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Posted by Tim Behle (Member # 209) on December 13, 2005, 06:37 PM:

Some of the recent threads have gotten me to thinking about childhood hero's.

While John Wayne was probably my first, as I could watch TV before I could read.

One of the First I remember reading of, and couldn't get enough reading about, was Frank Luke.

Who were your childhood Hero's?

Posted by Cdog911 (Member # 7) on December 13, 2005, 06:40 PM:

Higgins and Leonard.

Compared to those two, they're so old I feel like a young'un again. [Smile]

Oh,... Cronk, too.

Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on December 13, 2005, 10:20 PM:

real funny, Lance. haha

Higgins deserves the abuse, but I've always been nice to you. <sniff, sniff>

Good hunting. LB

My childhood hero was Moses

Posted by 2dogs (Member # 649) on December 14, 2005, 02:24 AM:

My oldest Bro, Buck. Later in life, Jesus. Neither have given up on me [Smile]

Posted by Rob (Member # 75) on December 14, 2005, 04:53 AM:

Leonard Sarrinen an ole Finlander I knew when I was a kid..logger,miner,trapper I thought Leonard was pretty cool..still do he's in his 90's now and just keeps on truckin.

[ December 14, 2005, 05:08 AM: Message edited by: Rob ]

Posted by Rich (Member # 112) on December 14, 2005, 02:33 PM:

Leonard is in his 90's now? By gosh he carrys his age well. My childhood hero? That would have been my Dad. Shucks, I thought my Dad could jump tall buildings in a single bound.

Posted by Cdog911 (Member # 7) on December 14, 2005, 04:46 PM:

In my youth, no one in particular.

Today, "Ike" Eisenhower.

Posted by Gerald Stewart (Member # 162) on December 14, 2005, 05:39 PM:

In real life...Ferrell Wilson. I carried his casket about a month ago. He was my best friend's father. I used to tell Mom I was going over to play with Mark, but I really wanted to stand in Mr. Wilson's work shop and hope he would let me hand him tools.

In the Movie's....John Wayne. I wasn't the only one in my Family who liked him. My Mother gave me my middle name after him...Gerald Wayne Stewart.

In the cartoons....Roger Ram Jet...He's our hero...saviour of our nation...or so the theme song went.

Thanks Tim...I needed that break.....

Posted by Tim Behle (Member # 209) on December 15, 2005, 03:49 AM:

Wayne seems to be a popular middle name.

My last two partners at work both carried Wayne as a middle name.

My Mom seem to like that name too.

Timothy Wayne Behle

Posted by varmit hunter (Member # 37) on December 15, 2005, 05:10 AM:

Every man and Women that has laid down there lives in defense of this country are my heroes. John Wayne had the studios get him a 4F because he had five kids. He then divorced his wife and slept with all the stars wife's who were serving in the war. Jimmy Stewart completed all his missions over Germany in a B-17 while John Wane was in bed with his wife. Lee Marvin was a Marine on several major invasions, Van Johnson a B-25 pilot, and the list goes on. What about Chuck Yeager a ace shot down over France then spent three months making it back to our lines on foot while the "Duke was making "Hero movies" The policy then was not to allow any pilot shot down over France to fly again for fear they would give up information about the French under ground if shot down again. Yeager went to Gen. Eisenhower with the promise he would carry cyanide pills in case he was shot down again. Went back up and became a double ace. Then broke the sound barrier in Glamorous Glenda with three broken rids he broke the day before.. Yes Byron I know that you met Gen. Yeager.

There is the silver screen. Then there is red blood. Heroes are found in the latter.

John Wane was a product of the Holly Wood studios. The men who scaled the cliffs on Omaha beach were the products of the soul of America.

John Wayne my ass!.

[ December 15, 2005, 07:26 AM: Message edited by: varmit hunter ]

Posted by Gerald Stewart (Member # 162) on December 15, 2005, 08:53 AM:

Whoaa.....take a deep breath there Varmit Hunter...now sit down...and...relax...let it out.....there now.

Man...am I glad I preficed my John Wayne response with "In the Movies". Your reaction made me a little nervous with us being from the same state and just a short drive from each other. [Wink]

We all have heroes from many areas of our lives. Not all Policemen, Fireman or Soldiers are heroes in my book. I reserve that distinction for those who truly deserve it through acts of selflessness to the benefit of others. That is only one definition.

That definition can be applied to many types of people from all walks of life. The Organ Donor who saves a life, the citizen who saves a life and loses their own in the process are Heroes.

Not all of the people on the Airliner that went down in the Pa field on 911 were Heroes. Most were victims. The few that fought their way to the cockpit were Heroes in my opinion. Many people deserve our respect but not the lofty characterization of Hero.

The Websters definition can be applied to those I listed in a couple of ways.

He'ro(hir'o):

1. A man admired for his courage, fortitude, prowess, nobility, etc. - Ferrell Wilson

2. The principle male character in a play, story, or poem. - John Wayne

Roger Ram Jet...well...it was a cartoon and I was a little kid...what else can I say.

If in fact your info is correct about the Duke, it would not surprise me because it is Hollywood after all. I just hope you didn't get it from one of those tabloids by the checkout at the grocery store. [Wink]

[ December 15, 2005, 11:54 AM: Message edited by: Gerald Stewart ]

Posted by Bryan J (Member # 106) on December 15, 2005, 09:24 AM:

As a youngster in addition to my dad, I looked up to guys like Chuck Forman, Fran Tarkinton (sp?), and Allen Page. I was a huge Vikings fan, but also liked Mean Joe Green (always dreamed of giving him a Coke). I can’t remember when they went on strike but that changed my outlook on the league forever and people look at me funny after they ask if I’m going to be watching the Super Bowl and I reply “Who is playing?”

Posted by Gerald Stewart (Member # 162) on December 15, 2005, 11:53 AM:

BryanJ, when I was not rooting for the Dallas Cowboys, I lived to watch Fran and the Purple People Eaters.

Posted by Kokopelli (Member # 633) on December 15, 2005, 01:19 PM:

D.B.Cooper

Posted by scruffy (Member # 725) on December 15, 2005, 01:51 PM:

My grandpa. Raised 6 kids, worked in a factory 40 hours a week, owned/farmed 2 farms, loved his wife and kids, took food every holiday to the family members who couldn't make it to the family get togethers anymore (shutins), faught and won a battle against cancer and lived another 10 years, in those 10 years took care of grandma as she degraded with alztimers, watched her waste away, he may have won a battle with cancer but cancer eventually won the war, he died November 2001, just before Thanksgiving, one year and a few hours from grandma's passing.

I never once heard him complain. He probably did, we all do, but he must have complained silently to himself. He seemed to always have his priorities right and his head on straight. I only heard his raise his voice a couple times, and that was because someone was about to do something that was going to get them hurt.

He's my roll model, my hero.

[ December 15, 2005, 01:52 PM: Message edited by: scruffy ]

Posted by Bryan J (Member # 106) on December 15, 2005, 02:31 PM:

Gerald, I watched Tony D. catch a bunch of Roger S. passes back in those days, guilty of cheering on occasion as well. LOL I would cheer for almost anyone but the Raiders. [Wink]

Posted by onecoyote (Member # 129) on December 15, 2005, 08:05 PM:

Scruffy, that dude was way ahead of his time, and a real American Hero but nobody realizes it. He beat the system and set standards for Highjacking planes...Wow, lol. To be honest, I always hoped he made it with that $250,000, that was alot of money at the time. Hey, Billy the Kidd killed people, this guy used his brain. [Wink]

Roger the doger, I remember him when he played for Navy. The other guy Tony Dorset, yeah I remember him at Pitt. They played pro football? [Wink]

[ December 15, 2005, 08:08 PM: Message edited by: onecoyote ]

Posted by Rich Higgins (Member # 3) on December 15, 2005, 09:15 PM:

Danny, D.B. did one thing of sigificance in his life and he screwed that up. Yup, he hi-jacked the jet and got the 250k and killed himself exiting the plane. [Smile]

Posted by Locohead (Member # 15) on December 15, 2005, 10:07 PM:

When I was a kid, I used to run around with my shirt off and tell all the other boys in the neighborhood I was an ****** . I loved ******* and the way they were portrayed in the movies. I even used to get in trouble at the dinner table for grabbing the meat off the plate and ripping chunks off with my teeth (like I saw in the movies). I made a bows and arrows out of twine and sticks.

I read a biography about Jim Thorpe. He became my hero. In fact, I read several biographies about him. Speaking of biographies, I read a bunch on the Beatles as a kid too.

Since age 16, my hero has been Jesus too. Plain and simple. Who else do you know that could call down more than 12 legions of angels to rescue himself but would rather die for His own? [Smile]

[ December 15, 2005, 10:10 PM: Message edited by: Locohead ]

Posted by pup (Member # 90) on December 16, 2005, 05:56 AM:

Early on, my Dad worked for a couple of stock contractors. Harry Vold and Tommy Steiner. In my memories both still appear larger than life. There was also a saddlebronc rider that Dad said was probably the best of all time, just never really cared to travel much. Larry Cain. A good saddlebronc ride, is a beautiful thing. Freckles Brown , Jim Shoulders, and Larry Mahan.

Trade related, In high school a welder Randy Evans taught me to run a torch and weld. I put food on the table quite a few years off of that.
Danny Saulters taught me to read a Square and cut in a roof, finer points of framing a house. My house which is almost through, turned out the way it did, just because he took the time to share. Dad for the gift of shoeing horses and the better points of handmade shoeing and forge work, and just plain old whipping my arse until I made a hand. Mr. Rodney Bankston for teaching me to understand customer service and sound buisness principles.

Again my Dad, for being a Christian when it wasn't cool. E.W. Kenyon for bringing balance.

Dad threw out the T.V. when I was a kid, so after the chores and school work were done, a book was all you had. Biographies of Jim Bridger, Kit Carson, James Bowie, Sam Houston, Daniel Boone, early guys that did every day what we have fun doing every chance we get.

Predator Hunting, well my grandaddy, Bernard Ray Daniels aka (Booger Red)or (Toby) and not to be blowing sunshine up any skirts, Rich Higgins and Gerald Stewart.

My number one hero though, is my Wife. She is my best friend and when every thing is closing in she knows just what to say to fix it, even if it means telling me to get my act together. She also is seeing to it that I get to go on a two week coyote hunt in Jan. WOOHOOO!!!!

Posted by Gerald Stewart (Member # 162) on December 16, 2005, 08:25 AM:

Wow Pup, it took me awhile to decide how to react when I read your post. I was not sure how it would be taken if I said nothing so I feel like I have to say something.

This dicussion about our Heroes is a pretty serious one that makes me unsure why you would include me in your post. I may be someone who's shoes you would like to be in or you respect me for something I have said or done in the past but I am not sure that whatever it is, it rises to the level of Hero. Regardless, I am pretty unworthy of that characterization when measured by my definition of a Hero.

I am humbled by your thought. It reminds me once again that I should be mindful of what I say or how I act because of the impression it leaves with others. Thanks for kicking me back in line.

Posted by pup (Member # 90) on December 16, 2005, 09:12 AM:

Gerald,

I think that you touched on it, in that it is not your idea of a hero, but mine. I was hesitant to mention it, as I didn't want it to be perceived that I was just blowing sunshine at you both. I do think that it possibly could of been a blast to grow up in the environment that you did, but I definitely wouldn't want to try and walk in your shoes now. I don't deal well with people that stiff me.

You just took the time to discuss predator hunting to a person that didn't have two nickels to rub together,and was in need of advice and you freely gave. You gave me one of the calls, because I didn't have enough to buy it. Both demonstrate a compassion for fellow man, regardless of stature, or economic worth. Your actions in my book, equates to hero.

Rich Higgins did likewise. He didn't know me from Adam, yet he took time to discuss howling and the most productive howling for him. He opened up his home, took me hunting and shared some of his hard aquired knowledge of the subject, all freely along with the most beautiful howler I have ever seen. He turned me on to misting, and to the fact that there is alot of stuff a coyote will do if not shot at the first opportunity. Rich also brought some piece to a situation that I had here on the board. I had let my emotions get the best of me and let my mouth/fingers shoot off a little too quick(water long gone under the bridge, and my appologies to Wiley E. Scott H.). The trips out to Az. has rewarded me with several new friends and aquaintances within the sport.

No real way to repay the debt, other than to pass on the knowledge. I do know that I have given away more than one call that I have made, and thought back to the gifts(tangible and not) that you both gave me.

Again I didn't want to come across as sappy, but wanted to respond to your post as to my reason of why you made my list.

Now if you have a guilty conscience then maybe you had better snap back in line. [Wink]

later pup

Posted by Gerald Stewart (Member # 162) on December 16, 2005, 11:06 AM:

I saw my parents do that over and over not only in their business but in their private lives also.

Sounds like it was from your heart and there is nothing sappy about that. Thanks for making my day.

Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on December 16, 2005, 12:42 PM:

Gearld and Rich aren't my heros, but they sure are good people and I'm proud to know them both. (let them squirm, lol)

When you think on it, the word "hero" covers a lot of ground. All those that pup met along the way, I can see why he feels the way he does and hero seems to fit as well as any other proper noun. Role models, as it were?

Good hunting. LB

Posted by Cdog911 (Member # 7) on December 16, 2005, 03:07 PM:

Pup,

Ain't nothing sappy about speaking honestly. In Colorado, in my first opportunity to actually visit with Rich face to face, I took the opportunity to personally thank him for the gains he and his willingness to share his wealth of experience have brought to not only my life, but to the lives of my wife and kids. Admittedly, I became a bit emotional in expressing my thanks, but I'm not the least bit ashamed. I just hope he, and many of the rest of you, know how important the gifts you have offered are to me, many of which you may not know. I'm forty-one now and have seen too many people die in my life without having told them thanks for what they have given me.

Yours was an excellent post. Ditto!

[ December 16, 2005, 06:49 PM: Message edited by: Cdog911 ]

Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on December 16, 2005, 05:28 PM:

And, guess what I got, in the mail, today? Rich Higgins entire predator hunting library, looks to be about thirty or so? Man, I don't know what to say except: thanks! This large package came by way of Orange, Texas, so I also thank Ronnie Roberson for putting this stuff together. I really appreciate the thoughtfulness.

Good hunting. LB

Posted by Timberghozt (Member # 707) on December 17, 2005, 05:45 PM:

Man...The word hero is hard to define.Mine is probably my grandpa Wimmer.He took me hunting and fishing with him and taught me things that were never forgotten.Honestly he was the best hunter I have ever known.He just had the knack I guess.
A fella named Sergeant Marcellus Jackson that opened the turret door on the Bradley I was on as we crossed the border into Iraq.He looked down at me and knew I was just a young 19 year old kid and I was scared.He gave me that fatherly wink and told me it was gonna be alright.One of those things you never forget and somehow that wink and words calmed me that day in a deadly place.
I guess there have been lots of folks in my life that have made sincere impressions on me but man ,,heroes are hard to define..

Posted by Locohead (Member # 15) on December 17, 2005, 09:54 PM:

Mother Teresa!

Man, what an example of compassion!!! Talk about laying down your life for a brother...

Posted by huntress (Member # 322) on December 21, 2005, 08:39 PM:

Huh?? I've never heard of some of these heros you're all talking about.. .. [Confused]

Britney Spears is my hero [Embarrassed]

NOT!!!!

Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on December 21, 2005, 08:49 PM:

What about George W. Bush? A HERO waging war against Global Terrorism, with the Democrats throwing up roadblock after roadblock, and doing it with one hand tied behind his back, like Rush. He seems to be the only one in Washington DC that has a clue as to how important it is that we defeat these murderous scum.

Good hunting. LB

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