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Topic: Coffee Drinker Opinions NEEDED!!!!
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rainshadow1
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posted April 04, 2010 11:25 AM
I'm not a coffee drinker. Nothing religious or dietary, I just haven't been able to acquire a taste for it. So I don't know enough about it... I need your help!
We're starting up a big box hardware store, outside food concession stand. We're going to do quality hot dogs, specialty style hotdogs, gourmet sausages, and gyros. A hot dog stand, but with a gourmet twist. Brand name and Premium soft drinks, Brand name and Premium chips, quality local and national brand fresh bakery desserts, etc.
For our coffee, I have a simple, but fun question for you coffee drinkers:
Would you prefer a large national brand, canned, pre-ground, fresh brewed, plain old standard cup of coffee...
12oz for $.75?
Or,
Would you prefer a specialty, premium roast, fresh ground, fresh brewed, "gourmet" cup of plain coffee...
12oz for $2.25?
What do you think? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
Please give me your opinions, as well as any thoughts you have along this line too. All input is hugely appreciated!
THANK YOU!!!
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DAA
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posted April 04, 2010 11:34 AM
I drink a lot of coffee.
But I'd MUCH rather have a beer, with my hot dog...
In fact, I can't remember the last time I ate a hot dog without a beer.
Sell the expensive coffee. Nobody expects to pay less that a couple bucks for anything these days. Might as well sell the higher ticket version. It better be good coffee though, or you won't get any repeats. Most coffee drinkers will have a strong opinion of whether your coffee is any good or not. If they like it, they'll pay two something for it and not think twice. If they don't like it, they won't buy it, period.
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Leonard
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posted April 04, 2010 11:47 AM
Refreshing attitude. Most entrepreneurs already have a vision and don't need opinions that conflict.
Here, in this group, my guess is that we have a lot of strong coffee drinkers and not a whole lot of leasurely gourmet latte drinkers, iced, foamed double shot or otherwise. In truth, I never have gone out of my way to "experience" a Starbucks except at airport concessions, where there is very little choice.
I must have two cups, in the morning, or I really don't feel right. An occasional gourmet cup now and then can't hurt anybody, but some are going to balk at triple the price. That's where I would place our HM demographic, especially those of us in FLYOVER COUNTRY, where they have just discovered the Hula Hoop. Read, conservative and untrendy.
Would it be too difficult to offer two choices and see where that leads?
Good luck, LB
PS got some stimulus money, eh?
edit: dang, Dave! You break every single Utah stereotype I ever heard of!
[ April 04, 2010, 11:49 AM: Message edited by: Leonard ]
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Dave Allen
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posted April 04, 2010 12:20 PM
Dave, holy smoke you live in Utah and drink coffee and beer ? Sweet ![[Smile]](smile.gif)
I'm just teasin' ya ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif)
As to the original question if it makes business sense for you I'd offer both, although If asked I prefer just plain ole' cheap Folgers or Maxwell house or something along those lines.
Gotta' go the wife says we have to get a move on to get over to her mothers for easter dinner. Usually her mom gets me and her dad a six pack though ![[Cool]](cool.gif)
[ April 04, 2010, 12:22 PM: Message edited by: Dave Allen ]
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posted April 04, 2010 12:42 PM
How's this for an input... I'd go without coffee rather than stopping at a Starbuck for any foo foo ch*t! Give me the good ole maxwell house or folgers anyday. It's what coffee is all about... ![[Wink]](wink.gif)
Good Luck on your adventure
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Kokopelli
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posted April 04, 2010 12:43 PM
Since gourmet coffee stands are on every street corner up your way, I would go to the Big Box Store and look in the parking lot for your answer; BMW's & Volvo's........go with the good stuff / Pick-up trucks & Jeeps.........go with a Cup o' Joe.
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TundraWookie
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posted April 04, 2010 12:57 PM
I'd rather pay for the premium stuff and get my octane in one cup instead of 19 cups of standard grade. You could always have the premium and a couple pots of the cheap stuff going on a Bunn commercial brewer non-stop for the trucker style drinkers. Interesting question though.
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TA17Rem
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posted April 04, 2010 01:20 PM
I don't drink much coffee but when i do it better be Egg coffee or nothing..
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RagnCajn
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posted April 04, 2010 01:22 PM
Coffee, who drinks coffee?
I had a cup of coffee once. Make it fresh, doesn't matter the grade or brand.
I went into a Starbuck's one time in my life. I ordered a cup of coffee and just coffee. It came out bitter and stale. I have never been back.
A plain coffee drinker will pay a buck fifty for a good fresh cup at a truck stopand then drop a 2 dollar tip on the cute waitress. At a goumet hotdog stand I would expect 2 bucks for the plain stuff.
Folgers, community, maxwell house are all good.
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Aznative
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posted April 04, 2010 01:29 PM
I would do what Koko says. Look at your market and go with what they want. Those are the folks that will make you or break you. For what it is worth, I'm a morning coffee drinker. Once I've had my three cups I'm done with coffee for the rest of the day, kinda like Leonard. Since hotdogs are a lunch time food, coffee is never consumed with hotdogs. With hotdogs I would consume either water, soda pop or a beer if available.
BTW: Good luck with your business adventure. It is tough out there but starting a business in the middle of an economic downturn does have its benefits. You learn to keep you costs down and business will probably only go up from here on out. You are also only going after the extra couple of bucks in a customer's wallet. People don't worry too much about a little change so you plan could work out very well.
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posted April 04, 2010 02:38 PM
I don't drink coffee at all. But if you sale the most expensive stuff people will buy it. I bet some would buy the cheap stuff also.
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rainshadow1
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posted April 04, 2010 03:39 PM
Really appreciate the replies guys. Thanks.
I'm in a retirement town in the middle of Gourmet Coffee country, but I'm setting up at the Hardware Box... thus the conundrum!
Appreciate the thoughts, good stuff!
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Andy L
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posted April 04, 2010 04:59 PM
For as long as I can remember, I buy Folgers. I make it in my Bunn. I have two cups every morning. If I dont get it, Im pissed and hard to deal with. I seldom ever buy or drink coffee after the morning.
However, when I do, it is hardly ever plain coffee. I like to either have a good flavored coffee or some type of expresso or latte or whatever. Usually well over the prices you list. I figger I might as well have something I dont drink at home. So, I would go gourmet.
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Cdog911
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posted April 04, 2010 05:17 PM
I guess I'll be the cheapskate here. In my experience, coffee and beer are a lot alike. the fancy, schmancy stuff is far too bitter for me, or strong tasting for my tastes. Folger's decaf (dr's orders) and keystone light. I'm pretty simple. I've had Starbucks and the stuff wasn't bitter and stale as Randy said. It just tastes like crap. (I certainly hope they aren't an advertiser at T&PC or I'm in hot water again.)
Pretty much common knowledge now that they put Starbuck's best against the coffees that both Dunkin donuts and McD's ***** and Starbucks didn't even make a showing.
As far as frequency of drinking, I brew 4 cups of decaf while I get ready for work, tote it in a big insulated cup and refill it at around eleven to last me the entire day. My addiction is purely situational like smoking is to some people. When I'm working or driving, I like to take a drag on a cup of Joe at certain intervals. When I'm working in the shop or in the yard, I like to have a cigar within reach. When the temps cool off or when I'm hunting, there's always a cup of coffee near me. It has become a ritual and something of a good luck thing for me to spill a bit of coffee on my partner or his shooting iron at some point in the morning. It got to be such a regular way to turn our luck around that my old partner Matt just went to dribbling a bit of coffee down the side of his stock first thing when he got into the truck because he knew if he didn't do it on purpose, I'd do it by accident before the morning was gone.
I'd have both available to cover all the bases.
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RagnCajn
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posted April 04, 2010 07:55 PM
I figured someone would make a comment about me saying I had a cup of coffee "once"
I drink it all day, summer and winter. I am never far from my thermos. I drink 4 cups before I even get dressed in the mornings. I then fill my thermos (16 ozs). It is empty by lunch. I refill it at where ever I am eating or the nearest gas station. I usually drink coffee with my lunch and just get a cup to go so I can fill my thermos when I get to the truck. That will usually last me till I get home and brew a fresh pot.
Rainshadow and I were up on a mountain hunting a lion a couple years ago. My thermos ran dry. I pull the truck over, got out my old aluminum drip coffee pot, a small camping sized propae burner and made some fresh and refilled my thermos.
Yeah, I like my coffee.
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rainshadow1
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posted April 04, 2010 08:16 PM
I thought I remembered that about you, Randy. But I didn't want to say anything.... in case, you know, I was mistaking that addiction for something nasty... like Red Man or something!
Happy Easter, my Friend!
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posted April 04, 2010 08:42 PM
I tend to have the same sentiments as Dave; Ive never envisioned hotdogs and coffe as complimenting each other? I love a good hotdog, and enjoy really good coffee, but I'll have a cold beer with my hotdog and a croissant with my coffee.
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posted April 04, 2010 08:53 PM
Sheeeesh Randy!!! ![[Eek!]](eek.gif)
You must go pee like 47 times a day or so!?!?
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Leonard
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posted April 05, 2010 12:25 AM
Yeah, well I feel the same way about these dweebs that drink a diet coke for breakfast. I don't want a bowl of chili either. For breakfast, I want breakfast food.
Yes, my routine is two cups of coffee, and I'm done. That's before I even THINK of eating anything. If I'm driving on a trip, a cup of coffee goes real well.
Well, in the interest of full disclosure, when I was employed, I took a travel cup for on the way to work.
At a fine restaurant, I have been known to order an expresso or cappuccino. Caffein has never kept me awake at bedtime.
I was talking to my daughter this afternoon, (she was just crossing the Richmond Bridge heading west, at the time) She pulled into a Peets, which we don't have down here, but I understand they invented the Starbucks type of store. Wait! I have been in a Peets, once. Same old same old.
Good hunting. LB
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posted April 05, 2010 06:34 AM
I need my coffee every morning, but I'm a cheapskate. I've never bought the expensive stuff and never will. Place me firmly in the conservative and untrendy camp. When I do buy a cup it's usually from a convenience store and under a $1.25. I do like the places that have an assortment of real creamers and not the powdered shit. Gotta get your dollars worth.
Considering your locale though, you might be better off with the trendy gourmet stuff where people that are used to it and expect to pay more.
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posted April 05, 2010 06:42 AM
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edit: dang, Dave! You break every single Utah stereotype I ever heard of!
Well thanks Leonard. That's one of the nicest things anyone has ever said about me .
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TundraWookie
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posted April 05, 2010 07:35 AM
Premium Coffee doesn't equal Starbuck's in my mind. Their straight coffee is nasty and acidic. There are better premium coffee's that you can serve without having to charge $3 a cup I'd wager. If you have a local favorite or roaster find out what they have and see what you can turn a profit on. Get a small sign from the roaster you can stick up at your Hotdog stand and it might surprise you how many people are willing to pay a bit more for good coffee that isn't necessarily Starbucks stomach rot. If you have Kaladi brothers coffee, that'd be a good start, that there is tasty.
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posted April 05, 2010 07:57 AM
Get some of that coffee that first goes thru a African cat and comes out his ass. That fella on the Bucket List swears by it. LMAO
As much travelling as I do for work, you would think I would be a coffee junkie. I really dont like drinking coffee when driving. I have great luck with the 5 Hour Power drinks. That little shot of whatever it is and a bottle of water and I can cover some ground. That has got me thru many 48 hr stretcehs of work and driving.
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posted April 05, 2010 07:57 AM
Get some of that coffee that first goes thru a African cat and comes out his ass. That fella on the Bucket List swears by it. LMAO
As much travelling as I do for work, you would think I would be a coffee junkie. I really dont like drinking coffee when driving. I have great luck with the 5 Hour Power drinks. That little shot of whatever it is and a bottle of water and I can cover some ground. That has got me thru many 48 hr stretcehs of work and driving.
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TundraWookie
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posted April 05, 2010 08:10 AM
Here you go AndyL, some Cat Crap Coffee background. Most expensive stuff around:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kopi_Luwak
In 2006 a cup of the crap was $33...OUCH!!!
I can see it now. Buy a cup of Cat Crap coffee and get a free Rainshadow cat calling CD to boot. People will be out there trying to kill cats and get beans at the same time.
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