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Topic: Muzzleloading for coyotes this year
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The Outdoor Tripp
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posted October 29, 2006 06:19 PM
The last two weekends I've spent a good amount of time dialing in my TC Black Diamond. With 100 grains of pyrodex and 250 grain Shock Waves I'm getting 3" groups at 50 yards with open sights. Not driving tacks, but it is what it is.
The goal this year is to take at least one coyote with the smokepole. I've tried before but haven't been too serious about it in the past.
I'm pretty confident I can take a couple this year, but seriously doubt I'll be taking any doubles. ![[Smile]](smile.gif)
I'll keep you posted on how things go.
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Jrbhunter
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posted October 29, 2006 09:13 PM
Any reason for not having a scope? I use a similar load in a Knight Inline and have 3" groups at 200 yards. I shoot a couple coyotes and fox each year with the smokepole, carry quickloads and play the wind- doubles aren't impossible. ![[Wink]](wink.gif)
PS: Prepare the sewing kit.
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Tim Behle
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posted October 29, 2006 09:30 PM
I've not used one for calling in a few years, but had a blast when I did.
Best advise I can give you is to stick to daytime calling. It's too easy to loose all points of reference at night while waiting for the smoke to clear.
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The Outdoor Tripp
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posted October 30, 2006 05:45 PM
Jrb,
Want to keep the smokepole as basic as possible. Not really looking to put a scope on it, and have very reliable scoped 22-250's and a .270 for the tight groups at 200 yards.
Just looking for the accomplishment and fun of hunting with black powder and open sights. I certainly do want to tighten things up a bit. I'm going to shoot some heavier weight bullets and see if that does the trick, or possibly vary the load a few grains either side of 100.
Most of my coyote shots are within 50 yards so even if I don't dial in much further, fur should fly with the 3" groups at 50 yards I'm getting now.
I did just find a great deal on TC Omega and I've got an EER 2-7x Leupy to top it with so I may end up with a black powder tack driver soon enough, but I may wait to break it out next season.
Happy hunting.
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keekee
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posted October 30, 2006 11:12 PM
Try a 240 gr XTP and 90 grains of powder. Very good load and shoots out of about any black powder gun. Very good groups out to 100 plus yards.
And the fur damage isnt that bad either.
Brent
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JoeF
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posted October 31, 2006 02:52 AM
I'm going to be a bit of a stick-in-the-mud practical sort here, but I don't have money to piss away...
If you want to go BP and coyotes are the game there is absolutely no reason to shoot anything but round ball. With most/any of the "premium" bullets and in-lines you will be spending as much per shot as commercial centerfire rounds with less accuracy than you'll get with a traditional rifle and roundballs.
The inlines come in to being when you choose deer sized game and shoot at and beyond 100 yards.
I'm fond of the BP rifles and shoot:
Thompson Cherokee 32 cal. This rifle would stand up to any modern fifle with relatively crude open sights at ranges <= 100yards. Roundball only. Small game and coyotes beware, I'll blow yer f'ing head off..
Lyman Trade Rifle 50 Cal. 1 in 48 twist. As above except add sabotted pistol bullets for deer. Shoots roundballs better than any inline load I've ever seen.
Thompson Black Diamond, 1 in 28?. Shoots the bullets and loads that kill on both ends of the rifle. Not nearly as accurate; scoped, or not, with any load as the two rifles listed above. It does have merit as a deer rifle because of the modern loads that extend the range beyond 100 yards for deer sized game. Still shoots roundballs in to coyote sized groups at reasonable ranges.
P.S. KeeKee's load is as good as it gets for deer sized game. IMHO, or whatever the acronym is...
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