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Tim Behle
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posted July 15, 2009 12:25 PM
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Kelly Jackson
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posted July 15, 2009 12:29 PM
looks like a frog with a snake up its ass.
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Leonard
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posted July 15, 2009 12:44 PM
Ya got me?
Looks kinda like a gopher snake with a road killed desert toad on his head?
So, whazzit?
Good hunting. LB
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Bob Mc
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posted July 15, 2009 12:55 PM
If you're asking what kind of a snake it is, around here I'd call it a gopher snake. Some people call them bull snakes. Looks like it didn't get its head out of the way of a pickup soon enough.
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Jrbhunter
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posted July 15, 2009 01:13 PM
He appears to be O'pressed.
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Rich
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posted July 15, 2009 06:29 PM
It appears to be a bull snake trying to swallow a frog, but only has it caught by left rear leg right now.
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Dusty Hunter
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posted July 15, 2009 07:38 PM
It looks to me like a Gopher snake trying to eat a Great Plains Toad.
The toad seems to be in puff up mode to save its life. It looks like the snake has already tried to swallow it from the toad's head. That's my guess.
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Tim Behle
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posted July 16, 2009 06:53 AM
I was thinking that it was a gopher snake too. He's been living out in the barn the last few weeks.
The toad got away about 20 minutes after I took the picture, but I found one laying dead, about the same size a couple of days later just a few feet away, outside the barn.
Those Gopher snakes don't have any kind of poison in them, do they?
I was working on a broken board under the back deck yesterday morning, and the snake came to visit me while under there. He followed the air hose from the barn, to the nail gun I was working with. He checked me out for a few minutes, then moved off under the steps.
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Kokopelli
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posted July 16, 2009 08:22 AM
Snake......???????
I thought that it was a microscopic view of one of Henry Waxman's deformed sperm cells dead in Bab's Boxer's sterile womb.
I could be wrong though........
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Az-Hunter
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posted July 16, 2009 08:46 AM
Thats a western hognosed snake, Ive seen that scene a few times here in southern Arizona, although that particular one picked a toad to big to swallow.
Wished I had a camera handy last night, we watched a Colorado river toad bounce up to a nedium sized western toad, and eat that sonofabitch. Colorado river toads are the largest of the toad species here in Arizona, and quite toxic to dogs or anything else that puts a mouth on them.
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Dusty Hunter
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posted July 16, 2009 08:51 AM
Gopher snakes are non venomous. They will try to scare us by hissing and shaking its tail. Some people make pets out of the young. The older ones can give a painful bite when defending themselves. I believe they are good to have around but thats my opinion. One must be sure it actually is a Gopher snake though. we have some big ones in the area.
I don't know anything about a western hognosed snake.
Here is a good place to help identify snakes.
www.reptilesofaz.org/herp-snakes.html
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Leonard
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posted July 16, 2009 09:41 AM
I'm not sure, at all what it is, but I have learned to not doubt what Vic says.
In any case, I found an interesting description:
"Hognose snakes are rear fanged. These fangs are described as being used for the "popping" of toads that are swollen with air (a defensive adaptation of toads and some frogs which is meant to make them look bigger and to make them harder to swallow) similar to popping a balloon with a needle. However, western hognose snakes have been shown to produce mild venom, which seems to be specific to amphibians. A few people have reported mild pain and swelling as a result of being bitten by these snakes,"
Good hunting. LB
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onecoyote
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posted July 16, 2009 10:06 AM
That snake died from a bad case of the bullheaded clap.
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Rich
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posted July 16, 2009 12:57 PM
Back in the 1940,s when I lived south of Springview, NE, my sister and I came upon one of those snakes that had a rather large lump in the middle. The snake didn't have rattles, and wasn't a blue racer or gardner snake, so we just called it a bull snake. Anyway we killed the bugger, cut it open and a toad hopped out.
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Leonard
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posted July 16, 2009 08:43 PM
Just talked to AZ. He says that he has seen quite a few of these snakes, and doing the same thing, only maybe not as big a toad? Interesting?
As far as common snakes, I see more rattlers than anything. Western Diamondbacks, for the most part, and the Pacific rattler. Besides that I see the black boas once in a while, and around here, king snakes are fairly common.
But, that's about it, I hardly ever see some of these exotics, corn snakes, hog nosed, even garter snakes, don't see them? We have a snake that looks like a garter snake in the local mountains but they are big, like five footers.
That's it from sector #3 LB
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Locohead
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posted July 17, 2009 12:28 AM
WOW! I could of swore on first look that it was a bull-snake because of the pattern on his back. It looks almost exactly like any other bull-snake I've ever seen except for the cool black spots on either side of the brown spots running down the middle of his back. 3 things scream Hog-nose to me though, virtually no neck (bull-snakes have a neck, hog noses remind me a typical no-necked Guido type fellow), that pattern on his neck behind his eyes, and his food selection - his favorite munchie...TOAD!!!
I personally have been looking for one of those critters for years now. I know NASA caught one here in Colorado once. One year while looking for snakes with T-squared, he found a 3 inch, thick as a spaghetti noodle, itty bitty little black head snake. When it flicked it's tongue, it was see thru black it was so tiny.
Anyway, if you see one again Tim, try to pick it up (if you don't dig picking up snakes, put on a leather glove, it will give you confidence and the snake can't bite through it), it just might flop on it's back, let it's tongue dangle out, and play dead. NO Kidding, they really do do that. fer real fer real!!! ![[Smile]](smile.gif)
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Tim Behle
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posted July 17, 2009 08:56 AM
Danny, I threw him under the house in the crawl space. Hopefully he will make a few nice dinners out of the kangaroo rats that like to chew threw my phone lines!
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Kokopelli
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posted July 17, 2009 01:19 PM
Crikey!!!!
I was just now looking thru my spanking new (to me) copy of "A Field Guide To Amphibians & Reptiles In Arizona" published by the Az. Game & Fish Dept.
Loco; you could go sane down here. We have a TON of different kinds of snakes in this state. I've got a Common Kingsnake living out in the Man-Cave, but according to this, there is also the Western Black Kingsnake, the Desert Kingsnake and the Sonoran Mountain Kingsnake which is beyond cool!!!!
We have Rattlers too........... 18 different kinds. Gawd, I love this place!!!
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Locohead
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posted July 17, 2009 07:22 PM
I would love it too! I do have a little guy, 11 years, that perfectly fits that description, "Ignorance is Bliss". I am always telling him, "Don't climb so high", "Be careful", there are rattle-snakes here, stay out of all that thick stuff". Living in Arizona would horrify me. I love small critters of the cold-blooded flavor but the wild boy of mine is very allergic to lots of stuff. One hit from one of those aggressive little green snakes ya'll have down south and I might die of freak out!!!
I am not overly protective, they go snake hunting with me often, but the more I fool around with rattle snakes, the more I get afraid of letting the kids run around.
Ignorance is bliss I tell you.
If I lived in AZ, I would build a couple of out door cages for horny toads though, I love those critters but you just never see them around here anymore.
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Dusty Hunter
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posted July 17, 2009 09:20 PM
Looking at the head of a Western Hog Nosed snake they don't look at all like a gopher snake. Reading this article, some people have them as pets also. I can't imagine having a snake for a pet. Loco, we have plenty of Horny Toads around here, I like to see them also. Oh! by the way, I like these "What is it posts", we all get to learn
http://www.petco.com/caresheets/snakes/Snake_WesternHognose.pdf
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