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Cdog911
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Icon 1 posted February 25, 2008 07:11 PM      Profile for Cdog911   Author's Homepage   Email Cdog911         Edit/Delete Post 
Seems like everywhere I turn, somebody is just getting, in the middle of, or finally beginning to recover from the flu - the full blown upper respiratory, fever, body aches, this-shit-can-kill-you flu. As offered in the past, I have something that will kick its butt in no time and get you back on your feet.

Elderberry extract.

When it comes to folk remedies, I'm the biggest skeptic there is, but when a local doctor began having her patients use this stuff to control seasonal allergies, and one of those patients told me to try it and I did, it very quickly got my attention.

A year ago, at about this time, the cedar trees began pollinating and I was BAD with allergies - eyes swollen shut, wheezing, hives. I was miserable. I as talking zyrtek, flonase, loratadine and staying indoors with air cleaners going full bore with no relief. Within two days of taking the elderberry, I was symptom free and using just the flonase. I've since used nothing but elderberry and only up the dose on days when I begin sneezing.

The best thing about this stuff is that it has some pretty damned impressive antiviral properties that they're just now testing. But, I've seen accounts where it has reduced flu symptoms to an average of <2 days, has been used to treat herpes, is being tested as an AIDS treatment and is being used to treat West Nile Virus in horses. A component in the extract inhibits the ability of viruses to infect prospective host cells.

Where I work, we had three letter carriers present with flu symptoms last Wednesday. I told all three to begin taking this stuff. Two began taking the prescription stuff that costs an arm and a leg. The third bought a bottle of extract. As of this morning, he's doing the best of all three, says he feels great, and has just a little bit of a cough.

I've been taking a maintenance dose of the stuff all winter and have gone the entire season without a cold, the flu, anything at all.

Just a suggestion to those who don't like taking drugs... this is a remedy that was first found by the Plains ******* and has been used for centuries to treat colds, flu, sinus infections, constipation, hypertension and allergies. Buy the concentrated stuff and use it according to the instructions. I get mine at a health food store and they told me the opther day that they can't keep it on the shelf this year. No side effects or bad interactions, so it's pretty safe stuff. Hope this helps if you're hurting.

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Dusty Hunter
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Icon 1 posted February 25, 2008 07:59 PM      Profile for Dusty Hunter           Edit/Delete Post 
Cdog911, Thanks for the info. I hadn't experienced allergies for about 20 years. Then last year the pollen count went from about 300 particles to about 5,000 particles per cubic meter. I went through about the same thing you went through. I'm going to try to locate some of that elderberry extract this week and be prepared.
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Icon 1 posted February 25, 2008 09:19 PM      Profile for Locohead   Email Locohead         Edit/Delete Post 
ME too!!! Thanks for the info. Lance. I'll give it try for my allergies too. Hayfever sucks...(fill in the blank). [Smile]

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Cdog911
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Icon 1 posted February 26, 2008 04:59 AM      Profile for Cdog911   Author's Homepage   Email Cdog911         Edit/Delete Post 
Found this piece at WebMD on the stuff, FWIW.

http://www.webmd.com/cold-and-flu/news/20031222/elderberry-fights-flu-symptoms

Between the real flu and stomach flu, I think I'm the only one I know that hasn't been down with something around here. (knock on wood)

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Icon 14 posted February 26, 2008 07:00 AM      Profile for newbomb   Email newbomb         Edit/Delete Post 
Can I just drink Elderberry wine?Plenty of that stuff around here. [Big Grin]
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[ February 26, 2008, 07:01 AM: Message edited by: newbomb ]

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RagnCajn
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Icon 1 posted February 26, 2008 10:00 AM      Profile for RagnCajn   Email RagnCajn         Edit/Delete Post 
Thanks Lance, I may give it a try. Thanks for giving credit and reference as to where you got the remedy from, for without that I am sure the whole read would have been a worthless bit of time and effort.

Edited due to my lack of typing skills

[ February 26, 2008, 10:01 AM: Message edited by: RagnCajn ]

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Leonard
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Icon 1 posted February 26, 2008 10:13 AM      Profile for Leonard   Author's Homepage   Email Leonard         Edit/Delete Post 
Now, that's funny!

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RagnCajn
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Icon 1 posted February 26, 2008 10:35 AM      Profile for RagnCajn   Email RagnCajn         Edit/Delete Post 
Thanks Leonard, but I am really not looking forward to the 5 pages of stats and figures as to why it does not work in other climates and conditions
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Icon 1 posted February 26, 2008 10:46 AM      Profile for skoal           Edit/Delete Post 
Randy I understand it only works on the Eastern sub spiecies,and has not yet been proven in the west.
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Leonard
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Icon 1 posted February 26, 2008 10:55 AM      Profile for Leonard   Author's Homepage   Email Leonard         Edit/Delete Post 
...besides, we don't get sick, out here. Shut up and drink your Nona.

edit: so far! One thing about SH, he generates a lot of ink.

[ February 26, 2008, 10:56 AM: Message edited by: Leonard ]

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Icon 1 posted February 26, 2008 10:55 AM      Profile for NASA           Edit/Delete Post 
Lance, I read up on it like you suggested. It seems to have other properties beyond the anti-viral ones.

I hit Vitamin Cottage at lunch time and they had 8 oz. bottles of extract on sale for $16. My backwoods Arky sis swears by Elderberry, so I'll give it a shot.

Thanks for passing this on. [Wink]

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Cdog911
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Icon 1 posted February 26, 2008 12:49 PM      Profile for Cdog911   Author's Homepage   Email Cdog911         Edit/Delete Post 
That's a pretty good price, Tom, and when compared against the Rx's from the doc, a good buy all around. Hope it works for you. But, be forewarned, I don't think it counteracts gravity, so be careful not to fall again.

Randy, no problem. I figured I'd better include some citations as those are pretty bold claims for me to make all by myslef here. [Wink] By the way, if it works for you, the elderberry gets the credit. I had nothing to do with that either.

[ February 26, 2008, 12:50 PM: Message edited by: Cdog911 ]

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Tim Behle
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Icon 1 posted February 26, 2008 06:54 PM      Profile for Tim Behle   Author's Homepage   Email Tim Behle         Edit/Delete Post 
I just bought a new bottle the other day. 100 575mg capsules for $11.39. Don't know if it works, but I sure don't think it can hurt. I take one capsule morning and night.

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Cdog911
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Icon 1 posted February 26, 2008 08:02 PM      Profile for Cdog911   Author's Homepage   Email Cdog911         Edit/Delete Post 
Tim,

What I buy is liquid. You say you're getting it in capsule form? What specific ingredient is in the capsule? Sounds like a great deal if it's the same thing.

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Leonard
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Icon 1 posted February 26, 2008 08:11 PM      Profile for Leonard   Author's Homepage   Email Leonard         Edit/Delete Post 
He probaly got it from some guy named Pedro on the other side? The binder is probably draino?

[ February 26, 2008, 08:12 PM: Message edited by: Leonard ]

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Icon 1 posted February 26, 2008 09:22 PM      Profile for TA17Rem   Email TA17Rem         Edit/Delete Post 
Lance you got a lic. to practice medicine? [Big Grin]

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Tim Behle
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Icon 1 posted February 27, 2008 03:56 AM      Profile for Tim Behle   Author's Homepage   Email Tim Behle         Edit/Delete Post 
Lance,

Each capsule is 460mg of Sambucos nigra (berry) and 115 mg Sambucos nigra (flower) And it is bottled by Solaray.

Don't worry Leonard, the guy I get it from is names Jesus, he has a store on this side and even speaks good English!

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Icon 1 posted February 27, 2008 07:29 AM      Profile for Brad Norman   Email Brad Norman         Edit/Delete Post 
I bought a bottle yesterday. After reading the Journal of Medicine I came to the conclusion that only Elderberry Extract works? Anyway, that's what I bought.

It taste like Port to me....one of my favorite drinks.

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Leonard
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Icon 1 posted February 27, 2008 08:22 AM      Profile for Leonard   Author's Homepage   Email Leonard         Edit/Delete Post 
Hey, you're okay for an Okie! (loved the movie)I'm mostly indifferent about wine, but Port is yummy.

Good hunting. LB

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Brad Norman
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Icon 1 posted February 27, 2008 08:23 AM      Profile for Brad Norman   Email Brad Norman         Edit/Delete Post 
I do believe that is the nicest thing you've ever said to me.
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Leonard
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Icon 1 posted February 27, 2008 08:33 AM      Profile for Leonard   Author's Homepage   Email Leonard         Edit/Delete Post 
Me? What I do? It's your buddy Cal that is always ragging on you!

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Icon 1 posted February 27, 2008 08:39 AM      Profile for CindyTraps   Email CindyTraps         Edit/Delete Post 
Interesting, I have never heard this before and i am right there with you on the symptons when the junipers start busting here, it is gonna be bad this year all the much needed moisture we had, the trees are already turning brown just a matter of a few warm days, I am going to town tomorrrow if this works you are my hero, more to come, thanks [Smile]

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Cdog911
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Icon 1 posted February 27, 2008 12:07 PM      Profile for Cdog911   Author's Homepage   Email Cdog911         Edit/Delete Post 
"Lance you got a lic. to practice medicine"

I used to, but only after you got REALLY bad!

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Cdog911
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Icon 1 posted February 28, 2008 07:32 PM      Profile for Cdog911   Author's Homepage   Email Cdog911         Edit/Delete Post 
Cindy, I just checked our pollen fore ast fiuguring we were due for cedars to be cranking up and they already are. At the levels we had today, I'm usually taking four different drugs to just knock the edge off the watering eyes and sneezing, but I haven't had so much as a tickle yet. So far, this stuff is a miracle. Saturday, the levels are forecast to be nearly twice as high as they are now, so I guess I'll know for sure then....

Hope it works as well for you, if you can find it up there.

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