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Posted by Cdog911 (Member # 7) on August 19, 2009, 05:49 PM:
Well, I finally got there. Had to go to bifocals today and, well, they SUCK!!! Feel like I'm drunk. Wishing I was drunk. I think I'm gonna puke. This fishbowl effect is killing me. Got out of my pickup when I got home and as I walked between the truck and car, I turned my head. The illusion was that both vehicles were rolling backwards. 'Bout jumped clean outta my skin.
How long does this crap last?
Anything you old farts can tell me that I might want to know?
My eyes hurt. ![[Frown]](frown.gif)
Posted by Paul Melching (Member # 885) on August 19, 2009, 06:02 PM:
Yeah Lance this is where it starts and its downhill from there lol ![[Eek!]](eek.gif)
Posted by Aznative (Member # 506) on August 19, 2009, 06:26 PM:
I hate to tell what's next. Getting old isn't for whimps.
Posted by Cdog911 (Member # 7) on August 19, 2009, 07:13 PM:
Oh, I'm well past the beginning. Five years ago, just after my 40th b-day, I went to the doctor and requested the full Monte. Told him I was feeling pretty good and knew, from my years in EMS, the importance of establishing baseline numbers to be used for comparisons later on. He commended me for my being so proactive.
Six months later, I experienced a reaction to a steroid I was given for allergies and experienced a fun-filled hypertensive crisis where my BP went to 248/122. I could feel my heart just pounding in my neck and ears, and as if that wasn't bad enough, the pounding quickly revealed an irregularity in my heart beat. Many tests later, we found a small problem with my heart that has probably been with me since childhood, if not birth, and it's still there, but no big deal.
Right after that, I blew a disc in my neck for the first time. Let me tell ya... that's the kinda pain that'll make ye shit nekkid babies, boys. My gawd that hurt! Happened again not too long later and I lost the use of my right arm for two weeks. I now wish it on my worst enemies. Told the doc that I was better off not knowing how healthy I am and just wanna go back to ignorant.
This past season, I ruptured a disc in my lower back, if you can believe this, calling coyotes. I guess, according to the physical therapist that treated me, the way I sit - crosslegged on the ground leaning slightly forward at the waist - is bad. Hey guys? When your legs go numb after about fifteen minutes, IT'S BECAUSE YOU'RE STRAINING THE SPOT WHERE THE NERVES GO THROUGH THE DISC IN YOUR SPINE AND, IF YOU DON'T STOP, YOU'LL BLOW A BIG-ASSED HOLE IN THE SIDE OF IT AND, BTW, IT HURTS REALLY, REALLY BAD! Healthy now, thanks to those 8 shots right into the nerve root. THAT HURTS, TOO! ![[Wink]](wink.gif)
So, what's the trade off here? Aging and pain? When do the good times start?
Posted by RagnCajn (Member # 879) on August 19, 2009, 07:41 PM:
I went through the same thing last year. Two pair of glasses. One for reading and one for everything else. I opted for Lasik at the age of 48. Wish I had done it earlier. I now have 20-20 vision. I will probably need reading glasses in a few years and I need some asistance in the form of some type of magnifcation still today if I am working on something tedius.
If you are a candidate for Lasik, I highly recommend it.
Posted by Dave Allen (Member # 3102) on August 19, 2009, 08:32 PM:
I'm with you guy's. I will admit that I'm "envious" of those who enjoy good vision. I'm 45 years old & have needed vision correction since I was about 15 years old.
I started wearing contact lenses @ 19 years old. As I'm getting older I wear my contacts 3-4 weeks, then a week or so with glasses to give my eyes a break.
Everything was fine until three years ago, I then found myself reaching for my bosses 1x power reading glasses too read fine print. While wearing contacts..Lol..
I wear contacts mostly & keep 1x power reading glasses on hand @ all times, when I wear glasses I peak over them too read fine print !!
Ya can't win !!
[ August 19, 2009, 09:51 PM: Message edited by: Dave Allen ]
Posted by Kokopelli (Member # 633) on August 19, 2009, 08:40 PM:
I've got the 'no line' bi-focals. They tried to kill me for about the first 6 months by making things seem to be where they weren't. Not too bad now.
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on August 19, 2009, 10:22 PM:
One word: blended trifocal polycarbonate.
Posted by Cdog911 (Member # 7) on August 20, 2009, 04:43 AM:
Mine are no-line bifoacls, and yeah, they tend to make things where they aren't.
I can't wear polycarbonate. I guess a percentage of people can't. Last year, they made my lenses out of polycarbonate because "it's better" and something about them just made me miserable. Felt like my eyes were trying to climb right of the sockets trying to focus on stuff.
Tried contacts last year, too, but I have astigmatism in my right eye and I just couldn't get used to that thing being in my right eye. Always felt like I had sand in there.
Been wearing glasses since I was 13, and needed them long before that but never complained. I always thought the world was supposed to be a abit out of focus. Can't imagine being able to open your eyes, sit up in bed and see everything crystal clear.
After a night's rest, the fish bowling seems less noticeable. The doctor's staff told me to just wear them and resist the temptation to put on my old ones as it will just prolong the growing accustomed period.
Posted by Kokopelli (Member # 633) on August 20, 2009, 09:18 AM:
Best advice that I can give you is to learn to point your nose at what you want to see. Sounds hokey but it will help. It just takes a while. Stairs are a load of fun too. Most folks can walk down stairs with barely a glance at the steps. Things change when the glance shows two or three focal planes. One step at a time & easy does it. Be glad that you're getting used to them now instead of in the winter when there may be ice involved.
Oh.......... and small children will make fun of the way you walk. Might as well get used to that too 'cause as your back, hips & knees give out from age, it will be an ongoing thing. Cheers!!
Posted by Bob Mc (Member # 237) on August 20, 2009, 12:23 PM:
I hate bifocals, especially for walking. I only use them to see with. ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif)
Actually I would rather have 2 pairs of glasses; one pair to see out yonder (driving etc) and another pair for reading. Someone told me long ago not to ever get old, but do you think I would listen?
Posted by Cdog911 (Member # 7) on August 20, 2009, 05:04 PM:
Well, now, Kokopelli, that does pose a quandry. I have 538 houses on my mail route, and most of them have at least a stair to navigate, not to mention the 14 miles of walkiing it takes to get from the first to the last. Your information concerns me. LOL
Actually, today was the first day wearing them on the route and I'm already seeing some improvement in my adjustment to them. Did manage to misstep off four stairs this afternoon but never went to the ground. Out in the open, I do okay. Here at the house, indoors, where things are close up, it's still pretty hinky. And, yes, everyone keeps telling me to point my nose at what I'm trying to see.
Only problem I have left is that there's a gawdamned fly buzzing around me right now and I've missed him three times with the swatter.
Posted by Kokopelli (Member # 633) on August 20, 2009, 08:30 PM:
"..... a fly buzzing around & I've missed him three times with the swatter"
The Force, CDog........... Use the Force.
Posted by DanS (Member # 316) on August 22, 2009, 10:30 AM:
I've been wearing bi-focals for about the last eight years, since I turned 40. Sucks, that I am thinking of getting trifocals for work so I can read stuff over my head when I have to look up at work.
I thought about getting that lasic or whatever surgery, but I have an astigmatism, (hope I spelled them right). I'm also a bit scared of putting my eyes under a knife/lazor/ whatever.
Posted by 3 Toes (Member # 1327) on August 23, 2009, 05:35 AM:
Good grief Lance, you're falling apart at the seams. I think we are roughly the same age. I'm sure glad I'm holding together better!
I had my eyes checked a year or so ago and was found to still be 20/20. I told the doc I didn't think I could see as good as I used to, but he said I still see better than most. My wife on the other hand is either going to have to break down for reading glasses or grow longer arms.
Posted by Cdog911 (Member # 7) on August 23, 2009, 08:31 AM:
Yeah, Cal, what you said. I'm starting to think maybe I should have tried something a little easier on the frame, like rodeo. LOL You should feel lucky. As rough as some of my days are getting, looking around, I think I have it better than most. What is it they say about "golden years"?
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on August 23, 2009, 11:24 AM:
Yeah, the "Golden Years", deserving it's own topic. Like Lance and Cal, I'll be getting there, one of these days.
I broke my toe getting out of bed a couple days ago, I shit you not. I sprained my wrist just digging up a yucca the day before. I didn't sign up for this, I want my money back!
Good hunting. LB
Posted by Rich (Member # 112) on August 23, 2009, 01:12 PM:
"I broke my toe getting out of bed a couple days ago, I shit you not. I sprained my wrist just digging up a yucca the day before."
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Too many Birthdays often causes those things Leonard. As for glasses, you would look real masculine with a pair of those itty bitty, round lense glasses in wire frames on ya. The girls would simply swoon when they saw you with those things on. Honest they would Leonard. I wouldn't kid around about something that serious ya know.
![[Cool]](cool.gif)
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on August 23, 2009, 02:29 PM:
Thanks for that advice, Rich. I can tell you with all due modesty, that it has not been necessary, so far? But, one never knows when they lose that MOJO, does one?
Good hunting. LB
PS seriously, small lenses do not leave much room for trifocals. And, if you guys have not yet found the need to focus at distances greater than normal reading, out to 30 inches or so, then you aren't so much of a handyman.
[ August 23, 2009, 02:31 PM: Message edited by: Leonard ]
Posted by Tim Behle (Member # 209) on August 24, 2009, 01:34 AM:
Maybe if you'd have listened to your Mother's warning, you wouldn't be going blind now.....
Posted by Andy L (Member # 642) on August 24, 2009, 07:15 AM:
Im putting it off. Ive had prescription glasses for about 3 yrs now. I wear my sunglasses when I can cause nobody knows they are script and they look kewl and I got light sensitive eyes anyway, so it works out good. I wont wear my other ones if anyone is around, ANYONE. I guess its foolish pride.
Now, my eyes are deteriorating. My wife laughed the other day when I told her I could see shapes and light. Im not jokin gawddammit! Those big green roadsigns on the interstate, the ones anyone can read from 1/8 mile or so and I always prided myself on reading from 1/2 mile or better? Well, Im lucky if in a strange place if I can read those damned things before missing an exit! And thats with those damned script sunglasses. Im going to have to break down and go back to that damned eye guy.
Not to mention hearing. I do more and more nodding and smiling. My wife gets pissed thinking Im ignoring her but I just plain cant hear shit. I had my ears cleaned a couple times recently and it helped just a little, but not much.
Smellers about done. Last night I was in town and appearantly they had a sewage leak and appearantly it stunk like hell. At least thats what everyone around me kept telling me. I couldnt tell ya if they are a bunch of damned liars or not.
Im not even going to get into the whole lumbar, neck, ankle, knee problems I have been dealing with forever. And now, since I broke my damned elbow a couple months ago, appearantly thats not all that happened in that fall, other problems are now showing up that the sling is gone, I will know Wednesday when I get back from the Orthopedic Surgeon, but I can add most likely shoulder and more neck troubles to the list.
My cholesterol runs right around the high mark, about 200, as long as I take the pill everyday. Otherwise its about 375. My blood pressure has been pretty good, unless Im in pain, then it spikes. Problem is, I cant hardly move without some sort of pain shooting down a leg or arm, so it spikes several times a day.
Gettin old aint for pussies.
Oh yeah, and Ill be 42 on the 15th of next month. Me and LB are the same age!
[ August 24, 2009, 07:19 AM: Message edited by: Andy L ]
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on August 24, 2009, 09:32 AM:
You still can't get anything right! I said I was BORN in '42, you knucklehead! ![[Smile]](smile.gif)
Good hunting. LB
Posted by Andy L (Member # 642) on August 24, 2009, 09:40 AM:
ROTFLMFAO
Yeah, but that must be a special day for both of us to claim it as our birthday, eh?
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on August 24, 2009, 10:07 AM:
Oh? I don't remember that, but you are correct. I will tell you one thing, birthdays do indeed fly by! I'm constantly moving the goalposts, as far as who's old, and who's a whippersnapper. Hell, my black suit is 42....regular.
Good hunting. LB
PS I hope you and your shine make the ronde.
Posted by TOM64 (Member # 561) on August 24, 2009, 10:33 AM:
I turn 45 tommorrow. I can't hear crap, I can't see anything up close, my right knee is going and my hands go to sleep but that's a good thing, when they ain't asleep they ache.
But my BP is fine and I'm in pretty good shape considering. Getting old sucks but it's better than the alternative.
Posted by Bob Mc (Member # 237) on August 24, 2009, 10:43 AM:
Geez Andy, you're a freakin' wreck! And 42? You're just a kid.
Posted by Kokopelli (Member # 633) on August 24, 2009, 11:36 AM:
Ah yes, the 'Young Whipper-Snappers'. Interesting to note that most of my generation can't get going in the morning without a cup of coffee....... and we're falling apart. The young-uns on the other hand can't seem to get going in the morning until they've had an Energy Drink & those things make coffee look like spring water. I have to wonder what the long term effects are going to be. I'm guessing it ain't gonna be pretty.
Posted by Andy L (Member # 642) on August 24, 2009, 12:40 PM:
KoKo, I cant get going without a couple cups of coffee in the morning. And, I just finished my second Rockstar for the day and Im still fricken tired. LOL
Posted by Kokopelli (Member # 633) on August 24, 2009, 02:59 PM:
Andy;
Somewhere, a cardiologist is feelin' your luv. Those energy drinks will wind you up to the point that you can't get good sleep, causing you to be tired and needing......... another energy drink. Those things will hurt you in the long run.
Posted by Andy L (Member # 642) on August 24, 2009, 03:47 PM:
I know KOKO. I dont know what to do? I do go 24/7 and dont sleep much. My damn phone rings full time. But thats the job I chose so I dont bitch.
Anyway, Bob, I know what you mean. Im a late model with high mileage. LOL
Posted by Cdog911 (Member # 7) on August 24, 2009, 03:51 PM:
Andy,
FYI, dump the caffeine, dump the refined sugar, increase your water intake and you'll do much better. I drink only caffeine-free, sugar-free pop, decaf coffee, and a gallon of water everyday, and it really helps a lot. (I can't pass up a 3 musketeers, though.) You get the headaches at first, and piss like a racing horse, but your body grows used to things and you get over it. You'd be surprised at how crappy you feel from that stuff. I know I was once I took the leap. Nowadays, I hit the sack at 10 and am usually out for the night by 10:20.
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on August 24, 2009, 04:26 PM:
Did he just say, dump the caffeine? Like what's in coffee? Got any more advice, Doc?
I should mention that I stopped taking 81 milligram aspirin just because YOU advised it. My other doctor countermanded that advice a couple months later.
Oh well, you meant well, and I survived, no harm done.
But coffee? Cripes, that would make me a mean sob, I think? What else is there to live for? Why risk it?
Next, I bet you're going to tell me to cut out sex, because, at my advanced age, my heart can't take it?
Good hunting. LB
Posted by 3 Toes (Member # 1327) on August 24, 2009, 04:27 PM:
Damn you guys are making me feel good! I have had my share of wrecks over the years. Had both legs broken bad enough to be operated on(different times) and the same with one shoulder. Several ribs, my nose a couple times, one arm, one wrist, most of my fingers (four at once). But I also am pushing the big four five this year and I feel great!. I see, smell and hear good. No aches, pains, nothing. Probably could stand to lose 10 pounds and thats about it. CDog is correct about the water. I still drink a couple cups of coffee in the morning, but then no pop or energy drinks. I never have liked pop at all. But lots of water makes aches and pains disappear. Muscles don't get sore or nothing. You guys are falling apart!
Posted by Andy L (Member # 642) on August 24, 2009, 04:29 PM:
Good for you Lance. Question. Do you have people calling you at various times all night to get their asses out of jail? Its not as bad as it used to be, we got enough agents that most I just send somebody else and go back to sleep. However, any sleep interruption takes me a while to wind back down.
In the days where I had to physically go on every call I was worn even slicker than now.
Posted by Kelly Jackson (Member # 977) on August 24, 2009, 05:06 PM:
Dang being fat and over 50 don't seem to feel as bad as it did this morning.
Posted by Cdog911 (Member # 7) on August 24, 2009, 05:15 PM:
Leonard,
I never even knew you were on baby aspirin, so it wasn't me that suggested you stop them. In fact, if your history indicates so, they're good.
Andy, fifteen years in EMS. 24-hour shifts. Getting called out of bed 3-4 times a night. Sixty seconds to be out of bed, fully dressed, pulling through the door, and fully awake so I didn't kill somebody. Yeah, I feel your pain. Yours is a lifestyle, like EMS was for me. After those years, I decided I shouldn't have to put myself through that for that kind of money - and it's not the kinda thing a guy needs to die over. I'm just suggesting some changes that will make you maybe feel better because they helped me. Take 'em or leave 'em, your call. But, you're getting to the point in time, and from your descriptions of how you feel, those energy drinks are taking a toll on you. That sudden hit of high caffeine and sugar does bad stuff to your heart. Take care of yourself.
Posted by Dusty Hunter (Member # 1031) on August 24, 2009, 05:27 PM:
In three months I'll be 60 years old. Over a year ago I quit drinking alcohol and gave up caffeine. I try to get a little exercise now and then and get most of it during hunting season. I've got screws in my body, scars on my body.
When I wake up in the morning, the first thing I do is look at my two big toes. If there isn't a toe tag on them, I know I'm going to have a good day. By the way, thanks for making me feel good, fellas. Fred
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on August 24, 2009, 06:59 PM:
Lance, it sure as hell was you. I just looked at your recent history, and couldn't find the post without taking the Board down and doing a complete search of your 3000+ posts. But I don't want to find it that bad. So, let's just say it could have been someone else. But the gist of the advice was, don't take that dosage unless you have a specific reason, and I didn't, so I said, to myself;
quote:
fuck it, just because my wife said I should take it, maybe I don't need it?
And, I stopped taking it, and the next time I saw my doctor, I volunteered that Cdog told me that I didn't need to take 81mg aspirin unless I had a reason. He promptly assured me that it would be good (for me) to take it daily.
Scout's Honor. LB
Posted by Cdog911 (Member # 7) on August 24, 2009, 07:51 PM:
Maybe I did, but that's because, as a rule, you need to consult with your MD before beginning and maintaining any regimen of meds,including aspirin. Once the dr has ruled out any problems you might have as far as a history of hemmorhagic stroke or blood disorders, you're safe to take it, and if you have a problem with needing blood thinners, you definitely need to be on something, and 81mg of aspirin can do wonders for you. Left unmonitored, I've seen people on aspirin longterm have all kinds of problems with bleeding ulcers, etc.. Therefore, if I suggested you not take it, I'm pretty sure it was prefaced with the advice that you don't take it unless your doctor is aware of it, and that when he gives you the go light to begin taking it, it will be after he has weighed its benefits against your personal medical history.
I commend you for being proactive. A lot of people aren't. They wait for the wheels to fall off the wagon before getting things looked at.
Posted by Cdog911 (Member # 7) on September 09, 2009, 08:09 PM:
Alright, I gave up on those infernal progressive bifocals. Had to be some sadistic sumbitch that came up with those.
To anyone who might be considering them, here is what the ladies at the optometrists didn't tell me and which, had I known, would have saved me at least two weeks of headaches, literally.
Progressives, unlike regular bifocals, only allow you to see clearly through a spot in the middle of the lens roughly the size of your fingernail. Outside of that, everything is distorted and/ or blurry. You literally have to move your head from left to right and back to read the print on a page of newspaper. If your glasses slip down the bridge of your nose and the sweet spot is not in direct line with your pupil, you are screwed, big time. I just can't see how anyone can sit on a stand calling and keep their head still, hoping that a coyote appears right in line with the sweet spot because if it appears anyplace else, you'll never know it. I always get my glasses checked and replaced at this time of the year to give me ample time to get use to them before hunting season starts.
Got the regular lined lenses in yesterday and although I have to get used to the little reading lens part at the bottom (kinda like having rain water on the lower half of the lens), they are SO MUCH better already. For the past two weeks, my eyes have been so tired from fighting that last set of lenses that I literally couldn't read a stop sign from fifty feet.
If you use and like progressives, more power to you, you blind bastard!
Posted by RagnCajn (Member # 879) on September 09, 2009, 09:32 PM:
You have just made my day. I needed a laugh, thanks
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on September 09, 2009, 10:31 PM:
Progressives must be completely different in Kansas? They take no more getting "used to" than wearing a hat.
I don't understand the word progressive describing "bifocals" or that they are the size of a fingernail? Do you mean "blended bifocals"? Progressive trifocals take up a good portion of the lower part of the lens. Blended bifocals shouldn't be any smaller than old fashioned bifocals with visible lines?
You are psyching yourself out, Amigo.
Good hunting. LB
Posted by Cdog911 (Member # 7) on September 10, 2009, 05:15 AM:
That was the assumption that I made, too, Leonard, but such was not the case. I figured that there would be the one thickness of the lens at the bottom and it would simply transition to my prescription in the upper half (or so). Why would one change the side areas of the lens??? But, they do. At least, the lab my optometrist goes through does. I had an area roughly one half-inch diameter across right in front of where I look through the lens that was set to look at things beyond 24 inches. They actually had me hold my head still and the drew a small circle on the clear plastic fake lenses to show where I looked through the lenses at before sending them off to the lab. If you held your head still and looked to either side of that area, things were blurry and distorted. If you moved your head, everything swirled around like you were looking through a fish bowl. Now, the regular lined bifocals I have are just like they took my old script lenses and ground a small spot in the lower margins of each lens for reading things up close.
Progressive trifocals? Special place in hell for those, I imagine. I think, from the past two weeks' experience, a guy could do just as well and get the same effect from a quart of Jose Cuervo and a closed head injury.
I think the labs in CA must grind the lenses wrong. Better, but wrong.
[ September 10, 2009, 05:17 AM: Message edited by: Cdog911 ]
Posted by TheHuntedOne (Member # 623) on September 10, 2009, 06:48 AM:
I was given the same Progressive lens's when I got my glasses and I have the same problem of the near vision being just a small circle. I have to turn my head to read or see anything up close. I can't use them on the computer because I have to hold my head up, and I have read that they are not even recommended for computer use because of the neck strain they can cause.
They work pretty good in the woods though, as they really helped my far vision, and I can still see to read a map without having to change glasses. But I think when I get my new pair I am going to just opt for regular bifocals.
I carry good old reading glasses for the computer and other things up close.
Al
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on September 10, 2009, 10:31 AM:
Lance, I will tell you something I learned some years ago. I had a pair that the blended part kept interfering with my distance vision. So, I complained and they went through the calibrating all over again.
What I found out was, when ordered to look the fitting lady in the eye, I unnaturally dropped my head as I focused on her eyes. There was perhaps fifteen degrees in the tilt of my head, opposed to just casually swiveling my head to look at her as I might do without the stern admonition to "LOOK AT MY EYES". I'm telling you, there is a difference in your involuntary lowering of your head when you know some important calculation will be taking place.
Try it with your wife and she should be able to see if you hunch up and look like a rattler ready to strike, opposed to just casually swinging your head to catch her gaze.
All I'm saying is that it is extremely important to put that sharpie dot in exactly the right place when being fitted for progressive trifocals and not so much for plain vanilla bifocals.
I think it has to do with moving your eyes while holding your head stilll, versus tilting your head to find the proper focus point for the distance. That's the advantage, in a nut shell. I can focus with extreme clarity at any distance between 14" and 30" by slightly tilting my head. But, firstyou have to be sure the prescription is located in the optimum location.
That's the best I can do for ya. You are missing out on a lot if you don't find out what the problem is...but it, (the problem) is NOT with progressive lenses, which are a quantum leap over simple bifocals.
Good hunting. LB
Posted by Bob Mc (Member # 237) on September 10, 2009, 10:59 AM:
Well I bit the bullet and made an appointment to have my eyes checked in about a week and a half. I’ll go for the plain old garden variety bifocals. I hate the things, but if I’m doing any serious reading I use a separate pair of reading glasses.
Posted by Cdog911 (Member # 7) on September 10, 2009, 11:44 AM:
I understand exactly what you're saying, Leonard. When the lady is standing 12 inches from you, it's hard to get it exactly right, considering the small margin of error. Add to that the fact that my glasses are all over my face during the course of the day and I just plain need more to look through than that little keyhole. If I sat at a computer or worked inside where it was 72-obamadegrees, that would be one thing. But, I'm looking up and down, at the mail, at the stairs, up the street and in the heat and humidity, it's nice to have more of that lens at my disposal then what the progressive offered me. I've spoken with about 30 different bifocal wearers, thinking there was an easier way to wear those things. It's about half and half - half wore them and liked them, and half wore them and got tired of fighting them. Polycarbonate lenses are another thing I can't wear. I understand that they can be better then the plastic they make lenses out of, but they made me miserable. Felt like my eyes were being pulled right out of the socket while they tried to adjust to the lens. I guess about 30% of people are intolerant of them. That makes me a minority. What do I get for free?
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on September 10, 2009, 02:14 PM:
That's another thing. I fail to understand why a person can wear plastic and not polycarbonate? Acrylic shatters and cracks and poly is a little softer and less brittle but more resilient to impact, like from a BB.
Optically, I can't figure out why some people can't see through polycarbonate lenses without discomfort? I mean glass is glass, plastic is plastic, clear is clear. On edge, polycarbonate has a bluish tinge and acrylic does not. But, comparing prescrption to prescription, hi impact plastic is twice as thick for the same strength.
I hope you figure something out because your issues are (frankly) bewildering. I would talk to an optometrist directly, if I were you. Something's not right. Absolutely no disrespect intended, but I wouldn't go back to clunky plastic or heavy glass for all the tea in China, or even all of Dan's money.
Good hunting. LB
Posted by Cdog911 (Member # 7) on September 10, 2009, 06:08 PM:
No disrespect taken. I don't know what's bewildering about this. The staff and dr's even act like it's no big deal and not at all uncommon for a first-time bifocal wearer to make this change.
I don't know what the difference is between poly and plastic either, except that, as I understand it, the density of the material affords for a much lighter lens because the lens can be ground much thinner with poly. I do know that the feeling it gave was most uncomfortable and, again, was no surprise to them when I came back with them. No more unusual then the fact that some individuals cannot tolerate certain meds. Individualism. That's why they offer more than one option.
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on September 11, 2009, 02:03 PM:
I am just trying to tell you, as diplomatically as possible, that there is not much logic to your problem, and after that it becomes human error or mental. Using polycarbonate as a corrective lens material "should" have zero negative effect on the wearer, physically.
I think it is entirely possible that your prescription is at fault, (a delicate matter, to be sure) rather than the material it is made from. I am NOT convinced that some people, for unspecified reasons, simply cannot wear polycarbonate corrective lenses.
But, if you are content with what you have; I have to accept it, as well.
Good hunting. LB & peace bro
Posted by Cdog911 (Member # 7) on September 11, 2009, 02:39 PM:
Probably mental, all things considered, but I know what they told me and I know how they felt to me. Maybe I should have had a psych evaluation before changing the type of spectacles I wear.
One thing I did notice on the polys was that when they got dusty one day, there was a nickel to quarter sized area in the middle of the lens that showed up, apparently due to the way they were ground. I've never seen that with glass or plastic.
As far as what I have now, glad that you're concerned, but do get some sleep. I'll be fine.
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on September 11, 2009, 03:48 PM:
Yeah, I may well be anal about it, but you seem way too "mellow". I'd be asking questions until I got an answer other than; just because. Don't flame me bro!
Posted by Cdog911 (Member # 7) on September 11, 2009, 09:19 PM:
Not flaming, Leonard. Not even upset. I know good advice when I read it. Just that all this has been explained to me by the opto-lady already. Blonde, blue eyes, hair tied up in a bun, about 35-ish. Purty as she sounds to be. Lotsa state of the art tests they put you through. I'm normal; just a small group of normal. Not like this is the Kansas everyone thinks it is and we call the local horse doctor to come over from the Livery Stable to check our eyes or anything.
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on September 11, 2009, 09:26 PM:
I cannot tell you how reasuring it is to know that.....
Posted by sparkyibewlocal440 (Member # 397) on September 12, 2009, 09:49 AM:
I wore glasses and contacts for many years.Had Astigmatism pretty bad until 2 years ago when I did the Lasik. I really wish I did it sooner! No more screwing around with dirty lenses,frames sliding on my face,etc. And best of all, is the vision, just like being a kid again, just a tad better than 20-20. I had to do the renewal for my drivers license last week and could read the vision test at the back of the room while I was waiting in line, about 3 times the distance away from the actual test. Sure I have to use "cheaters" for reading etc. There is the option to do one eye for distance and the other for reading, but I couldn't do that..
And for hunting; looking through binoculars,no more smudges in the upper inside corner of my glasses when looking through my scopes,no more fogging when it cold,etc. etc., it just works. I can easily scan effectively at 300 yards when calling Coyotes. It's made my calling much more easier and effective.
There are big gains in contact lenses now a days for comfort and vision. You may need to try a few different brands before you nail it. They take a bit to get used too, but once you get a Prescription that's dialed in, your set.
Posted by Locohead (Member # 15) on September 12, 2009, 10:52 PM:
Leonard,
You're not gonna throw in the towel just yet are you? The "hick from the sticks", as good as admitted it was mental. Don't give up yet, you almost got 'im!
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on September 12, 2009, 11:48 PM:
Yeah, he's fakin' it all the way. I bet they don't even waste time shiping polycarb to Kansas anymore?
Good hunting. LB
don't EVEN make me tell ya why........
Posted by Cdog911 (Member # 7) on September 13, 2009, 10:26 AM:
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on September 13, 2009, 11:06 AM:
I'd call that a tapout, Danny? Yes?
Posted by Locohead (Member # 15) on September 13, 2009, 03:26 PM:
Wooo Hooo!
Posted by Cdog911 (Member # 7) on September 13, 2009, 07:03 PM:
I'm still here. Just can't spend a lot of time with this as I'm busy putting together two of those evil comp hunts this weekend. So Woo hoo this!
Posted by Locohead (Member # 15) on September 13, 2009, 10:03 PM:
WOOO HOOO! Sounds like fun.
Which hunts Lance, are you gonna posts pictures, write a story? When you're not so busy, fill us in, start a thread, write a story!
Posted by Cdog911 (Member # 7) on September 14, 2009, 07:01 PM:
Loco,
2 hunts, Kansas Predator Challenge, first hunt in Chanute, Kansas,(SE KS)January 8-10, second one in Ogden Kansas (NE KS) January 29-31. 100 team limit for each and we already have people siging up and the dates haven't been annouced (until now). 100% payout after expenses, Big dog, Li'l Dog, Big 'Cat, and Mangiest Coyote pots for $10 each. The Mangiest Coyote pot is new this year and will be judged based upon total % hairloss, with ties broken by the total number of missing and broken teeth, maimed or missing extremities, and then missing or injured eyes. If you shoot a totally bald, one nutted, three legged coyote with cataracts, you might win big! We figure this will be funner than 2-point tips.
Also, new this year is that we'll be paying out for total kills for each Saturday and Sunday, as well as overall. We figure that with this option, a team who has a bad day Saturday can still come to check in if they do well Sunday and maybe still be in the money.
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