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Posted by Cdog911 (Member # 7) on August 11, 2005, 07:48 PM:

Here's something I haven't seen covered for a while. What do you other guys do for glasses for calling? I've got transitions and, quite frankly, it doesn't matter how little light there is, they still transition to some degree of grey, even on overcast days, and it seems to me to be all the more difficult to distinguish a lot of natural color tones (like, coyote in grass). I thought about buying a cheap pair of plain non-tinted glasses to use just for hunting but I'm concerned that wearing different glasses will affect the accuracy of the zero on my rifles. Anyone else have any thoughts on this?

Posted by Jay Nistetter (Member # 140) on August 11, 2005, 08:46 PM:

I wear progressive lens glasses and they suck. Looking to the side, everything is out of focus. You almost have to have you nose pointed directly at what you're looking at to see clearly.

The reason, I wear them is because I'm usually looking through a camera lens or the LCD screen and tinted and especially polarized glasses make everything very hard to see.

If I'm not using a camera, I eagerly switch to tear-drop aviator style sunglasses with black frames.

I have not noticed any differences in point of impact between the two because when I jerk the trigger my eyes are closed anyway.

Posted by Melvin (Member # 634) on August 11, 2005, 08:53 PM:

Lance,..I use the clear glasses.Every pair of tinted glasses i've tried seem to make matters worse,in dim light...Of course my eye sight may differ than others...Someone with 20-20 vision, most likely wouldn't have a problem with tinted glasses...I would recommend you use what you see through best in low light.

Posted by Tim Behle (Member # 209) on August 11, 2005, 09:04 PM:

Lance,

You can either quit playing with that thing, and hope your eyes eventually reverse, or just get a pair of contacts and be happy.

My contacts work well for me, but I'm beginning to think I'm going deaf. I still score top marks on hearing tests. But if I have much background noise, I have a hard time following a conversation. It's frustrating as hell for me, and it's beginning to piss off the wife pretty regular.

Posted by Doggitter (Member # 489) on August 11, 2005, 09:19 PM:

Took my pop(72) out a couple times last winter and he had a heck of a time with those auto-darkening glasses. Took them off and it wasn't any better. The glasses were always too dark. I'd like to find a fix since he really enjoyed the rest of the trip each time.

Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on August 11, 2005, 10:52 PM:

Glasses. Boy, have I been around the block with them, for almost fifteen years, now.

I used to wear them while hunting and remove them for shooting, did that fumble stuff for a few years.

Tried to use tint on the upper part, with one pair, but, that's the portion that you look through when shooting, so that didn't work too well.

Also tried a yellow pair, you know, for the high contrast? They tended to make me look a little sick, I didn't like them, and didn't like the way I looked in them.

I use blended polycarbonate, exclusively, never noticed a problem as *** describes? My opinion, they are the way to go, without any tint.

You want a durable pair of frames? I have three pair of Marchuan Flexons. These are made of spring stainless steel, almost indestructable, I have had one pair for about twelve years, and put several new prescriptions in them. I have one pair for work and one for home and one dark tinted for driving, all in the basic aviator style, 62mm lenses. Another thing that is worthwhile is the anti reflective coating. Polycarbonate will scratch so it pays to have them coated with scratch resistant.

Back to the point. I'm far sighted, in my old age, didn't need glasses until I was in my late forties. I used to have trouble putting them on and taking them off. Hanging on a rope around my neck, they seemed to snag on a lot of things. In my shirt posket, it was no better, always falling out on pavement or into a garbage can. Then, because I kept leaving them at home, I would lay them on the car seat, so that Nancy could sit on them. That's when I started getting the bullet proof frames.

Anyway, although I do not need them for casual things, I found that the best place for them was on my face, so I just had to get used to wearing them, and if I had to do that, I wanted the lightest most comfortable glasses money could buy.

Oh yeah. I tried soft contacts for a short time. I was driving on the 605 one day when one of them slipped and nearly blinded me. Hard to put on and even harder to remove. Not for me, never found them comfortable, at all, forget building up some sort of callus.

My friend wears full contacts and does he EVER have trouble in wind and dust, and smoke around a campfire. I can see that it is very painful for him. And, he has to take them out after 8-10 hours. And then, he is done! What the hell is that? Done? He can't hunt, can't shoot and can't drive.

No thanks. Nancy says my old man goggles make me look old, but I don't give a ****. [Smile]

Good hunting. LB

Posted by Jay Nistetter (Member # 140) on August 11, 2005, 10:59 PM:

Tim,
Try a little alcohol and a Q-tip.
Should fix you right up.

Posted by Kokopelli (Member # 633) on August 12, 2005, 03:14 AM:

I've worn glasses all of my life, so maybe I've just had longer to get used to the things. Currently wearing extra dark transition with no line bi-focals. No problems.

I did, however, leave the truck once wearing a pair of prescription sunglasses about 2:pm 'just to see what was over that hill'. Then another hill, then some coyotes howling past that, ect. ect.
It was well past dark-thirty before I even got back to the road. No moon & wearing sunglasses that I can't see with and can't see without. The only thng burning brightly that night was the 'dumb light'. It was close to midnight when I (finally) almost walked into my truck.

Posted by TRnCO (Member # 690) on August 12, 2005, 05:43 AM:

I'm extremely near sighted, my eye doc. says I'm "off the chart"! But I've been wearing soft contacts for about 20 years, and have only ever lost one. The contacts I wear now are weighted and correct my stigmatizm. For some reason dust and smoke don't really bother me. I can easily take them out/put them in without a mirror.
I know many people that have had lasik done and most love the results. BUT me, well makes me a bit nervous about having it done, what if they messup on one eye, or both!! Then what!! [Confused]

Posted by 2dogs (Member # 649) on August 12, 2005, 09:51 AM:

Been farsighted my whole life, still a good spotter/hill humper. Been wearing Bifocals the last dozen yrs or so, sucks getting old. [Other parts going down the pooper, as well, go figure [Mad]

].

When I can't see/hunt coyotes or hump through the hills anymore. My coyote hunter Bro...said, " He'd take me down to the river, to tend the rabbits" [Confused]

Wind in my face, SUN at my back 2dogs

[ August 12, 2005, 09:53 AM: Message edited by: 2dogs ]

Posted by Bud/OR (Member # 450) on August 12, 2005, 10:11 AM:

I've worn glasses for fourty-some-odd years. Been through the gamut; nose gouges, ear cuts, always have dark glasses when it's night and clear in bright sunlight(Murphy). I've settled on super-light, stainless frames with the spring-loaded ear pieces. The lenses are bi-focal with a super low, near vision grind and photo-gray tint.

Something I found interesting, concerning glasses, about fifteen years ago; My son, my wife and I were deer hunting, early one morning. 'It was a cold and rainy morning...'. Anyhow...a little too chilly for my wife, so she stayed at our van while Jim and I did a sashay across this big flat.

A couple hours later the sun came out and we worked our way back to where the coffee and donuts were. We were four hundred-or-so yards from the van when a gunshot scared hell out of us. We beat cheeks to find out who was shooting at Momma.

There she stood, leaning against the van. Fifty yards away was a nice fork-horn...The Lord had taken him home. 'Thanks for the deer, fellas.', she says. 'That was a nice drive, glasses just-a-flashin'. Me an those deer saw you for a half mile'(there were four of them).

My stupidity...pissed me off,...for lack of a better term. We were returning against a low morning sun, both of us wearing full camo and our specs. She couldn't pick us out, even when moving...except for the bright flash of our glasses.

Now...every hunting hat I own has a camouflage net sewn into it, to cover my face. I can see through it just fine and my glasses don't flash. Wonder how many animals I spooked, over the years, just by turning my head.

Bud

[ August 12, 2005, 10:14 AM: Message edited by: Bud/OR ]

Posted by Cdog911 (Member # 7) on August 12, 2005, 02:18 PM:

Thanks for the inpout, guys. Especially Tim. I'll talk to the wife about doing more to contribute to my future healthy eyesight. [Smile]

She's always been a team player. And Tim, if it makes you feel any better, I've been wearing goggles since I was 13 and am going deaf. By my best guess, I'll do my first video on "Hunting Yotes the Helen Keller Way" in about twenty years.

The last time I had my eyes checked, the doctor was all gung-ho about lasix and I said no. Likwise, I just have this thing about one doctor telling me not to shine a laser in my eye and the other telling me it'd be the best thing in the world for me. For a fee. As far as contacts, that's a no go. My seasonal allergies are so bad that I'd only be able to wear them for a fraction of the year. They tried some drops that were supposed to be high-powered at knocking out eye-related allergies and they didn't help at all. BVesides, don't y'all remember the hell I went thru with the kenalog shot last March? I'm still on heart meds to countmand the side effects of that little bright idea and was woke up last night dropping heart beats. With all the drugs I've been on this summer, you'd think I was 80. The guys are giving me hell at work for the 'roids they have me on now for my screwed up neck.

I just figure I'll order me a pair of clear poly's with scratch protection in the large framed Larry King style lenses just for hunting with. The ones I have now are little lenses and, although "stylin'", they aren't worth s shit for hunting since you hve to move your head to look anywhere but straight ahead, like Jay said, otherwise you're looking outside the lens and frame.

Thanks again for the input.

Posted by Curt2u (Member # 74) on August 12, 2005, 05:15 PM:

Lance you might reconsider LASIK. My wife, brother in-law and sister in-law all went together about 10 years ago and had it done. Also have several friends (one, a regular hunting partner) that have had it done. They all said it was the best thing they ever did. All had heavy prescription contacts and glasses. All now have excellent vision and rely on no vision aids of any kind. The surgery was a piece of cake and little discomfort. My wife actually has better vision than me now. I don't wear glasses but I'm sure my time is coming. When it does, I will definitely look into corrective surgery. As much money as we dump into our recreational activities, the cost for good hassle free vision would be a small price to pay. The risk of complication is there of course but very, very small.

Good hunting

Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on August 12, 2005, 05:28 PM:

I could easily be wrong about this, but I think the Lasik does not offer much benefit to those who are far sighted. We would still need reading glasses.

Anybody hear any different?

Good hunting. LB

Posted by Lonny (Member # 19) on August 12, 2005, 05:48 PM:

Thats pretty much the way I heard it Leonard. My wife had Lasik done about a year and a half ago for her near sightedness and her vision is now around 20/20. The Doctor did say that as she ages she will most likely need reading glasses at some point. She has been very satisfied with the results of her Lasik surgery. For her the possibility of wearing reading glasses someday far outweighs the everyday hassle of contacts and glasses. I went to the consoltation and surgery with my wife and I was impressed with how things were handled.

Posted by Melvin (Member # 634) on August 12, 2005, 06:24 PM:

Good question,Leonard..I would also like to know...I am far sighted and got them little floaters things floating around in my eyes...Talk about getting distracted!..I bet i see more coyote movement better than the rest of you bunch,even if one isn't there!...Any of you got what they call floaters?..They can be a pain in the a**...You sit on stand,swatting mosquitos thats not there!..Darn thats a pain in the a**!You see movement out the side of you're eye and you turn slowly to keep from spooking,whatever it may be...Darn,it's another floater!...Sometimes you have a whole sh** load of floaters!..Thats when it's time to stay home and watch the floaters go by.

Posted by Curt2u (Member # 74) on August 12, 2005, 06:33 PM:

Yeah Lonny, you are right. I believe my wife was told the same. I really don't know much about it. I just got to write the check. lol! [Smile]

I do know it isn't for everybody. Some people are not good candidates for the procedure.

Take care

Posted by Jack Roberts (Member # 13) on August 12, 2005, 06:55 PM:

The floaters are a bitch. I think I am seeing a flying insect and swat at air.

Jack

Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on August 12, 2005, 06:56 PM:

Floaters? What floaters? Unless looking up, or hunting on new snow, I hardly notice them anymore.

Good hunting. LB

Posted by Tim Behle (Member # 209) on August 12, 2005, 09:18 PM:

Where's Vic? I think he had that surgery about 10 years ago.

Lance, if it is any consolation. I started wearing contacts about 2-3 years after I hit puberty. But my Doctor said there wasn't any real connection between the two. [Confused]

Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on August 12, 2005, 10:19 PM:

What are you refering to, Tim? Does that activity really lead to blindness? [Razz]

Good hunting. LB

Posted by Norm (Member # 240) on August 12, 2005, 10:37 PM:

go for the lasik... I did it am glad I did... have to do the reading glasses now... but don't have to hassle with the contacts and glasses when bow hunting...

Posted by Gerald Stewart (Member # 162) on August 13, 2005, 02:34 AM:

No Leonard, but his hands sure are hairy. [Big Grin]

Posted by Lungbuster (Member # 630) on August 13, 2005, 11:47 AM:

Have you guys found anything that works consistantly to keep your glasses from fogging up? Last year I lip squeaked a coyote into bow range right behind mt tree. When I turned to try and make the shot my safety belt kind of hung up on my neck and pulled my facemask to the side, moving the hole I had cut for my mouth. When I exhaled right before the shot, my breath intantly fogged up my glasses and I was blind.
I've tried the anti-fog stuff for windshields but it doesn't seem like it lasts for more than a day or so.
Any other ideas?

Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on August 13, 2005, 11:57 AM:

There is no solution to that problem. You cannot wear a facemask and glasses and expect that they won't fog. I have tried everything on the market.

Best bet is not to wear a hood and not wear a bandana or full face type of shield. You must have clear exhaust for your nostrils. If it leaks up along the sides of your cheeks, you will fog your glasses, sooner or later.

Good hunting. LB

Posted by Az-Hunter (Member # 17) on August 13, 2005, 01:18 PM:

My eye correction surgery was back in the stone age compared to what they have available now. I had the radial keratotomy, where they used a diamond scalpel, and made radial cuts, like spokes ona wheel around my cornea. The number of cuts, was detirmined by the severity of astigmatism, or shape of the eye. The object is to flatten the surface of the eye, to make it uniform....like if you fry a piece of bologna in the pan, how it puffs up in the middle, thenif you cut slits around the edges, it flattens back down...that was the process.
The surgery worked like a charm for me, but that was 1989, now my vision is not as good as I would like. Im contemplating lasik, but need to find out if my prior surgery would hamper the results?
I understand that they can now address the problem of needing reading glasses, I think they dorrect one eye for distance, the other for up close? Sounds distracting, but that is essentailly what my doctor wanted to do with my glasses and their correction, supposedly it works fine.
There is a Doctor in Auga Prieta Tim that has a lasik clinic, Swanson is the name, he has a clinic in Sierra Vista too, but the price tag is just about double if you have it done here in the state versus across the line, around $700 and eye I think? I detest glasses, and my present vision could pass a drivers test, but it's not as crisp as I'd like it.
It's hell getting older ain't it? Eyes dim, ears go bad, but sprout hair that is fast leaving the top of our head, knees that ache and get sore, screw it!!!! I need a nap:)

Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on August 13, 2005, 01:41 PM:

Yeah, I am aware of that solution, Vic. One eye for close up and the other for distance. The concept doesn't appeal to this kid.

Also, Nancy has a friend that had lasik in TJ, and although the odds may be 1000 to one, she really came out of it with a botched job, and no legal recourse.

Good hunting. LB

Posted by 2dogs (Member # 649) on August 13, 2005, 04:07 PM:

Lungbuster,

The only thing that comes to my mind. Is a painter's face mask with screw-on side
air filter[s]. Their generally grey anyway. So somewhat camo'd already. Should work as a cough silencer as well.

Posted by Cdog911 (Member # 7) on August 13, 2005, 07:25 PM:

Lungbuster,

I have the same problem and am always fogging up my glasses because I like to wear a billed ballcap down over my eyes and if it isn't my brath fopgging things up, it's from me getting warmed up on the way to the stand. Most of the time, I just pull my mask down so it's just beneath my nose with my mouth still covered, then breath out through my nose. Helps a little bit.

This is funnier than hell how we're all talking about our infirmities and such. Like the rest of you, I have tinnitis in both ears but mostly in the right. Part of it is congential, but most of it was from a dumb ass EMS partner who hit the yelp on the ambulanbce when I was walking about four feet in front of it in the station one day. Within minutes, my inner ear was full of fluid. If I only knew then, ...

Actually, as far as hairloss, I plan on going out with a full head of hair. I've noticed the past ten years or so that as it disappears off the top and the hairline moves back, it's been growing more and more down my back, underneath and back up the front. If I can make it another thirty years or so, the tail end of it oughtta be just about at the top of my forehead again. [Smile]

Keep the dream alive!!!

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