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You know, I have done alot of crazy shit in my life. Been throwed off horses, stomped and kicked and beaten by horses, cattle and men. I fall in my fuckin yard and screw up my shoulder, elbow and kneck in a blink of an eye.

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I reckon you better not be doing any dive rolls our of my truck then, huh? Sheesh, you old guys are great to hunt with, but seem a bit fragile at times.

That's ok though. Come on out and call some coyotes with me, Andy. I'll take it easy on ya; I promise!

Ok, I'll shut up now. Been feeling it myself for while.



Daryl
 

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Posted by Andy L (Member # 642) on August 26, 2009, 03:05 PM:
 
LOL Daryl, your a hoot.
 

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Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on August 26, 2009, 03:29 PM:
 
I'm not kidding. I broke my toe getting out of bed three or four days ago. My back has been bothering me so I decided to not put a strain on it and just roll out of bed, like I have never done before. I caught my little toe in the metal handle on one side of the dresser drawer, which is shaped like a recurved bow, tapered at both ends....perfect! I still can't figure out how I did it? Hurt like a MF. I have not worn a pair of shoes since.

Good luck on the MRI, Andy. I just got a shock two weeks ago on my hip and lower back MRI. The damned copay was $331!

Good hunting. LB
 

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Posted by Cdog911 (Member # 7) on August 26, 2009, 03:54 PM:
 
I had this really funny story to tell about the first time I blew my neck out, but it got too long and I deleted it. The second part was about the pain balm Ronnie sent me that made it feel a LOT better. That went, too.

I'll just tell Andy that I know how that neck feels, feel for ya man, and hope the MRI gets you going toward getting her fixed up. The wife is having her entire shoulder cleaned out a week from today for an injury somewhat like that RC tear.

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Posted by Lonny (Member # 19) on August 26, 2009, 04:31 PM:
 
Several years ago at the place where I work, a couple employees had the bright idea to form a softball team made up of co-workers and join a summer league.

I decided not to play because it had been at least a decade since I played any organized sport and I thought it would be a good way to probably screw up some part of my anatomy before hunting season.

A bunch of co-workers signed up with the majority in the 25-40 year-old range, but still consider themselves in 18-year-old bodies. After the first game, three people did not make it to work the next day. Backs, ankles, and shoulders all took a beating and the sick-time was being used at a rapid pace with one guy needing surgery. The next game got another guy or two bunged up. If I remember correctly, they barely finished the season due to a lack of healthy bodies. This was all from a group who do mostly physical work for a living but the rough world of city league softball dropped them like flies.
 

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Posted by Kokopelli (Member # 633) on August 26, 2009, 05:08 PM:
 
"Boomflop"
Luv the screen name!! Shotgun??
 

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Posted by Lonny (Member # 19) on August 26, 2009, 05:19 PM:
 
DAA and Leonard,

I'm not one to try and dole out medical advice, but you both mentioned backs hurting.

My back was giving me hell about a dozen years ago for an extended time. A guy I know suggested a system of stretches known as the Egosque Method that had helped him. I started doing them religiously every day before and after work.

It wasn't a two-week miracle change by any means, closer to several months, but things came around and I could notice small amounts of relief shortly after starting. I can honestly say that I feel great now and my back never gives me trouble anymore. Even when doing stuff that used to bug the hell out of me like running a chainsaw all day.

To each his own and like I said, I hate to give out medical advice, but after trying a bunch other remedies outside of surgery, this was the one that worked for me.
 

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Posted by DAA (Member # 11) on August 26, 2009, 06:14 PM:
 
Appreciate the thought Lonny. I do, have been for a couple of years now, religously every day, a routine of stretches and lumbar stabilization exercises that the last doctor I saw taught me. Helps. A lot. Pretty sure I'd have got cut, glued and screwed back together by now without it.

- DAA
 

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Posted by Rich Higgins (Member # 3) on August 26, 2009, 06:45 PM:
 
Sorry to hear of the pain, plight and ailments from you old farts.
I, myself, am feeling fantastic.
 

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Posted by Dusty Hunter (Member # 1031) on August 26, 2009, 07:20 PM:
 
Quote: "I, myself, am feeling fantastic." Me too, Rich, and I'm feeling even better now that you are posting again.
 

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Posted by R.Shaw (Member # 73) on August 26, 2009, 07:23 PM:
 

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FYI, dump the caffeine, dump the refined sugar, increase your water intake and you'll do much better. I drink only caffeine-free, sugar-free pop, decaf coffee, and a gallon of water everyday, and it really helps a lot.

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Six months later, I experienced a reaction to a steroid I was given for allergies and experienced a fun-filled hypertensive crisis where my BP went to 248/122.

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Damn Lance. Good thing you stopped when you did or you might be dead by now. LOL

Randy
 

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Posted by Dave Allen (Member # 3102) on August 26, 2009, 07:26 PM:
 
Don't laugh I myself experianced "Bolt-Action Inflammation" last spring. Some "wimp" doctor referred too my condition as "tennis elbow"

I was sure that my elbow had somehow became fractured or something. Anyway after x-rays & a few doctor visits they put my elbow in a brace & it finally went away.

Weird..I certainly had hoped for a more "Definitive" explanation for the cause of my pain. And in case anybodys wondering no I don't play tennis !!

Oh' Lonny did you go get your wolf tag yet ??

[ August 26, 2009, 09:34 PM: Message edited by: Dave Allen ]
 

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Posted by George Ackley (Member # 898) on August 26, 2009, 08:34 PM:
 
LB said,
I broke my toe getting out of bed three or four days ago.

your accident isn't funny pal, but how the hell did you brake you toe getting out of bed

Andy i hope all works out pal and a fast recovery
 

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Posted by Lonny (Member # 19) on August 26, 2009, 09:03 PM:
 
Dave Allen,

No, I didn't get my official wolf tag yet.

Actually I have a permanent, unlimited season, and no bag limit wolf tag that is free. You should get one of those if you haven't yet.

Yep, running those dang 9" grinders gave me a nice case of "grinders elbow" a few years back. I never went to the doc, but WebMD said thats what it was. I wore one of the gay looking compression bands for about a month on my forearm (luckily it was hidden under my coveralls) and it seemed to help. All is good now.

Dang, we are a bunch of broken down old men.
 

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Posted by Jrbhunter (Member # 459) on August 26, 2009, 09:07 PM:
 
George, simple matter of habit. He was used to all those years he woke up with a kick-stand set.

DAA, you really need to put "Don't Laugh" in FRONT of the comments about tennis elbow. Perhaps "Bolt-Action Inflammation" is in order?

I'd love to see those Eli-Lilly commercials; official BAI treatment of the NRA.
 

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Posted by Dave Allen (Member # 3102) on August 26, 2009, 09:45 PM:
 
Jrbhunter, I'm pretty sure your comment was directed toward's me & not DAA. Indeed sir you are correct & I cleaned up my post

Lonny I "gotta" look into one of those tags Myself I didn't stand in line with all the other 10,000 or so that did in the last two day's I didn't figure you did either..Lol..
 

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Posted by Jrbhunter (Member # 459) on August 26, 2009, 10:01 PM:
 
Sorry DA, sometimes I get excited at the chance to drop double-vowels.

Randy I missed your post above. You're right, when the goin' gets that tough... two words come to mind.
 

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Posted by Locohead (Member # 15) on August 27, 2009, 03:44 AM:
 
Yikes Andy! Sorry to hear about the fall. I wonder sometimes if the inability to spring right back like when we were young might have something to do with our size - atleast a little anyway. I don't know about you guys, but I was a skinny little guy in High School; that was about 100 lbs. ago! LOL You must fit pretty snug in an MRI machine - I didn't even realize someone with 3 foot wide shoulders could fit into one of those things! Jeepers - I hate those - really really badly. I might even prefer solitary confinement for a day in lieu of 20 minutes in that devil's dungeon.

Dave, do you wear a helmet? I wrecked on my bike going pretty fast about 10 years ago (all my fault - not enough front brake and way too much back) Anyway, the momentum was pushing me way faster than I can run when I landed so I rolled and rolled and rolled. All I got was a quarter sized scratch on my elbow and a sore butt. But man 'o man, you should of seen my helmet - really long deep scratches all around it. Very SPOOKY to wonder "What if...?"
 

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Posted by boomflop (Member # 3474) on August 27, 2009, 06:26 AM:
 
Kokopelli---

you got the shotgun part right-- last couple years I have had to change tactics. thick cover and the shotgun have helped get my numbers back up--to much pressure in southern nevada these days
 

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Posted by Dusty Hunter (Member # 1031) on August 27, 2009, 09:36 AM:
 
No disrespect intended but two threads on our aches and pains? Yes, I have my own batch of them. Perhaps we need to start a Forum under Geriatrics.?
 

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Posted by Tim Behle (Member # 209) on August 27, 2009, 09:53 AM:
 
I was thinking the same thing Fred, But then I'd rather listen to them bitching about themselves, than about each other. These two threads bring a smile to my face.

I figure pain is God's way of letting me know that he's not done with me yet, and he's giving me another day to try and get things right!

I've been beaten, shot at, cut up and cussed more times that I care to recall. But I'm still here, Thankful for each day that I've yet one more chance, to try to make up for the sins of my youth. My daily aches and pains and handfuls of pills are a daily reminder of where I've been and what I've done. I wouldn't wish my afflictions on anyone, but it's nice to know that I'm not alone in feeling the results of life.
 

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Posted by Az-Hunter (Member # 17) on August 27, 2009, 09:56 AM:
 
Face it; we're just an old predator hunters car lot, with the lions share of models which are "clunkers". It just depends on the make(genetics), year(age),type of driving done(taking care of yourself),etc. We are all headed for the junkyard, the time is negotiable?
Some of us are Fords,Chevys,Dodges, and others seem to be Edsels. Depending on make,model,year and maintainance records, and replacement parts......mileage is going to vary:)
 

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Posted by Andy L (Member # 642) on August 27, 2009, 10:32 AM:
 
If I do make it, I may have to lean on ya, Dr. Vic. You gonna take care of me?

Danny, that tube is tight. This is gonna suck since they are doing two scans. Ill be in there a while. I gotta suck my shoulders in tight to slide in.
 

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Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on August 27, 2009, 10:43 AM:
 
Who you calling an Edsel?
 

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Posted by Dusty Hunter (Member # 1031) on August 27, 2009, 11:22 AM:
 
Quote: "Who you calling an Edsel?"

Hey Tim, here we go.
 

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Posted by Bob Mc (Member # 237) on August 27, 2009, 12:52 PM:
 
And I was feeling sorry for myself because I had the flu last week. Geez! Everyone here is a wreck!
 

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Posted by Daryl (Member # 3451) on August 27, 2009, 01:00 PM:
 

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If I do make it, I may have to lean on ya, Dr. Vic. You gonna take care of me?

Danny, that tube is tight. This is gonna suck since they are doing two scans. Ill be in there a while. I gotta suck my shoulders in tight to slide in.

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Randy
 

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Posted by Kelly Jackson (Member # 977) on August 27, 2009, 01:28 PM:
 
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Posted by DAA (Member # 11) on August 27, 2009, 01:38 PM:
 
Andy, I don't envy you that MRI crap at all. Talking about being able to fit in the machine reminds me of something pretty funny I saw once though.

My Sister's husband is a big guy. He wrecked the shit out of my ATV once. Broke some bones and got knocked out in the process. I took him to the closest place for treatment, which was in Caliente, Nevada. Little clinic type place. No real doctor there either. But the nurse that was there, decides my BIL needs an MRI. The MRI is a "portable", in a trailer out in the parking lot. She wheels him out there has him climb on the table and then she starts trying to wedge him in that thing. But he wasn't fitting. AT ALL. She was actually backing up the table and making a running start at trying to cram him in. He's tying not to sound TOO much like a little girl because I'm watching the whole thing and he knows he'll hear about it for the rest of my life. He can't help letting out a couple of pretty sickly sounding gasps and a minor scream or two. Finally, a more senior nurse (I guess?), pulls into the parking lot and walks over to see WTF. When she saw that other nurse, trying to cram BIL (who it turns out had broken arm, wrist, collar bone and ribs) into a tunnel he was clearly, NEVER going to fit into, she got all pissed off and put an end to it. I thought it was funny as hell though.

- DAA
 

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Posted by Andy L (Member # 642) on August 27, 2009, 02:13 PM:
 
MRI doesnt bother me much. Uncomfortable. But I dont panic as long as I keep my eyes closed. If I do open them, I have to look back over my head and see daylight to keep from freakin out again.

Doc mentioned that since I was going to be in there so long to do two scans, he was going to order a little sumpin to keep me calm. I hope to see a little blue pill laying on the counter when I get the gown on. LOL
 

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Posted by Andy L (Member # 642) on August 27, 2009, 02:14 PM:
 
I guess I could take a shot or two of that good ole Ozark Head Buster before the ordeal. Between that and the valium, they may have a hard time gettin me out of there. LOL
 

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Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on August 27, 2009, 03:57 PM:
 
HAL9000: Caliente is getting within my area, Dave. I thought we had an agreement?

My MRI was supposed to be 3X30 minutes each, with a potty break after the first two, but then he caught me wiggling and I had to do the last one over. It was pure torture, I'm sure it was about two hours and during the first two, all I could think about was the mistake of folding my arms on to my chest. I had them along my sides for the last one and it was a lot better. I couldn't expand my chest properly and comfortably.

I had to do all of it with a cloth over my eyes, which helped, a lot. I just couldn't take the claustrophobic feeling. Never knew I was that way? Yelled like hell for a "do over".

Also, I got music for the last two, don't know why I could have it for the first hour?

If you guys think these things are a picnic; think again.....and quit with the old and broke down jokes, okay?

Good hunting. LB
 

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Posted by RagnCajn (Member # 879) on August 27, 2009, 04:12 PM:
 
I just got back from my deer camp. Spent the last two days cutting, bushhogging and running a chainsaw. I hurt all over.

Leonard, my wife had to come in to see what I was laughing at. Breaking your toe in a drawer handle while getting out of bed is some funny stuff.
 

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Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on August 27, 2009, 04:20 PM:
 
Yeah Randy, that's what I meant to say: "some funny stuff" rather than, it hurt like hell!

I still haven't worn a shoe. Where's the sympathy, people?

Good hunting. LB
 

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Posted by Paul Melching (Member # 885) on August 27, 2009, 04:44 PM:
 
Leonard if I had a violin and could play....
enough of this crap already a day above the dirt is a great day!
 

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Posted by Cdog911 (Member # 7) on August 27, 2009, 07:53 PM:
 
Haha, Shaw. Yeah, I coulda died, man! fact is. all my problems are congenital. My dad had many of the same problems, just in different parts of his back, as did my grandpa, my uncle, my brother, sister, niece. I just have to be careful not to piss any of the weak spots off. Whole bunch o' cripples. Thank God for Obamacare on the horizon. We'll all just get a pain pill and drift away.

Speaking of pills, Andy.... hope they give you the right little blue pill before they stick you in that tube. Otherwise, you're liable to hang up
 

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Posted by Paul Melching (Member # 885) on August 27, 2009, 08:08 PM:
 
Lance I cant wait for Obama care ,if your over lets say 55 just get in the box damnit we'll take care of everything.
You wont hear it on network in the tank complicit news ,but the rest of the world is watching and are very proud of the angry mob.
They know the end result of what he's pushing and want out.not to offend but if you want a good look into the future just look at lets say
soso security
medicare
medicaid
fannie mae
freddymac
postal service
the list goes on there is nothing they touch that doesnt go to shit or at the very least go broke. with that track record I think we should just trust that they have our best intrests at heart. now just get in the box everything will be fine.

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Posted by Az-Hunter (Member # 17) on August 27, 2009, 08:45 PM:
 
Hold on to your hat Paul, when the latest shovel ready project, Uncle Ted is planted, they are going to tie him into the health care debate so tight, we will never hear the end of it.
The best we can hope for is the "mobs" get bigger and louder and push this shit back to the stone age. Im tired of hearing it 24/7. If only they spent as much time concentrating on cutting spending and getting rid of the various programs they have enacted, I could get excited about politics.
 

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Posted by Tim Behle (Member # 209) on August 27, 2009, 08:55 PM:
 

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Shit, I've been getting an MRI every 2-3 months for the last few years, and I've yet to find any Viagra on the table. Maybe you are gong to the wrong place? Try a hospital instead of Boy's town? ( Just don't expect the same happy ending )

And The Clinic I go to also advertises the only OPEN MRI in Cochise county ( it's for fat people ) it's in that converted semi trailer behind the hospital. (But I still fit inside the donut!)
 

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Posted by kodiak61 (Member # 3255) on August 28, 2009, 01:03 AM:
 
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Posted by Andy L (Member # 642) on August 28, 2009, 02:23 AM:
 
Tim thats funny. I never thought of Viagra when I said that. That might make it hard to fit into the tube. LMAO

The clinic I went to had an open MRI they could have done Wednesday when I was there. He didnt want to use it. Says the pics suck. He wants the coffin. Ive had so many of them it really doesnt bother me too bad. Especially with a VALIUM and a couple shots of shine.
 

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Posted by Paul Melching (Member # 885) on August 28, 2009, 05:45 AM:
 
Be carful Andy if I remember correctly that shine made me wanna dance,wouldnt work to well in the tube.
Vic ,if Obammy care gets passed there will be alot of shovel ready work! this musta been what theys talkin about.
 

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Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on August 28, 2009, 10:49 AM:
 
Bulletin: Barefoot, Missouri Aug. 28, 2009

Details are sketchy. In a chain of unfortunate circumstances, a local man is recovering after losing part of his body in an MRI machine that malfunctioned. Technicians, working on a stuck table mistakenly installed a heavy duty, high speed motor while the patient, a corn fed local man was sedated with three times the normal amount of Vicodin. Authorities are still investigating how the blue pills were administered to the nervious gentleman, and how the mixup occured. What is known is that the operator had forgotten that the safety latch was engaged and unfortunately, the tech's trainee released it with the table under pressure.

The investigating officer said the scene resembled a collision on the Interstate with a bus hitting the overpass abutment at high speed, throwing limbs and body parts into oncoming traffic.

Mr Andy J. Bubba was taken to HumptyDumpty Memorial where a hastily assembled team of Vets are attempting to reattach something but hospital staff, citing patient confidentiality, for some unknown reason, declined to identify the mangled body part?

Channel 4's reporter, Cindy (hot pants) Sizzler is standing by for an exclusive interview, however, the man's family is asking for a substitute.

In the meantime, claim adjusters from Allstate Insurance requested estimates from every body shop in town and foot longs from Subway, but it is expected the machine will be declared a total loss, unless it can be converted to the only "open MRI" in Cochise County.
 

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Posted by Rich (Member # 112) on August 28, 2009, 11:39 AM:
 
"Details are sketchy. In a chain of unfortunate circumstances, a local man is recovering after losing part of his body in an MRI machine that malfunctioned."
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Shut the Hell up Leonard, you pin hed! That thought even scares ME.

[ August 28, 2009, 11:40 AM: Message edited by: Rich ]
 

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Posted by Andy L (Member # 642) on August 28, 2009, 12:20 PM:
 
Your an ornery ole cuss. LMFAO
 

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Posted by Bofire (Member # 221) on August 28, 2009, 01:02 PM:
 
Every one is old and hurt but Higgins, that just aint right, I gotta get another neck fusion,

Well Rich Higgins you might feeel fine but yer still UGLY!
Carl
 

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Posted by Cdog911 (Member # 7) on August 28, 2009, 04:55 PM:
 
Bofire,

they keep telling me that I'll ultimately have to go the way of that neck fusion. For the rest of you, that's where they go in and insert bone chips from your hips between the vertebrae in your neck after removing those pesky discs, and as if that isn't scary enough, they go in from the front, on either side of your voice box! Nope. I'll tough it out.

Paul,

As an employee of the Postal Service, I can assure you that there is an entire "other side" to what has happened to us. I may take a few minutes to write another book and explain how Congress has screwed us up so everyone can foresee what will be their health insurance down the line.

Oh, what the hell, here are a few of the bullet points...

Did you hear that in 1982, COngress took away all federal finanical support from the Dept. of the Post office, renamed in the US Postal Service, and forced them to compete directly with private enterprise like UPS, but won't allow USPS to play by the same beneficial tax laws, like depreciating assets? That's killing us.

Or, did you hear that with the Postal Reauthorization Act of 2006, Congress mandated that the USPS prefund retirement and healthcare expenses for all current employees - something that no other agency or private company has ever had to do? better yet, did you hear that in FY2008, USPS was forced to contribute $8 BILLION to that fund, which put USPS $3 billion in the hole. In other words, if it weren't for Congress' stupid idea, USPS would have been $3 biliion to the good that year. In FY2008, if we didn't have to contribute to this fund, we'd have been $400,000 in the black.

Or, has anyone told you that in the last two years, USPS has reduced its workforce by nearly 137,000 people, and by 10,000,000 man-hours? No one's said a thing about that, have they? Nor did theys ay much about the fact that through our hard work and cooperation between management and employees, we were able to reduce our losses by $6 BILLION in just ending FY2009. No other federal agency can come close to making these draconian cuts, but we have. And still, the myth continues to exist that USPS gets tax money. We don't. Our operating revenue comes from the sale of stamps, and nothing more. TYhe loss of 3rd class business mail due to a failing economy has killed us. E-mail and online transactions/ banking are a part of it, but not the main part. When the economy turns around, so will we, but we won't be able to make money to cover our bottom line until Congress releases its death clutch on us. They get involved deeply in that which they know nothing about, and health care will be even worse.

[ August 28, 2009, 07:59 PM: Message edited by: Cdog911 ]
 

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Posted by Bofire (Member # 221) on August 29, 2009, 09:19 AM:
 
I got a cool little piece of titainium too! I got the MRI go see the Doc next Friday. When you lose feeling in your hands and shake all the time and ache,
ya gotta decide which is worse.
Hope you stay healthy
Carl
 

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Posted by Locohead (Member # 15) on August 29, 2009, 02:09 PM:
 
Gee Lance, Go postal on the guy why don't you! LOL

I'm sorry I couldn't resist. You are right, we never hear about that stuff. The info. you provided is all news to me. Wow, it both surprises me and doesn't at all.
 

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Posted by Kokopelli (Member # 633) on August 31, 2009, 12:14 PM:
 
A wise man once said that to know the future, you must study the past. Is there ANY reason to belive that congress will not commit the same crimes against health care that they have against the post office????
 

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Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on August 31, 2009, 12:31 PM:
 
I saw a provocative headline a while ago.

GOVERNMENT MANDATED CIRCUMCISION!

True or not, it fits perfectly with the rest of their ideas and policies.

Gooddddd hunting. LB
 

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Posted by skoal (Member # 1492) on August 31, 2009, 01:22 PM:
 
posted August 31, 2009 12:14 PM
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A wise man once said that to know the future, you must study the past. Is there ANY reason to belive that congress will not commit the same crimes against health care that they have against the post office????

Not blaming the postal service ,about as effective as the genreals were in Viet Nam cant fight a war from congress nor can you run a bussiness that way.
 

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Posted by Ridge Runner (Member # 3477) on August 31, 2009, 03:37 PM:
 
letting the government run any type of free enterprize is dead on the water, all those businesses that they bailed out and took over an interest in, were run exactly like the government, the only things that keep the government running are
1) they answer to know one, no owners shareholders or anyone other but themselves so there is no accountability
2) they make good use of the never-ending cashflow from the pocket of the american taxpayer.

So they bail out companies that were ran poorly, and went broke, paid the guys who ran them poorly even bigger money and what do you thinks gonna happen? its throwing good money after bad.
RR
 

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