, some watch TV, some beat their wives, I beat up pms. Even the fools at pms learn what to watch for, so the game changes when needed, the rules are the same. The deals made behind closed doors may not always be known by the people not involved in the "war".
 

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Posted by JoeF (Member # 228) on November 30, 2010, 07:42 AM:
 
Dan, PM is what it is. Most people recognized that years ago and either accepted it for that and play along or have moved on.

You need to let it go before you stroke out.

From the outside looking in, your post above does not speak well of your character.

Move on, this crap is getting old. PM would fade away from most peoples minds if you'd let it. At the very least, it wouldn't get brought up on sites like this because it would have no theatrical value.
 

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Posted by Dan Carey (Member # 987) on November 30, 2010, 08:14 AM:
 
If you don't like this topic don't read it!
 

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Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on November 30, 2010, 10:27 AM:
 
Well, some truth and wisdom in that advice, brief as it is. And, I mean Joe and Dan's.

We can't stop looking at a train wreck and PMS has much to apologize for as the 800 pound gorilla in the room. I wonder if there are as many former members that have a negative view of that board, as they have happy customers? Probably not as many that have a hate approaching the level of Dan's, but still significant animosity.

Here's an interesting thought. Do they know, and do they care? I feel like HM has a purpose, a positive benefit for those that choose to participate. I would shut it down real fast if I thought it was just an ugly cancerous tumor on the predator hunting world. I'm not sure if PMS is approaching that kind of reputation, nor am I the best judge. But, if those guys think they are doing God's work, that is beyond the pale. Maybe the sole purpose is to generate revenue, I guess that's understandable? Do they care about their negatives?

I care that people like this Board. It's simple, easy to understand, manageable as a one man enterprise, for the most part.

Are PM's customers happy as a clam? Depends on their level of awareness, I suppose? But, do the fab four think they are delivering the best possible product? I wonder? What do you think, Gene? They winning? You really think so?

Good hunting. LB

[ November 30, 2010, 10:28 AM: Message edited by: Leonard ]
 

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Posted by tlbradford (Member # 1232) on November 30, 2010, 10:56 AM:
 
Dan - Do you really want a bunch of guys on this site asking those dumb questions? PMS gives a place for new folks to ask the dumb questions, and for wannabe hunters to achieve an adoring fan base, simply for posting more than anyone else.
 

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Posted by Semp (Member # 3074) on November 30, 2010, 01:57 PM:
 
I think DC and GZ did what a bunch of us wanted to do and that was cause pain to those Nazi's at PMS.

But a lot of guys like me don't know how to work the black magic behind IP addresses, header spoofing and all that mumble jumble bullshit.

The Monster boys know how to do it and have the balls to go for it. Kudos to them.
 

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Posted by Briguy (Member # 3471) on November 30, 2010, 01:58 PM:
 
Yep, way too many teen wannabe's on there post-hoing to gain credibility. I can't read through that crap.

And everytime a guy posts a custom call on there, do 57 people really have to tell him "Great Turn"...???

Anyway, I haven't been through what a lot of you have on that site, but as someone from the outside looking in, the place is really turning stale.
 

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Posted by Lonny (Member # 19) on November 30, 2010, 03:18 PM:
 
Remember when a "custom call" was actually that? I'm always amazed at the number of guys peddling calls nowadays.

Now a chinese-made bandsaw, drill, and some high-gloss varthane will get you knocking out custom calls in no time. Almost forgot, a rusty 16-penny nail to scratch your name in the call.

edit-spelling

[ November 30, 2010, 04:17 PM: Message edited by: Lonny ]
 

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Posted by Nikonut (Member # 188) on November 30, 2010, 10:19 PM:
 
You are so right about that Lonny...

Used to be a custom call had to first sound great, have a handmade toneboard or tuned JC reed, was never Glossy, and when the guys said, "Nice Turn"... it was! Just not the same now!

Nikonut
 

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Posted by TOM64 (Member # 561) on December 01, 2010, 05:36 AM:
 
Commercialism at it's finest, get the new guys interested and se11 em what they need to succeed.

All the while destroying what we have left from the inside. All in the name of profit.

You haters need to take note, the newest and bestest way to shut a site down is by posting copyrighted material without permission.
http://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=59009

Be on guard...
 

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Posted by TheHuntedOne (Member # 623) on December 01, 2010, 06:49 AM:
 
"Used to be a custom call had to first sound great,"

Agree - but it is subjective too. When a guys says he got a call from call maker so and so and it is the "best call he ever heard" do you ever wonder "how many calls HAVE you heard? Didn't you just start coyote hunting about 3 months ago?"

How come no one ever ask that question?

"have a handmade toneboard"

Not entirely necessary now, there are some excellent commercial tone boards out there. There are some dogs too. The real problem is not the molded or commercial tone board, it is when 20 guys use the same tone boards in their calls. A hunter could end up having 20 different looking calls that all sound exactly alike. Hand made tone boards for the most part don't have that problem, and for that reason, are a plus, but not necessary for the hunter who just wants one good call or two and does his homework and ask questions of the call maker. Molded boards are not "bad". Every plastic commercial call has a "molded" tone board, and some are pretty darn effective. Crit R Call come to mind?

"or tuned JC reed"

This is pretty much a myth. Unless you are calling in a contest, all the reed needs to do is not lock up and be able to sound like something in distress. Unless you want us to believe that all rabbits sound exactly alike, or that only western coyotes respond to jackrabbit sounds and eastern ones to cottontail sounds, all a hunter needs is one low, one medium and one high pitched sounding call that doesn't lock up and can be made to sound like something hurt. That's really all the tuning that needs to be done for "hunting".

We've all called coyotes with commercial closed reed calls from Primos, Lohman, Knight and Hale, and others, and I can assure you that none of them were "tuned", but they all called critters.

"was never Glossy"

If it is a true custom call, that is the buyers choice.

Pilgrims calls were highly sought after works of art, and his finishes were like glass....

If I recall, Rhino calls had a pretty nice finish as well.

So did the few of yours you posted Tom.

Finish is the customers choice, and the old saw that "pretty doesn't call coyotes" is just an excuse for making ugly calls.

"and when the guys said, "Nice Turn"... it was! Just not the same now!"

I agree. It's better. What you see for the most part today, are the same 20 or so guys on the same two or three boards, selling calls. Don't judge what you see on these boards as what is going on in the call making hobby. There are dozens of very talented call makers out there making beautiful custom predator calls. More so than ever before. Some are carved, some painted, some laminated, some checkered. A good many of them never post a call on a coyote hunting board. But their work is flawless and the calls works of art. You know one Tom, his name is Brian Byers. Have you seen his checkered open reeds? I could name two dozen predator call makers whose work would make you go "WOW" that never post on a predator board.

Yup, there are a lot of guys "peddling" calls today. Some will grow and become greats, some will give it up, and some will never do anything other than plug and stuff in a fancy barrel and still come out with serviceable working calls. But the hobby as a whole is getting much better, and the call makers much more talented.

Al Woodard
THO Game Calls
The On Line Resource for Custom Call Makers
www.thogamecalls.com
www.thogamecallsforums.com

[ December 01, 2010, 07:44 AM: Message edited by: TheHuntedOne ]
 

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Posted by Dan Carey (Member # 987) on December 01, 2010, 08:23 AM:
 
"MattM as in Java! Heard he has a brain tumor."

Who????
 

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Posted by Lone Howl (Member # 29) on December 01, 2010, 12:32 PM:
 
lol... The one eternal question among predator callmakers..."What kind of finish did Pilgrim use".
It is flawless thats for sure.
Mark
 

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Posted by Rich (Member # 112) on December 01, 2010, 12:45 PM:
 
The problem with call makers on P.M. and other predator boards is the canned praise. If you have never heard the call, there is no way you can know how "good" it is. With the enclosed reed models you are pretty safe because of the enclosed J.C. reed. Open reed models are a whole different ball game. Buy your calls from a well known builder.
 

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Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on December 01, 2010, 12:54 PM:
 
Are you referring to the same pilgrim that has attended the campout? If so, I didn't know that he made calls?

As far as JC reeds. They make enough of a variety that the sounds are unique enough, in my opinion. Good enough to work, anyway.

Good hunting. LB
 

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Posted by Nikonut (Member # 188) on December 01, 2010, 01:07 PM:
 
Matt McCauley... Java4!

Sheesh Dan, do I have to tell you everything!
 

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Posted by Nikonut (Member # 188) on December 01, 2010, 02:02 PM:
 
Great post Al!

Especially coming from one of the finest callmakers I've known... a mentor to many past and current callmakers including myself!!!

We both know this topic could be expanded and go on almost endlessly. You covered it pretty quickly and yet in some detail. I was trying to make a very broad statement.

You are absolutely right, though! It's a small world if you don't venture past these few predator hunting sites. There are beautiful calls being made that never get seen on the internet! I happen to own a few myself! I also have quite a few THO's that haven't been seen online in a very long time! ... and I sure don't mind being corrected when its by someone with your experience!



On the point of toneboards and tuned reeds, also right on spot. CNC'd and even cast boards can be excellent! I may have to order some of your toneboards! I hate cutting them for hunting calls and I know yours are right on.
I've always believed the JC reeds used in many commercial calls are actually "bladed"(tuned) right from JC! It used to say so on his website.

I just talked to BrianB the other day, very talented guy! I've been meaning to give you a call, too.

Oh ya... those calls work!



I'm very glad to see you posting here Al! Take Care!

Nikonut
 

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Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on December 01, 2010, 02:08 PM:
 
Niko....is that Treebark! You might as well wear red plaid, its just as effective. Oh well, go ahead, I don't care.

Hand calls. I prefer closed reed, personally. Depends, but they work fine, for me.

Good hunting. LB

edit: PS is that true about the brain tumor? Nothing to joke about.

[ December 01, 2010, 02:10 PM: Message edited by: Leonard ]
 

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Posted by 4949shooter (Member # 3530) on December 01, 2010, 02:43 PM:
 

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edit: PS is that true about the brain tumor? Nothing to joke about

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I agree it is nothing to joke about.

Prayers sent...
 

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Posted by Rich (Member # 112) on December 01, 2010, 03:12 PM:
 
Leonard,
Yes, enclosed reed calls work just fine unless it is bitter cold outside. They freeze up solid in the cold.
 

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Posted by TheHuntedOne (Member # 623) on December 01, 2010, 03:15 PM:
 
Geez Tom - trying to embarrass a man? Those calls must be 6 - 7 years old. Maybe a bit more.

These are some newer ones, from maybe two years ago.







I just don't make that many calls anymore, and those that I do end up being given to guys around here or sold in local shops. There are a lot of call makers who do the same thing. A lot of fine duck and turkey call guys make some great looking predator calls, and, based on their reputations as master turkey or duck call makers, they probably sound very nice as well.

Anyway, thanks for posting those oldies. It almost hurts to look at them now, although I do have a couple from back in "the day" that I still use.

Mr. Leonard, I don't know if it is the same Pilgrim that was at your camp out or not, but he make some of the best looking calls ( I never heard one so I wont say they sounded good, but I would bet my hat that they did ) ever shown on the boards.

I hope if Java is sick he gets well soon.

Al Woodard
THO Game Calls
The On Line Resource for Custom Call Makers
www.thogamecalls.com
www.thogamecallsforums.com
 

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Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on December 01, 2010, 03:17 PM:
 
Yeah, I know, Rich. Just never gives me problems. I keep them in a lint free pocket and can switch.

I have no problem with open reed either, I use them often. I just like the sound of the closed reeds better, for the most part.

Good hunting. LB
 

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Posted by Nikonut (Member # 188) on December 01, 2010, 04:09 PM:
 
Guys...

Let me start by saying, I sure won't wish cancer on any one. That is something that was told to me after Matt moved from the east coast to the west coast, supposedly to be near family.

I don't talk to Matt and never really did much other than arguing in the backroom at PM. I posted that info here and on another site because people were wondering where he went... I really don't know details or if it is even true... that is why I said, "I heard..." and "Rumor has it.." in those posts. I still include those guys in my prayers...

Nikonut
 

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Posted by CrossJ (Member # 884) on December 01, 2010, 04:13 PM:
 
lb, yes the very same Pilgrim who attended the campout. He made AR and myself each a call several years ago. One of the most unique sounds I have ever heard. I use it alot, and it is one of my favorites, and I don't like closed reeds.

[ December 01, 2010, 04:14 PM: Message edited by: CrossJ ]
 

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Posted by Nikonut (Member # 188) on December 01, 2010, 05:06 PM:
 

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Niko....is that Treebark! You might as well wear red plaid, its just as effective.

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Ya Leonard, that's what you keep saying but those two coyotes came in to about 15ft and stood looking right at me for about a minute! Every time they would turn away I'd hit them with a real soft tone from one of those THO calls... maybe they were just laughing at me! They died laughing if that's true! That's the same pic I posted a long time ago that got you laughing and why you gave me my sigline!

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Those calls must be 6 - 7 years old. Maybe a bit more.

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Hey Al, I think a bit more! I'm not sure but that top left one might be one of your first ones sold on PM! I have several more THO enclosed reeds and a few open reeds as well!
Katie brought me her "Candy Cane" call a while back for safe keeping, Emily can't find hers, but hopefully it will show up! Those are the ones made from "Corian". You sent both of my girls one as Christmas presents many years ago. They were in grade school then... Katie graduates from HS this year!

I have a "Pilgrim" call tucked away with it's polishing cloth and fancy cloth storage bag. I can't remember his name right now either! It's got the shipping address on the box if I can find it... One of his signatures was to send you the call wrapped in the soft cloth originally used to polished the call!

Nikonut

Edit: "Candy Cane" doesn't sound right... was it "Cotton Candy"? Very pretty red, white,and blue open reed.

[ December 01, 2010, 05:14 PM: Message edited by: Nikonut ]
 

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Posted by Rich (Member # 112) on December 01, 2010, 05:33 PM:
 
"Ya Leonard, that's what you keep saying but those two coyotes came in to about 15ft and stood looking right at me for about a minute!"
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Probably thought you were a fellow coyote, sounds logical anyway.
 

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Posted by Nikonut (Member # 188) on December 01, 2010, 06:22 PM:
 
Could be Rich...

I've been known to sleep with a few dogs in my time!
 

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Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on December 01, 2010, 06:29 PM:
 
Yeah, niko. I thought I saw that photo before?
 

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Posted by Krustyklimber (Member # 72) on December 01, 2010, 08:17 PM:
 
Pilgrim - Ernest G. Wilson

Krusty
 

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Posted by TheHuntedOne (Member # 623) on December 02, 2010, 04:09 AM:
 
You might have them confused Krusty. Ernie Wilson runs EWCalls http://www.ewcalls.com/

Al Woodard
THO Game Calls
The On Line Resource for Custom Call Makers
www.thogamecalls.com
www.thogamecallsforums.com
 

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Posted by JoeF (Member # 228) on December 02, 2010, 07:17 AM:
 
Nikon, I'll trade you. Your set of coveralls looks insulated. Mine ain't.

That is too bad about Java, if that is indeed the current state of things.
I always enjoyed his input on the political forum over at PM. Good solid conservative.
 

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Posted by Nikonut (Member # 188) on December 02, 2010, 09:06 AM:
 
You are right Joe,

Mine are insulated. I rescued those many years ago at a rummage sale... can't remember if I even paid anything for them or if they gave them to me. Seems the guy was a duck hunter and wanted the latest and greatest...

They would be excellent for river bottom camo. Heck, they work great in corn fields, too!
 

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Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on December 02, 2010, 12:52 PM:
 
First, let me say that I graciously accept any and all unsolicited gifts. But, here is my comment on the above photos. They all look like duck calls, to me? I have a bit of trouble with the way the mouthpiece is designed, like you are blowing on a trombone

? I absolutely love the Circe design. Don't know what it is called, but that was my very first hand call, it's all chewed to hell from biting down on it and I have not actually used it in a long time, but the plastic ones, (Circe's) suit me fine, just as well. Like a Havatampa cigar, I can chew on it for a long time after it burns out, still a lot of flavor in it.

Good hunting. LB

PS If I knew who invented Treebark, I'd have him taken out and shot.
 

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Posted by Dan Carey (Member # 987) on December 02, 2010, 05:53 PM:
 
"Sheesh Dan, do I have to tell you everything!"

I know, I just wanted everyone to know.
 

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Posted by Kokopelli (Member # 633) on December 02, 2010, 07:47 PM:
 
El Bee;
The Circe calls use the 'pipestem' type of mouthpiece. The plastic Sceery calls also use that design. I think that it was invented by the guy who first made TreeBark Camo.
 

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Posted by Alaskan Yoter (Member # 169) on December 02, 2010, 08:02 PM:
 
Outstanding post Al.
 

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Posted by TA17Rem (Member # 794) on December 02, 2010, 09:21 PM:
 
For anyone interested here is a pic of some Pilgrim calls. http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f208/TA17Rem/IMG_2549.jpg[/IMG]]
 

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Posted by Alaskan Yoter (Member # 169) on December 02, 2010, 09:42 PM:
 
Would ya like to part with them Tim?
 

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Posted by TheHuntedOne (Member # 623) on December 03, 2010, 06:33 AM:
 

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They all look like duck calls, to me? I have a bit of trouble with the way the mouthpiece is designed, like you are blowing on a trombone

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First, let me say that I graciously accept any and all unsolicited gifts.

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PS If I knew who invented Treebark, I'd have him taken out and shot.

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