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Andy L
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posted September 27, 2010 09:09 PM
Anyone that read my other posts know what my perdicament is. Ive been trying to make it on a few hydrocodone and ice and heat. A good friend of mine suggested yesterday, maybe I should take the docs offer for something stronger til this absorbs and goes away.
What do you guys think? I sincerely hate to. I went through the Oxycontin thing a few years back. They are wonderful pain killers, but the weaning at the end is pure hell. Even slowly with some valium for the heebie jeebies, its awful. But, I would be able to do some hunting and some of the things in life that makes it worth living. I didnt get to hunt at all, or trap, last winter due to my shoulders. I was really looking forward to this year.
Maybe it would be worth the hell at the end to get to enjoy the winter? I welcome any input on this as it is a huge decision for me.
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Leonard
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posted September 27, 2010 10:30 PM
I have had some pretty good pain, my left knee,my lower back, and some shooting pain down my right leg, the last two attributed to spinal stenosis.
I was taking Hydrocadone since last year, but for about four months recently, I take morphine sulphate. A 30mg dose twice a day, but I usually just take one. Now, I don't have any symptoms, at all. I don't know if it's miraculous intervention, or the drug, but I'm doing pretty darn good and don't have any "drugged" feeling, like with Percocet or Hydrocadone. Aside from the fact that this stuff could possibly require several days to ramp up, or I might be tempted to find out if I can get along without it?
You might mention this stuff and see what kind of response you get. The prescription is involved, some sort of triplicate they always mention, but it sure seems to work, for me, so the hassle is worth it.
Good hunting. LB
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Possumal
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posted September 28, 2010 03:53 AM
Andy, I agree with Leonard on this deal. Give it a shot with your doctors and see what they say. Living with that kind of pain is not much of an option.
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Bopeye
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posted September 28, 2010 06:33 PM
I hate to tell another guy how to manage his pain, but as long as you follow doc's orders and don't start snorting or shooting the shit, I would be very tempted to go for it. Methadone helps come off the stuff as well, but it's pretty potent itself.
Leonard, Thoracic Spinal Stenosis is what caused me to have my T-10 partially removed. Be careful with that crap. I was told in July '07 that I had it and needed surgery, but I said screw it. Almost a year later there was some stuff going wrong real bad. I started falling for no reason, pissed myself and didn't know it, lost feeling in my left foot and right thigh and finally got where I couldn't.....let us say...perform anymore as I had no feeling. I went under the knife in a hurry then. I now have permanent nerve damage in my left foot, right leg and butt cheek. Hurts like hell all the time, but at least I can feel everything again......well at least all the parts that matter to me. ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif)
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posted September 28, 2010 07:29 PM
Andy, my friend...do what you have to do. There are two fundamental questions: can you stand the pain without them, and should you have to stand the pain without them. Maybe there's some other painkiller that inhabits a middle ground? Easier to get off of, or less side effects? But if there isn't...we're only allotted so many days on this earth, and we never know when we're gonna run out. A man should enjoy and make the most of each and every day that he has, and that includes...that especially includes...going predator calling.
Do what you have to do, compadre.
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Dave Allen
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posted September 28, 2010 07:45 PM
Andy, I didn't want to respond as I have no , experiance in what you are going thru.
Yet here I go again, I'm gonna' say what I think.
I understand, your concerns and not wanting to get hooked on pain killers.
I also see no reason to live the rest of your life in pain.
Just my very, and I mean very, humble opinion.
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Leonard
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posted September 28, 2010 08:19 PM
Hmm? I already have the numbness in my toes! WHAT'S NEXT?
Good hunting. LB
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Kokopelli
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posted September 28, 2010 08:27 PM
Ok, here's the drill;
Google whatever this thing that you have is & get all knowed up on it. Make note of any pain meds mentioned and Google them too. Learn about as many options as possible for treatment and pain management. Take notes. Lots of notes.
Sit down with the family and talk about the pros & cons of the meds. Quality of life on meds versus withdrawal hell. Your family is involved at this point, like it or not.
Write down your questions for the Dr. so that you don't forget anything. Have your questions explained completely........in plain english. Take a freind or family member along to the Dr. appointment.
Too many Drs. begin to think that they're omnipotent; they're not. The more that you involve yourself in your own treatment, the better the outcome is likely to be.
Good luck & may the God(s) that you worship stand by your side.
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posted September 29, 2010 10:35 AM
Good advice from Koko, as usual. I also subscribe to the 'do research' method of investigation into whatever they tell you you have. And no, docs aren't omnipotent. They can suggest, they can recommend, they can even urge, but the bottom line is it's my body and I, and only I , have the last word regarding what, if anything, is done. (At least as long as I'm conscious, anyway. ![[Roll Eyes]](rolleyes.gif) )
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Leonard
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posted September 29, 2010 11:05 AM
.......I just hope I don't lose my MOJO! Might come in handy, one of these days?
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Bopeye
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posted September 29, 2010 02:05 PM
It will be a pretty quick progression Leonard, if you have acute spinal stenosis. Most people will get stenosis if they live on up into their 80's and 90's, but that is a natural progression, very much like arthritis.
If you have tingling in the toes, it might start moving across one or both feet. Then it will bother a leg and eventually you will start losing feeling everything below the affected part of the spine.
When you are in the Lumbar region our spinal cord starts to branch off into several large nerves, but if you are in the Thoracic region or higher, it is still one solid cord. Hard to predict what's going to be affected either way, but the longer it stays bound up, the more nerve damage and possible partial paralysis you will have.
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