|
Author
|
Topic: lame topic of the month
|
Leonard
HMFIC
Member # 2
|
posted October 18, 2009 11:54 AM
Not here, we got many, but this one really stands out. I found it on another site.
quote:
Making it in the predator hunting industry
Give me a friggin' break! Wannabe's now have a seminar on how to be rich and famous, like Byron South and Glenn Guess! Or, get your own message board. (hasn't worked for me, yet)
Maybe they will 'splain some handy shortcuts, like pumping your resume with body count and decades of experience? That might work? Sage advice, like coyotes aren't afraid of the human voice?
Good hunting. LB
edit: just kidding around; no offense intended.
[ October 18, 2009, 11:56 AM: Message edited by: Leonard ]
--------------------
EL BEE Knows It All and Done It All.
Don't piss me off!
Posts: 32361 | From: Upland, CA | Registered: Jan 2003
| IP: Logged
|
|
JohnLK
Pro-Staff Great/Michigan Sector
Member # 1978
|
posted October 18, 2009 02:16 PM
The first thing you have to do is graduate from a Predator University. Then buy an AR and a Fox Pro. It all becomes easy after that.
Posts: 54 | From: Michigan | Registered: Oct 2007
| IP: Logged
|
|
Kokopelli
SENIOR DISCOUNT & Dispenser of Sage Advice
Member # 633
|
posted October 18, 2009 03:39 PM
Ya know, Leonard; John there might be on to something. Instead of having a 'Camp-Out' which brings up visions of unshaven old men playing cards & telling lies, we could have a Predator University Field Trip w/Seminars. That's the kind of thing that we could get Government Grant money for!!!!
--------------------
And lo, the Light of the Trump shown upon the Darkness and the Darkness could not comprehend it.
Posts: 8231 | From: Under a wandering star | Registered: Apr 2005
| IP: Logged
|
|
TRnCO
FUTURE HALL OF FAMER
Member # 690
|
posted October 18, 2009 05:48 PM
So let me get this straight LB, are you saying that someone is putting on Seminars and this is the topic?
Just how many wannabe's do they think there are. Enough to sell out Seminars, or fill the seats even if free??
--------------------
Is it hunting season yet? I hate summer!
Posts: 996 | From: Elizabeth, CO | Registered: Aug 2005
| IP: Logged
|
|
Daryl
MODERATOR FORUM LURKER
Member # 3451
|
posted October 18, 2009 06:19 PM
Y'know Leonard, I almost posted to that thread, and I'm pretty sure I'd have been deleted if I did.
I've no desire "to make it in the predator hunting business".
Every time I ever mixed something I enjoy with business, money became the object and I soon lost the enjoyment of just getting out and doing it.
For an example, ask a woman of the oldest profession if she still enjoys it. Same thing.
I want nothing to do with turning coyote hunting into a business. I still remember the old days of just taking a rifle and a couple of mouth calls, going out and killing coyotes.
and I still like doing it that way.
Daryl
Posts: 39 | From: Hereford, Arizona | Registered: Jun 2009
| IP: Logged
|
|
Dan Carey
unknown comic
|
posted October 18, 2009 07:01 PM
"and I'm pretty sure I'd have been deleted if I did."
pussgut don't run that place. You probably could say whatever you wanted without reprisal.
IP: Logged
|
|
Leonard
HMFIC
Member # 2
|
posted October 18, 2009 09:29 PM
Yeah, well who does, Dan? Who's Admin1, Admin2, Admin3, Admin4, etc.? TOS are sorta reasonable, I'll say that. But there are unspoken threats about being polite, which is probably the only reason why Dr Jagger(sp) is there? He certainly couldn't handle any unfriendly questions about how he runs his "research project".
Good hunting. LB
(I'm just kidding, no petty jealousy or anything)
--------------------
EL BEE Knows It All and Done It All.
Don't piss me off!
Posts: 32361 | From: Upland, CA | Registered: Jan 2003
| IP: Logged
|
|
Q-Wagoner
FREE TRIAL MEMBERSHIP
Member # 33
|
posted October 18, 2009 10:53 PM
LOL Ya know Daryl I darn near posted on that thread my self. In fact I had a long response all typed up. But my style of "spirited debate" is now considered a banning offense so I decided to sit that one out. LOL
There really isn't any set standards to be qualified to "make it" in the predator hunting industry is there? If there is the bar isn't set too high. LOL
Really ones true hunting prows are not that important. If making it in the "Industry" was based off of ones hunting accomplishments there would be about a 90 percent turnover rate the first night.LOL
I have been watching and participating in online discussions for nearly 10 years now. A lot of us here have as well. It really has to do with a hunters personality. We have all seen different guys pop up randomly and from nearly there first post you can see what they are all about.
I think that there is a part of every coyote hunter that wants some level of notoriety. Some a LOT more than others. It is bothersome to see guys that just flat don't have the experience "make it." I know it sounds bad but that is just the way I feel. It just seams fundamental wrong.
Let me back up. I should say that the ones that bother me are the ones that have very little experience, no respect and are arrogant know it all pricks. LOL
Or the ones that "make it" or are attempting to make it by an elaborate game of smoke and mirrors. It blows my mind at what some people will do or say to make themselves look good or more accomplished than they are. And it is even more surprising how many people buy into it.
It only ads to the frustration when you see hordes of newbies pandering to them and hanging on every word. LOL
People associate those that are in the "industry" with the cream of the crop. A lot of these flash in the pans we see today know it. They know that there only shot at recognition and notoriety is by breaking into the industry. Some do and should be charged accordingly "breaking and entering." LOL
The biggest fad now seams to be in the video market. Honestly, when was the last time you watched a video and learned anything significant? It is all the same game any more. Some guy just travels around seeking out good hunters with good areas and is "guided" into there honey holes to call and film. It is a good formula for success. It saves you the trouble of scouting and actually hunting! LOL
Oh well, let them have it.
Good hunting.
Q,
Posts: 617 | From: Nebraska | Registered: Jan 2003
| IP: Logged
|
|
Leonard
HMFIC
Member # 2
|
posted October 18, 2009 11:41 PM
Q, your jealousy is so obvious, it's embarassing! lol
--------------------
EL BEE Knows It All and Done It All.
Don't piss me off!
Posts: 32361 | From: Upland, CA | Registered: Jan 2003
| IP: Logged
|
|
Q-Wagoner
FREE TRIAL MEMBERSHIP
Member # 33
|
posted October 19, 2009 12:18 AM
Maybe I am a little bitter towards the industry Leonard. After the Predator Hunters Junior College went tits up Randy and I just haven't been the same. I still don't know how it happened! I mean you should have seen the frames we had made for the diplomas!!
When S and Q enterprises folded it was the last straw. Hell we couldn't even get foxpro to send us a call! And at that time they were passing out FX 5s like halloween candy to any one with a camera!
Good hunting.
Q,
Posts: 617 | From: Nebraska | Registered: Jan 2003
| IP: Logged
|
|
CrossJ
SECOND PLACE: PAUL RYAN Look-a-like contest
Member # 884
|
posted October 19, 2009 05:32 AM
Dam Q! Sorry to hear it. Don't give up though. You always have the skinning pole distributorship to fall back on. Maybe you and Shaw could go and buy a lathe?
Maintain
--------------------
A friend will help you move. A good friend will help you move a body.
Posts: 1025 | From: on a water tower | Registered: Jul 2006
| IP: Logged
|
|
Daryl
MODERATOR FORUM LURKER
Member # 3451
|
posted October 19, 2009 05:34 AM
quote:
I think that there is a part of every coyote hunter that wants some level of notoriety.
Maybe when I was a younger fella; not lately. Notariety brings envy, and envy brings competition. Back before two major boards started (CG & PM), both based in Arizona, I didn't knoiw too many other fellas who were even interested in calling coyotes. Now they're out there tripping over each other, and I HATE competing with others for space to hunt.
I just want 'em to leave me alone so I can spend some time out in the mesquites.
I've met some good people through the boards over the years, and hunted with some of them. Most were better folks than they came across as on the boards (and most didn't come across as bad folks).
I met rockinbbar in '04 before he joined PM (heck, he's partly to blame for me being married now). I've hunted with Andy a few times, J-H, Moon Dog, Catskin, Mike Harter; heck, I even talked Vic into working over a little .38 special I still carry.
And I've seen things come between good friends, as well. It's not always the competition for fame that causes it, but I suspect it has something to do with it at times.
Naw, I'd rather be out in the brush calling coyotes with good friends than trying to get paid and/or become famous for it.
![[Wink]](wink.gif)
Daryl
Posts: 39 | From: Hereford, Arizona | Registered: Jun 2009
| IP: Logged
|
|
TOM64
Knows what it's all about
Member # 561
|
posted October 19, 2009 05:36 AM
What does it take to make it?
Same as with any other "sport" based on sales by the backers, a standout personality. You have to be memorable to everyone and good at pimping the product. Being good at your profession doesn't matter, coyotes aren't hard to call and digital tape is cheap.
All you need is a little start up money and a big smile. In some cases you don't even need that. I remember a deer hunter who killed a record buck with his bow and he was approached by several companies to say he used X equipment.
It's a crooked world with fools abundant.
But let's be careful to remember those few who really brought something to the industry without sponsors, long before a video was all it took.
Posts: 2283 | From: okieland | Registered: Feb 2005
| IP: Logged
|
|
Q-Wagoner
FREE TRIAL MEMBERSHIP
Member # 33
|
posted October 19, 2009 06:13 AM
Well CrossJ Shaw and I have been talking about that. We are thinking about changing the paint job and having it manufactured overseas. So there won't be any hard feelings, the good news is we HAVE just decided to allow you to be on our field staff.
When are you taking us hunting anyway?
Good hunting.
Q,
Posts: 617 | From: Nebraska | Registered: Jan 2003
| IP: Logged
|
|
Leonard
HMFIC
Member # 2
|
posted October 19, 2009 10:02 AM
Quinton. Why don't you ride along with Shaw and Geordie to the campout? That much face time with a couple of top hands should enhance your reputation, if if not your looks?
Hey, speaking of that, who else has noticed how much he's starting to look like Lance, with hair?
Tell ya what; whatever bullshit Byron has, he should bottle it and sell it to those wannbe's. Talk about somebody who has created an image based on nothing but charm and testimonials from his own silver tongue.
But damn! The "University" folded? Why wasn't I told!
Good hunting. LB
--------------------
EL BEE Knows It All and Done It All.
Don't piss me off!
Posts: 32361 | From: Upland, CA | Registered: Jan 2003
| IP: Logged
|
|
Leonard
HMFIC
Member # 2
|
posted October 19, 2009 10:15 AM
WOW! It's been right in front of me for days! Let your spacecraft loose it's tether with your Jack Russell on board, ready to deliver pups! Call The FAA, call TMZ!
This is gold, U better do it before Byron and Glenn, (or some other media whore) think of it.
[ October 19, 2009, 10:19 AM: Message edited by: Leonard ]
--------------------
EL BEE Knows It All and Done It All.
Don't piss me off!
Posts: 32361 | From: Upland, CA | Registered: Jan 2003
| IP: Logged
|
|
Q-Wagoner
FREE TRIAL MEMBERSHIP
Member # 33
|
posted October 19, 2009 12:54 PM
I would ride down with them Leonard but Shaw's not returning my phone calls and Geordy wants to kick my ass?
Good hunting.
Q,
Posts: 617 | From: Nebraska | Registered: Jan 2003
| IP: Logged
|
|
CrossJ
SECOND PLACE: PAUL RYAN Look-a-like contest
Member # 884
|
posted October 19, 2009 02:16 PM
LOL, I don't want to kick your ass.....I'm clearing a spot for you on my water tower.
Maintain
--------------------
A friend will help you move. A good friend will help you move a body.
Posts: 1025 | From: on a water tower | Registered: Jul 2006
| IP: Logged
|
|
Cdog911
"There are some ideas so absurd only an intellectual could believe them."--George Orwell.
Member # 7
|
posted October 19, 2009 07:40 PM
Q's got a long damned ways to go to get as good lookin' as me. That's why I call him "Uglier-than-me" all the time. And I have plenty of hair. It just isn't on top of my head anymore. ![[Eek!]](eek.gif)
--------------------
I am only one. But still, I am one. I cannot do everything, but still, I can do something; and, because I cannot do everything, I will not refuse to do something that I can do.
Posts: 5440 | From: The gun-lovin', gun-friendly wild, wild west | Registered: Jan 2003
| IP: Logged
|
|
Aznative
FARTS ON CLUELESS LIBERALS
Member # 506
|
posted October 20, 2009 03:58 PM
The first forum I found on the net concerning coyote calling was over at CG where you have to have a 17 rem. There was this guy that got on that forum, and he wanted to be just like JH. He bought a 17 rem and even hired those two to guide him. A year or two later he finally called one in on his own. I believe the article he wrote for them was something like "This is going to be easy".
Never turn your hobby into your job. Otherwise you hobby becomes work to you.
--------------------
Never thought the devil would need a teleprompter but I could be wrong.
United State of America: RIP
Born July 4th 1776 died November 6th 2012
Posts: 1937 | From: Phoenix Az | Registered: Jan 2005
| IP: Logged
|
|
Daryl
MODERATOR FORUM LURKER
Member # 3451
|
posted October 21, 2009 03:49 PM
quote:
The first forum I found on the net concerning coyote calling was over at CG where you have to have a 17 rem. There was this guy that got on that forum, and he wanted to be just like JH. He bought a 17 rem and even hired those two to guide him. A year or two later he finally called one in on his own. I believe the article he wrote for them was something like "This is going to be easy".
Never turn your hobby into your job. Otherwise you hobby becomes work to you.
He and I called in several coyotes one day a few years back, and then I had to boot him out of the truck on the way back for shooting a bobcat in the butt on the 2nd to last stand.
Or, that's the rumor about him ending up in the bar ditch. The rest is a fact. We found the bobcat and one coyote the next morning with dogs.
I'd rather call in one coyote with the Moon Dog than 20 with most others. He's a good guy, so get to know him a bit before you put him down.
He wouldn't be the first one beguiled on an internet forum.
Daryl
Posts: 39 | From: Hereford, Arizona | Registered: Jun 2009
| IP: Logged
|
|
Leonard
HMFIC
Member # 2
|
posted October 21, 2009 04:09 PM
Yeah, we won't bad mouth any of Vic's neighbors. From what I know of him, he's okay. But, I'm not sure the topic starter was putting him down, I think it was more of a message?
Good hunting. LB
PS besides that, I wouldn't want to mess with him, I hear he's man mountain, his self?
--------------------
EL BEE Knows It All and Done It All.
Don't piss me off!
Posts: 32361 | From: Upland, CA | Registered: Jan 2003
| IP: Logged
|
|
Daryl
MODERATOR FORUM LURKER
Member # 3451
|
posted October 21, 2009 06:36 PM
quote:
PS besides that, I wouldn't want to mess with him, I hear he's man mountain, his self?
Well, I ain't measured 'em, but I'm pretty sure he isn't as big as Andy. Not many are, though.
He'd make a couple of me though, which ain't so surprising, either.
Here he is with some sort of varmint critter we found up in northern New Mexico. He's the one what ain't got a rifle leaning on him.
[ October 21, 2009, 06:38 PM: Message edited by: Daryl ]
Posts: 39 | From: Hereford, Arizona | Registered: Jun 2009
| IP: Logged
|
|
Leonard
HMFIC
Member # 2
|
posted October 21, 2009 08:06 PM
What is that, an Enfield? In 17Remington?
Glorious moment! Tonight, on The ORelly Factor, Bill read a letter from a viewer in UPLAND, CA! Big WOW!
Good hunting. LB
[ October 21, 2009, 08:09 PM: Message edited by: Leonard ]
--------------------
EL BEE Knows It All and Done It All.
Don't piss me off!
Posts: 32361 | From: Upland, CA | Registered: Jan 2003
| IP: Logged
|
|
Rich
2,000th post PAKMAN
Member # 112
|
posted October 22, 2009 09:21 AM
Nice buffalo! Tell us about the rifle too will ya please?
--------------------
If you call the coyotes in close, you won't NEED a high dollar range finder.
Posts: 2854 | From: Iowa | Registered: Feb 2003
| IP: Logged
|
|
|
UBBFriend: Email this page to someone!
Printer-friendly view of this topic
