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Barndog
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posted October 11, 2006 04:37 PM
I work alone most of the summer in the desert. So I don't post much. Earlier this summer I was trainning a kid from Vegas. His second week on the job we were looking for an old soil type location that was sampled in the 50's near Pioche NV. They sampled the soils with a backhoe then so I told him to look for a grown over pile of rocks. I went north of the highway and he heads south of the highway finds a pile of rocks and then a car with a pair of shoes on the top near the drivers door with the door open. Thinking this was odd he wonders over to find a dead person laying next to the car. Instead of just telling me he's found a dead guy he yells "come look at this". I'm thinking he found the location. I wish I'd never seen it. Very disgusting. But here it is.
The man had been dead for a while, I'm thinking a couple of months, his skin had dried out and turned black, his clothes also turned black from his fluids leaking out of his pores. Coyotes had removed his internals so there was not much of a smell, but the smell that was there was very off. Some critter had also removed the flesh and meat of his right foot to about the heal leaving all the bones intact including his toe bones. Apparently humans do not taste good because that was all that was missing.
We gave our stories to the police. In the local paper a week later an article reported of a man that was found dead and that the sherriff's office suspected heart attack.
Why the foot? This questions has haunted me all summer.
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Leonard
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posted October 11, 2006 05:26 PM
You know, I spend so much time out in the boonies, I have wondered why I never found a body? I know Pioche, been through there and hunted around there many times. I remember once, we needed gas real bad, but it was late. The sheriff cruised by and we told him that we didn't have enough gas to make it and were waiting until morning when the station opened up. He said he would go get the owner if we would take a fillup, and we did. Another car pulled in right behind us, so maybe it was worth while for him, but we sure appreciated the favor.
Good hunting. LB
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Tim Behle
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posted October 11, 2006 05:26 PM
That will be a smell that you will never get out of your mind.
I found another one a few months back while investigating an electric meter for low consumption.
The meter checked out good, but the odor coming from the house told me why the old man wasn't using much electricity.
I called the cops and let them open the doors after I left.
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Cdog911
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posted October 11, 2006 05:44 PM
I've been on the clean up end of a lot of deaths, intentional and otherwise, but the one that bummed me most was my first year as a letter carrier. There was this old boy - really nice old man - that lived alone and was wheelchair bound on one of the five routes I subbed on. On this particular day, I approached the house and saw what looked like outgoing mail clipped to the mailbox. I opened it to see what it was and it was intended for the regular carrier with whom the old man was good friends. In his letter, he told the regular guy that by the time he got this, he would be gone. To call the authorites and his brother, and included the name and number. Then he thanked him for being such a good friend. I called 911 and PD and SO units responded with FD. They had to force entry into the locked house and found him in the dining room where he'd tied a plastic bag over his head, then handcuffed himself to the handrails on his wheelchair without a key. You got to really want to go to go that way.
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The Outdoor Tripp
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posted October 11, 2006 05:48 PM
You're sure right about never getting that smell out of your mind...
Back in the late 70's, my dad was the Hospital Administrator for the Dover Air Force Base Hospital. Also on the base was the largest morgue in the eastern U.S. which was built to handle Vietnam casualties in the 60's.
Anyhow, lucky Dad. Both the Tenerife air disaster (where the two 747's collided in the Canary Islands killing 550+) and the Jim Jones Guayanese Kool-Aid Deathfest took place while we lived in Dover and Dad was in charge of the operations to identify the dead bodies in both.
Dad said the Tenerife job was not that bad. Most of the bodies were charred pretty thoroughly and were recovered quickly and chilled so they didn't smell much at all.
The Kool-Aid kids were another story. They lay in the humid 95 degree jungle for maybe a week rotting and becoming maggot infested. When they were evac'd to be processed at DAFBHS they were simply stuffed in body bags half liquified.
When they arrived at DAFBHS the bodies smelled beyond belief. When bags were opened and bodies taken out, arms fell off, legs fell off, etc.
Simply horrific and it strongly moved and affected my Dad. I think there were close to 700 or 800 bodies in all. The worst Dad says were opening bags to find kids and infants.
The bags were shipped to Dover and stored at Dover in airtight aluminum coffin-like containers. Airtight my butt. I played on the air base high school golf team and we practiced each day about 1/4 mile downwind from the morgue.
Damned if we couldn't smell those bodies as if we were in the damned morgue ourselves. When the wind was very light and coming at us the smell literally made you gag and gave you the dry heaves. A few kids on the team lost their lunch a couple times.
When Dad came home from work each night he was distraught and quiet. The worst thing I remember was how his uniform/clothes smelled like the rotting bodies.
Dad and several others received commendations/medals for their work, but I doubt it made it at all worthwhile. Dad worked in hospitals for years, and encountered hundreds of corpses in his time but says nothing he could have ever dreamed of could have come close to the Guyanese situation. It's something Dad doesn't talk about to this day unless he's really pressed on it, and even then he doesn't say much.
I'll never forget that smell.
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Leonard
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posted October 11, 2006 07:46 PM
Trip, there is a special on the National Geographic channel tonight about the Jonestown deal.
Good hunting. LB
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Andy L
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posted October 11, 2006 08:15 PM
I was a volunteer fireman during and after highschool for a while. I worked several accidents as well as fires. One I will never forget. It was a girl in my class, brother and his buddy. They hit a bridge and the car caught fire and burned to death. I was one of the lucky two to drag them out. I will never forget the smell of the burning flesh. Awful. Their skin was slipping and peeling off when I would try to get enough of a hold to pull them out. I had to trade my gear in due to the smell. It would not come out.
I was 17 at the time and I can still see and smell that scene anytime I get to thinking about it.
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Cdog911
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posted October 11, 2006 08:21 PM
Been there, done that. You're right. It's a unique smell, like marijuana, that you never forget.
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posted October 11, 2006 08:52 PM
I can say from just after that stage in my life, the experience with the smell of marijuna was much more pleasant.... ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif)
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onecoyote
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posted October 12, 2006 11:59 AM
Barndog, I know the feeling, I found a body in the desert out by Victorville Ca. a few years ago. Not a good feeling at all.
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Barndog
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posted October 16, 2006 06:31 AM
Not to pleasent, I'm just glad I didn't have to clean it up.
About 8 years ago a very good friend who is a fish cop was patroling west of Cedar City in the hills called Three Peaks. The ground had a few inches of fresh snow. He saw some fresh tire marks and followed them, the tracks stopped and there was a lot of blood in the snow and foot prints into the brush. He followed the prints and found a dead but still bleeding woman full of bullet holes. He said he had never been so scared. There were a lot of unknowns that spoked him. Where the killers still there, did they see him, was he next?
I'm just glad this guy was really crispy. Diddo on the smell.
One of the BLM range cons found a dead one just months before us, this guy was nude and had a bullet hole square between his eyes. Then there was the rancher who heard a loud thump in the night only to find a body that had been dropped from the sky. What happens in Vegas stays in Vegas, until they decided to remove your body.
Yep, the Nevada desert holds some very intersting things from dead people, Land Art (that was wierd), Air Force having fun (I wonder how many times my truck has been shot on video), lightning storms, and flash floods. Then there was the night Butch and I ran across the Ice Cream truck upside down with Fat Boys all over the place (thousands of them), and we didn't even get one.
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The Outdoor Tripp
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posted October 16, 2006 06:21 PM
Following this thread I've begun to wonder why I haven't found anything ghastly in nearly 40 years of knocking around the outdoors.
Spent a great deal of time on remote lands, ranches, wilderness, etc., and have never run across a dead human body. What I've found has been pretty tame.
Years ago I found a nickel plated semi-auto pistol while hunting. It had been stuck in the crook of a tree about 7-8 feet above the ground. Turned it into police who identified it as a murder weapon.
Found a dead Irish Setter once. Dead a couple days with a gunshot to the skull. Dog appeared perfectly healthy otherwise, young adult with no other apparent trauma. Still wore its collar. Imagine some a-hole owner decided he was tired of his dog and did him in.
Other than that I've found little exciting besides dead game animals and livestock.
Guess I should be thankful.
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