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Topic: I'm surounded by viscious coyotes!
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Leonard
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posted May 07, 2008 07:06 PM
LAKE ARROWHEAD, Calif. — A coyote grabbed a 2-year-old girl by the head and tried to drag her from the front yard of her mountain home in the third incident of a coyote threatening a small child in Southern California in five days, authorities said.
The coyote attacked the girl around noon Tuesday when her mother, Melissa Rowley, went inside the home for a moment to put away a camera, the San Bernardino County Sheriff's Department said in an incident report.
Rowley came out of the house and saw the coyote dragging her daughter towards a street. She ran towards her daughter, and the animal released the girl and ran away, said sheriff's spokeswoman Arden Wiltshire.
Rowley took her daughter to a hospital where the toddler was treated for several punctures to the head and neck area, and a laceration on her mouth. She was then flown to Loma Linda University Hospital for further treatment, although her injuries were not life-threatening.
State Fish and Game wardens and county animal control authorities set traps for the coyote and were monitoring the neighborhood high in the San Bernardino Mountains about 65 miles miles northeast of Los Angeles.
On Friday, a nanny pulled a 2-year-old girl from the jaws of a coyote at Alterra Park in Chino Hills, a San Bernardino County community about 30 miles east of Los Angeles. The girl suffered puncture wounds to her buttocks and was treated at a hospital.
A coyote came after another toddler in the same park Sunday. The child's father kicked and chased the coyote away.
Alterra Park is near Chino Hills State Park, a natural open space of thousands of acres spanning nearly 31 miles.
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Paul Melching
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posted May 08, 2008 04:51 AM
Leonard looks like you need to get busy they do have you surrounded.How about one of those high powered pellet rifles and a spot light?
On a more serious note It sounds like the peta folks should go out and reason with those pesky critters.Surely they can do something with this situation they know so much about the animals or a little help from the folks at Disney.Iknow that they can talk to the animals as they say I SEEN it on TV. Since you cant conrtol animals in Kalifornia maybe kids and small adults should be kept in doors. Yeah! thats it lock up the people.What do they have to go out for anyway. ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif)
When are people going to wake up!
[ May 08, 2008, 04:53 AM: Message edited by: Paul Melching ]
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Rich Higgins
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posted May 08, 2008 07:00 AM
Only in California have the coyotes gone yuppie.
Two year old girls are the new sushi.
Very sophisticated palates. ![[Smile]](smile.gif)
(sorry Leonard)
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Leonard
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posted May 08, 2008 09:17 AM
Well, that's exactly the brilliant reasoning they used down on Ortega Highway at Casper's Regional Park after a lion attacked and blinded a five year old. Children are not allowed in the park!
Good hunting. LB
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skoal
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posted May 08, 2008 10:57 AM
Going out of doors is over rated cant we all just play video games instead. I think I'm gonna be sick!
Hey Leonard can you get us a puking emoticon?
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Leonard
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posted May 08, 2008 11:30 AM
Come on! There are plenty of "predator" sites where you can play with puking emoticons and just about anything you can imagine.  That's if your verbal skills are not developed above 6th grade levels. Ah yes, the educational level you youungsters have acquired; I get it. High school graduate; the "new" sixth grade education! There are no wrong answers, etc.
I'll look into it.
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skoal
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posted May 08, 2008 12:31 PM
Sister Mary gawdamit at our Lady of eternal agony school , made sure I could spell prior to me being cast into the public school system.
I left Catholic schools in the sixth grade and didnt have to crack a book until I was a sophomore in high school in our fine public schools. But I still cant type!
edited : for spelling,punctuation and grammar
[ May 08, 2008, 12:33 PM: Message edited by: skoal ]
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Rich Higgins
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posted May 08, 2008 01:20 PM
Do I have this right, Leonard? A child was attacked by a lion in a park, so the authorities banned children from the park?
You have to admit, that is an effective solution.
How about the little girls that were attacked by coyotes? They cannot be banned from their own backyards, I assume? Perhaps cage trapping the coyotes, providing extensive behavioral counseling and then repatriating them will resolve the problem to everyone's satisfaction.
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Leonard
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posted May 08, 2008 02:00 PM
I am surprised , Higgins. Yes, you do have it right.
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posted May 08, 2008 02:16 PM
Casper's Regional Park is not a "traditional" park. It's a "Wilderness Park". That means no big green expanses of mowed grass, volly ball courts, BBQ pits, etc. Instead, low foothills with heavy manzanita, chapparal, sage and wild oaks. Dirt footpaths wind for miles thru the canyon. It's designed for the Capistrano yuppie hikers so they can "commune" with nature.
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skoal
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posted May 08, 2008 02:16 PM
Rich it is California they could ban the children from their own back yards it would be for their own good. After the behavioral counseling where would they repatriate the childen to.
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posted May 09, 2008 06:27 PM
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After the behavioral counseling where would they repatriate the childen to.
Why, to South-Central, of course. The only wild animals there there listen to rap music at full volume. ![[Roll Eyes]](rolleyes.gif)
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Dan Carey
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posted May 09, 2008 09:09 PM
"The only wild animals there there listen to rap music at full volume."
Way to go Tom, you silver tongue devil.
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Leonard
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posted May 09, 2008 11:22 PM
Yeah, at least he didn't say "monkey" or something equally offensive!
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posted May 10, 2008 03:24 AM
You're not expecting me to manifest an air of political correctness, are you? ![[Razz]](tongue.gif)
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TRnCO
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posted May 10, 2008 06:57 AM
It certainly doesn't surprise me that Cali. closed a park after a lion attack. Hell, Boulder, CO. closed a ball field down because thier fences didn't keep the prairie dogs out.
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Rich
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posted May 10, 2008 10:37 AM
I believe that we can thank the bunny huggers, animal rights cults, and anti-gun nuts for causing those coyotes to attack small children. The coyotes have lost their fear of humans because they never get shot at or trapped by humans in that area. Coyote pups are likely starting to eat meat now, and their parents are only bringing meat home for their young.
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Cdog911
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posted May 10, 2008 10:44 AM
I'll take that point one step further by saying that because of urban sprawl, a lot of the coyote's homerange has been encroached upon. As we all are well aware, the coyote is the consummate expert at adapting and exploiting whatever circumstance throws their way, and it's most likely that these animals are not afraid of human presence because they've been whelped, reared, and lived their entire lives interacting with people. They know nothing else, and their reaction to humans around them is no different than how a coyote here acts and reacts to cattle or deer. In most cases, they'll just co-exist. But, if times are tough and an opportunity presents itself, time to belly up to the buffet. As is the case in all instances like this around here, two things need to happen. The offending coyote(s) need to be removed, and the opportunity needs to be eliminated so the next coyote along doesn't see the same situation prompting a return of the same ol' problem. How they'll manage to do that is anyone's guess.
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Leonard
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posted May 10, 2008 11:50 AM
Good contributions, all. However, the encroachment spin doesn't work here. These coyotes have been living in urban areas for many years, humans are not invading their habitat.
I'm going to take a photo of my back yard as soon as I post this and show you folks where I had a coyote, and I have been here over 32 years. Might seem remarkable to some people in the country.
Good hunting. LB
edit: now, imagine a coyote trotting along the top of that wall, just like a cat. It happened! Encroachment? I think not! 
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Cdog911
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posted May 10, 2008 02:22 PM
I guess my point was lost in translation. At some point back in "the day", you didn't live there. Nor did anyone else. But, there were coyotes. Maybe the encroachment wasn't so much by you, but it was by someone. My point was that the resident coyotes faced a decision: stay and adapt or vacate. They chose to stay. My second point was that those coyotes involved in the attacks, as well as the one that tightroped your back wall, aren't wild in the conventional sense of wide open spaces, yippy ki-yi-yo and never having seen or smelled a human before. Your coyotes have likely been whelped there, heard human voices from the first day they could hear, saw people from the first time they could see, smelled humans in every respect from the first time they left the den and, in their lives, have grown to regard people as just another feature of their habitat. Doesn't make them any less a coyote then the ones I have up in the pasturelands or that someone calls on the high plains of Alberta. Like coyotes are so good at doing, yours have adapted and persevered in the environs they were born into.
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Paul Melching
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posted May 10, 2008 05:59 PM
Leonard
Speaking of urban coyotes,one night late after leaving a hockey game when our Phx. Coyotes played in Phx.,I was crossing the street to retrieve my car and saw a coyote at third and washington downtown .
He did not attack but rather ignored me.
I think the lack of trapping ect.in urban and suburban areas They just have no negative experience to relate to humans.
we are eating up huge areas of the desert in az. Im really surprised we dont have more of the same out here.possibly in time we will.
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Rich
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posted May 10, 2008 07:14 PM
I am still wondering if Leonard's coyote left a "scat mark" on that stone wall. Did you check that out Leonard?
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posted May 10, 2008 07:28 PM
Nice pond Leonard! How is the duck hunting?
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posted May 10, 2008 07:50 PM
Skoal,
Here's some puking smilies. ![[Wink]](wink.gif)
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posted May 11, 2008 05:47 PM
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,354988,00.html
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