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Posted by Tyler H (Member # 383) on August 24, 2004, 07:21 PM:

1. Dad and I will be there.
2. Gerry Blair said if he's alive and kicking he'll be there.
Who else?
3. Tim Behle
4. Jay Nistetter and Bill Martz
5. Danny Batastini
6. kee kee
7. Norm

[ August 25, 2004, 09:04 PM: Message edited by: Tyler H ]

Posted by Tim Behle (Member # 209) on August 24, 2004, 07:26 PM:

Tyler,

Glad to see you could bring yourself, try to drag the old man out with you so we can poke fun at him this year too.

This is one event I wouldn't miss for anything!

Posted by Jay Nistetter (Member # 140) on August 24, 2004, 07:28 PM:

Me and Bill M. will be there.

Posted by onecoyote (Member # 129) on August 24, 2004, 08:37 PM:

I ain't sure I'm invited, but I'll be there anyway I hope. I liked all the guys that were there last year, it can only get better. I remember my old buddy Bruce and I made one stand the whole weekend, must of called in 20 critters, but we forgot the ammo. [Wink]

[ August 24, 2004, 08:57 PM: Message edited by: onecoyote ]

Posted by NASA (Member # 177) on August 24, 2004, 09:07 PM:

BM?? I wouldn't miss that for the world! [Razz]

Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on August 24, 2004, 10:07 PM:

Danny, you are not only invited, but we'd have to call the whole thing off, if you backed out. You're the headliner, dude.

Seriously, I need to hear from a few of you guys, The steering committee needs a little planning session.

Here's the way I feel. I have a number of inquiries; but I don't want to make decisions for the whole group.

Good hunting. LB

Think about it and email me.

Good hunting. LB

Posted by NVWalt (Member # 375) on August 25, 2004, 05:52 AM:

ok, so where is it you guys meet at.Not in your beloved state of Kalifornia I would think. Arizona maybe, Nevada or new Mexico. You have peaked my interest and inquiering minds or one brain dead coyote hunter wants to know....NVWalt

Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on August 25, 2004, 10:38 AM:

Stay tuned, Walt.

For the present, I have had email returned from several people. It would help if I had an update on your current address, without those clever little spam defeating inserts.

Good hunting. LB

Posted by tonlocus (Member # 254) on August 25, 2004, 01:03 PM:

Leaonard, are you having a problem with mine?

Posted by Norm (Member # 240) on August 25, 2004, 02:19 PM:

Tyler, the only requirement is that you bring your camera an make sure you intently catch your father's antics on film, similar to what he did to others last year.....

I plan to set up a couple tents and have some cots for people to utilize if they choose to sleep....

Posted by Krustyklimber (Member # 72) on August 25, 2004, 04:17 PM:

Tony,

Man you didn't get the e-mails? Everybody is on the list dude!

No actually I am just kidding, it's a pretty exclusive list... and somehow my name accidently (I assume accidently) got on the list.

Hey guys, I really don't want to know what's going on behind the scenes, so if you guys could work my name off of the e-mails being circulated I'd appreciate it.

And not to worry, I have deleted all incoming mail with the "big dudes list" of e-mail addresses... none of you will be getting any e-mail, or spam, from me.

Tyler,

You've gotten 300 coyotes now? Congratulations bro! [Razz]

Oh, I am not attending. I gave up party crashing a long time ago.

Krusty

[ August 25, 2004, 04:20 PM: Message edited by: Krustyklimber ]

Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on August 25, 2004, 06:48 PM:

Krusty, I think somebody inadvertantly put you on the 300 minimum list, (or) it was a joke? I dunno?

The spot is limited for space, maybe eight or ten vehicles and tents and trailers, etc would max it out. Maybe we will be car pooling?

Sorry for the confusion. LB

Posted by keekee (Member # 367) on August 25, 2004, 07:22 PM:

I have the date's scheduled off of work. And wouldnt miss this for anything. Look forward to it! Will be a great time, Im sure!

Kee

Posted by crapshoot (Member # 225) on August 25, 2004, 07:25 PM:

Thats OK Krusty, you and I can hang out together since I didnt get invited either. [Wink]

Posted by Tim Behle (Member # 209) on August 25, 2004, 07:27 PM:

Krusty,

As the person who originated that 300 coyote minimum last year, let me point out that I didn't direct it at you. I directed it at someone who would never post on a board that Leonard owns.

As for Tyler killing 300 coyotes. Consider who his Father is, and who all he hunts with. Jay Nistetter, Fred Cronk, Robb and the many others who are as active in the PVCA as he and his Dad are. The opportunity to kill 300 coyotes probably came a lot easier to him than the opportunity to loose his virginity.

If you don't want to come to the hunt, that's your choice. But I don't want you to close out the year empty handed, so how about I make you a good deal? You pick one of the first two weekends in December, get a flight down to Tucson on a Friday afternoon and I will pick you up, feed and board you and if I can't put at least one shootable coyote in front of you by Sunday afternoon, I'll pay for your airfare home. Sound fair? I'll even let you choose if I use handcalls or electronics.

Calling coyotes isn't all that hard, some folks just try too hard, I think that's what is catching you.

Posted by Krustyklimber (Member # 72) on August 25, 2004, 07:56 PM:

Leonard,

You put me on the list, with the first e-mail this morning... you tell me whether it's a joke or what?

Crapshoot,

You're more than welcome to come up and hunt with me, anytime.

Tim,

I think you've missed my attempt at humor.
I thought after last year, y'all would know I think the 300 coyote thing is and was a joke (even though I don't have a clue at who).

As for Tyler, I am gonna take Tyler on his own merits, and won't hold who his father is against him (another joke).
I am pretty sure Tyler could more than teach me a few things, about predator hunting, and about having a father-son relationship... two things I haven't done much of.

I hope he knew I was just poking fun, and meant him no malice.
I actually thought about it after I had posted and hoped he wasn't gonna come back and say "oh yeah Krusty, I got to 300 last fall while winning a contest"... [Smile]

As far as the Huntmasters Hunt, it's not even about whether I would choose to go or not, travelling that far for any length of time is just not in my budget.
I will be here, close to home, happily working on my own 300 coyote antee.

I personally don't care how many dead animals we have to count at the end of the year, if any at all...
I hope my brother and I have a good time trying, I hope we learn something on each trip, and that we can return home safely everytime.

I definitely spent way too long, trying way too hard.

Krusty

Posted by NASA (Member # 177) on August 25, 2004, 08:38 PM:

"I personally don't care how many dead animals we have to count at the end of the year, if any at all..."
There's nothing wrong with that position. In fact, I share it. I've been shooting coyotes for almost 40 years, but have never been in a "contest", of any sort. Even when I belonged to clubs, I never entered or teamed up.

For me, coyote hunting is satisfying as a personal challenge. Just like my falconry, surfing, and skiing is (was) kept personal, so is my hunting. My ego is comfortable without the need to feed on someone elses inability to keep pace with me. Actually, I get more satisfaction from helping them to succeede, than I do reveling in their failures.
This probably explains why I don't gamble when I'm in Vegas, too. [Big Grin]

Krusty, you've been invited to go play with the big boys. You should go.

(edit) I don't have a problem with contest hunting, or any other competitive events. I've just never felt the desire to compete. The pride I felt in personal acomplishments has been good enough for me, I guess.

[ August 25, 2004, 08:52 PM: Message edited by: NASA ]

Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on August 25, 2004, 08:43 PM:

Won't post here? Wonder who that could be?

Krusty, you have an offer, dude. A generous one, at that.

Oh yeah, anybody want to talk about that milestone event? You go first, Tyler?

(just kidding)

Good hunting. LB

Posted by Tyler H (Member # 383) on August 25, 2004, 08:56 PM:

"feed on someone elses inability to keep pace with me."
" reveling in their failures."
That's an enteresting, although less than generous personal philosophy on "contests" and competitors.
BTW, you've been invited too.
Posted by Rich. I forgot to log Tyler out.

[ August 25, 2004, 08:58 PM: Message edited by: Tyler H ]

Posted by 22-250 (Member # 36) on August 25, 2004, 09:13 PM:

Sorry posted to the old link. I will be there.

Posted by NASA (Member # 177) on August 25, 2004, 09:33 PM:

Rich, you're right. After I posted I went back to edit it to make sure no one thought I was slamming contests. But that's how I would feel about myself, not how I feel towards competitors.
I enjoy spectating and seeing the results, just never have been compelled to participate. No offense implied, OK? I even play chess against myself, lol.

[ August 25, 2004, 09:42 PM: Message edited by: NASA ]

Posted by Rich Higgins (Member # 3) on August 25, 2004, 10:05 PM:

" I even play chess against myself, lol."
LOL. Who usually wins?
Tom, sometimes it makes sense to compete against one other than yourself. How embarrassing to get knocked out while shadow boxing. [Smile]

Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on August 25, 2004, 10:51 PM:

quote:
After I posted I went back to edit it to make sure no one thought I was slamming contests.

AND, IN THE NICK OF TIME! MY FINGER WAS ON THE BUTTON! [Wink]

Nah, I'm pulling your leg, Tom. You're in the wrong place for value judgements. I don't care about personal philosphies that differ from my own....wait a minute, I just remembered one. You don't use a needle gun, do you?

Good hunting. LB

[ August 25, 2004, 10:52 PM: Message edited by: Leonard ]

Posted by Cal Taylor (Member # 199) on August 26, 2004, 06:27 AM:

I like contests, and have done good at some, and had to eat alot of humble pie at others.
Everybody has their reasoning for liking or not liking contests, but my hat is off to the guys that actually have the cajones to enter up. Especially if you have been around a while and are "known" for having a little ability. It's one thing to show up and not do well if no one knows who you are, but to hang it out there when every one knows you takes some confidence, and you also need to have a good enough attitude to accept defeat occasionally. I have alot less use for the "experts" that are afraid to compete and show what they really can do.

Posted by NASA (Member # 177) on August 26, 2004, 07:32 AM:

All good points, but for me it has nothing to do with fear of competing or fear of losing. Hey, I've been divorced twice, and had to start from the bottom 3 times. I'm older than Danny and my latest ex is trying to take my meager retirement pay from me. No, fear is not the issue.

Leonard, no needle guns here. As for "value judgements", I set my standards for myself, not for the rest of the world. I don't try to please, and I don't expect to BE pleased. Nothing complicated about me, I'm just a simple guy.

[ August 26, 2004, 07:41 AM: Message edited by: NASA ]

Posted by onecoyote (Member # 129) on August 26, 2004, 10:06 AM:

NASA, you're older then me at 3-5 43? Dang lol [Wink]

Personally I miss the competition days. After all those years of doing it, I had made a lot of good friends and have many great memories. Oh yeah, I won alot of trophies too lol [Wink]

Posted by Cal Taylor (Member # 199) on August 26, 2004, 10:20 AM:

Nasa, I hope you know that I wasn't refering to you personally. I just have heard alot of excuses from many different people as to why they don't enter contests. Most of the time they claim it to not be fair one way or another or that all contest hunters are cheats etc.. I personally don't think there is much in the way of cheating at the bigger contests, but maybe it runs rampant at the smaller ones. Some guys just don't want to work that hard, and thats OK too, but the guys that say they are among the best, but have a problem with contest hunts make me wonder if maybe they are just a little hypocritical. How can you judge yourself among the best if there is no way to compare yourself to other hunters.

Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on August 26, 2004, 10:39 AM:

Danny, I'm older than you, too. Remember? Hey, you need to write me with a valid email address.

Cal, I love the contest hunts; always to win.

There are a lot of well knowns that won't risk losing.

I challenge you, and slap your face, be there at the HM hunt, or risk being called a chicken. [Smile]

Good hunting.

Posted by Krustyklimber (Member # 72) on August 26, 2004, 10:51 AM:

Okay, I think some things need clarification...

I never turned down any invitation to this Huntmaster's Hunt... I never was invited to that, it's still pretty unclear, to many, who has been invited (it seems).

I believe I was actually invited to go play with one of the "big boys"...

Yes this was a most gracious offer, lol but on the one hand a little pessimistic (sarcasm)... I have actually had a really good beginning to this year.
I have called in a bobcat, a bear, a mt lion, two coyotes, and a couple of unseen bush/branch crunchers... just in the last month or so.
We don't have any foxes or I think I could have at least called in a grand slam, plus a bear.

I hope not to need to go to Arizona to have measurable success, I hope to feel successful here on the criteria I listed above, fun, education, and safety.

I didn't think the "body count" was about contests when I mentioned it... ya gotta be able to walk before you can get in a footrace... so contests don't even come into my mind at all.

It was about getting that first one.
Which is something that is way more important to you guys, than it is for me.
I don't really care anymore, if I kill any that is.

It's about the journey now, not about the destination.

Krusty

Posted by Cal Taylor (Member # 199) on August 26, 2004, 11:03 AM:

I'd be there in a minute if there was any possible way. Win, Lose, or Draw, I wouldn't care. But my Outfitting business might suffer a little if I didn't keep prior comitments.

Posted by Cal Taylor (Member # 199) on August 26, 2004, 11:13 AM:

Krusty, We all have to measure our success in whatever way suits us personally. But to me a called animal that isn't killed is a failure. That means that even though my calling was good enough to get an animal in, I wasn't set up right to handle it when the animal got there. Either I was in the wrong place, my shooting wasn't up to par, or whatever else the excuse for not taking that animal. That to me is the biggest part of my calling. I know that I can get animals in, the most important part to me is being able to put the rest into effect with no mistakes. But thats just me personally.

Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on August 26, 2004, 11:26 AM:

That's an excellent way of putting it, Cal. I couldn't agree more. If I don't kill the animal, the stand is a dismal failure, regardless of how many come romping in.

Good hunting. LB

Posted by NASA (Member # 177) on August 26, 2004, 11:44 AM:

Quote, "A called animal that isn't killed is a failure".

When you're in the business of killing animals, that is a hard and fast criteria. People who are fur hunters, ADC, or guide service providers have the pressure of "performance expectations" from clients or self-imposed demands.

For the recreational caller (photog, week-end hunter) that kind of "failure" is a little easier to take, I suppose. We have the luxury of measuring success on a less demanding scale. [Wink]

Posted by Rich Higgins (Member # 3) on August 26, 2004, 12:02 PM:

I am a dismal failure on almost every stand. I'll think about that later to see if I'm depressed. Gonna miss you Cal. This one will be fun.

Posted by NASA (Member # 177) on August 26, 2004, 12:53 PM:

You beat me to it Rich! I was going to amend my post to say something like, "I'm glad Rich and Tyler don't feel that obligated". I wouldn't have hours of call manipulation videos to study if they did. [Big Grin]

Posted by Krustyklimber (Member # 72) on August 26, 2004, 01:01 PM:

Cal,

I am glad I don't hold myself up to your standards, it would have been a lot harder to continue to the point I am at now.

So if in the 1% of the time that I am seeing critters, that is a dismal failure... how bad are the other 99% of my stands where nothing at all came in, or was seen?
A lion, cold called, but not in season, is failure?
Or a coyote coming to the call, but passed on at a bear stand?

The point to me isn't whether or not I had complete success, ie a dead critter. It's about whether or not I can figure out what I didn't do right, so that the next time I can do it right (if I did anything wrong at all, sometimes critters break the rules).
How am I just "supposed to know" how to handle a coyote?

You can look at me as a failure if you want to, that's not the way I see myself.
I just haven't had success yet.

I am not a failure, in my own eyes, until I give up.
I am a failure if I continue to make the same mistakes, without learning why I repeat them.

Krusty

Posted by Cal Taylor (Member # 199) on August 26, 2004, 01:01 PM:

Ah. but Rich, you still have a goal in mind when you call in that animal, though it might be a picture or some filming time. I'm sure you would be dissapointed with a busted stand for a mistake you made and you didn't get to do any filming. My guess is that on a stand where you film a coyote for several minutes you know that if you had a rifle and wanted that coyote dead, it would have happened. I guess I should have stated it that way, my goal is a dead coyote, and if I don't acheive my goals I feel that I have failed in some way. If I didn't set up in the right place and a coyote gets in in a way that I can't get him killed or if I happen to miss. Probably the worst would be the miss, and yes, it happens. Thank God pretty rarely.

[ August 26, 2004, 01:02 PM: Message edited by: Cal Taylor ]

Posted by Cal Taylor (Member # 199) on August 26, 2004, 01:13 PM:

Krusty, I'm not being critical of you and your personal standards with what makes you happy. I was just pointing out my personal feelings about myself. As far as stands where nothing comes, maybe nothing was there to come, and you can't consider that a failure. I was just refering to having a coyote in sight, and if that was the intended target, and for whatever reason it didn't work out, then something went wrong. And if thats the case then a mistake was made somehow. And we all make them, I just was stating that for me personally I am not happy when I make mistakes. Not happy at all. As for the lion being out of season, I thought it was shot at anyway. Even if I was doing it illegally, and I missed, I'd still be pissed.

Posted by Krustyklimber (Member # 72) on August 26, 2004, 01:27 PM:

Cal,

Okay that makes more sense.

I guess I haven't really known for sure, or been clear what my goals are.
At first my main goal was just to call in some critters, and to actually see them, to verify I and my calls were capable of even doing that.
Before I decided to quit selling calls, it was very important that I had killed some kind of predators, my business to a degree depended on it, and may have failed in part because of my lack of proven reputation as "a killer".

My main and only goal anymore, is to call in some critters so my brother can shoot them.
I didn't even purchase a hunting license, or carry a gun until bear season this year, and I am considering leaving my gun at home and carrying my camera gear after it's over.

I think you are also looking at the whole thing with the eyes of a soloist... you hunt alone, the whole game is all on you.

The lion is a good example, I was hunting with a partner, my goal was to cover my half of a circle of woods, and to call something in.
I succeeded in doing that.

My partner's goal was to kill some animal that came, he did not, and he was pissed.

What about you and your clients?
If you take a guy out to call him some coyotes, so he can kill them... you call them in, he does not kill them...
Did you fail?

Krusty

[ August 26, 2004, 01:44 PM: Message edited by: Krustyklimber ]

Posted by NASA (Member # 177) on August 26, 2004, 01:45 PM:

Cal, you're too nice of a guy to be so hard on yourself. [Big Grin]

Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on August 26, 2004, 01:53 PM:

Krusty, you're too...(fill in the blank) to ..

(fill in the blank)

We got it, man! Are you coming, or ain't cha? I heard some of these guys are standing in line, to kic....I mean, shake your hand.

Me too. LB

Ronde rule # 1

no hugs

[ August 26, 2004, 01:53 PM: Message edited by: Leonard ]

Posted by Cal Taylor (Member # 199) on August 26, 2004, 01:55 PM:

Krusty, I hunt with others alot, but usually with guys that have the same mindset. I don't take some of my best friends calling with me, because either they can't be quiet, sit still, or shoot. As far as hunters I quit taking most
paying coyote hunts a couple years ago because I couldn't take someone screwing up a slam dunk deal. I have some guys I will take anytime.

NASA, I'm sure that by reading most of what you have wrote over the last year or two that you are pretty goal oriented and I doubt that you like screw ups either. (Your own especially)

Posted by NASA (Member # 177) on August 26, 2004, 02:15 PM:

Right, Cal. Goal oriented, but not always goal driven. I've learned to adapt to situations, shift priorieties, and adjust expectations. I had to. I used to be a classic Type-A personality, until my first heart attack.

There are two cardinal features of Type-A, namely, "time urgency or impatience" and "pervasive and ever-present hostility." I wasn't just hostile to others, but myself as well.

So rather than be terminally pissed (or just terminal) I learned to tailor my goals. If it takes 3 increments (instead of 1) to achieve it, that's acceptable because I'll live to enjoy it.

So now instead of always being pissed when something goes wrong, I'm just a little disappointed. Usually. [Big Grin]

Posted by Krustyklimber (Member # 72) on August 26, 2004, 02:38 PM:

Leonard,

I'm too _______ to ______...

Ya got me??? [Razz]

As far as going to Arizona, for the Huntmasters' Hunt or for Tim's awesome invitation, it just isn't going to happen.

Cal,

See, I guess that's that main difference between you and me... you hunt with guys because of their hunting skills, and will bypass a friend because he lacks these skills.
I got into this to spend time hunting with my brother, and neither of us had any real skills when we started.
I haven't even had my turn at screwing up a slam dunk yet, so I sure can't hold it against Red if he does.

Krusty

Posted by Tim Behle (Member # 209) on August 26, 2004, 04:47 PM:

quote:
You don't use a needle gun, do you?

Leonard,

Remember how impressed you were with Vic's running shot from his .19 last year? Just wait until I show you what my .17 can do this year!

I'm with Cal when calling for myself, a successful stand ends in at least one dead coyote. When I'm calling for someone else, my criteria is completely different. Then my goal is to stop a coyote broadside to the shooter at under fifty yards. 25 yards if I am calling for a kid with a shotgun.

Tom you are right on the money when you say life is too short to die young. I want to live to be as old as Danny. ( Wouldn't that put me in the Guinness book of records or something?)

Posted by Lonny (Member # 19) on August 26, 2004, 05:00 PM:

Krusty,

I think as time goes on and you hunt more you will find out what type of partners you like to hunt with. When you first start hunting its usually just enough to get out no matter who its with. As you hunt more, and gain experience, its only natural to gravitate to others who share your same goals. It doesn't mean your turning your back on your friends. For example, I have friends who hunt but I wouldn't hunt with them because they are more interested in killing a half gallon of whiskey than actually hunting, or they are more interested in sleeping in, cooking big breakfasts, and playing cards in camp. Heck, I have a brother in-law who spends a week in a hunting camp with a dozen of his buddies and they actually have a rule that anyone shooting any game is not invited back next year. Now, thats a serious bunch of hunters LOL.

So ya see Krusty, in my opinion its not so much bypassing friends as it is spending time with someone who wants to actually hunt and as is going to take it serious. I'd think you could relate with your climbing, I'd bet you've run across a guy or two who was all business in town but when you are halfway up some steep face and you find out the guy really doesn't have his shit together. You would probably think twice about going with that dude again. But he still might be a good friend.

Posted by Tyler H (Member # 383) on August 26, 2004, 05:07 PM:

Thank you Tim for those kind words. I dont know how many coyotes i have taken over my life time.I do know that i took my first coyote when i was 4 but i had to wait awhile to get my bobcat i think i was 11 thats probably because my dad does not get excited over them so we focus on coyotes. I dont know when i took my first fox though because i think i was to young to remember.

Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on August 26, 2004, 05:10 PM:

quote:
Cal, you're too nice of a guy to be so hard on yourself.

quote:
Krusty, you're too...(fill in the blank) to ..(fill in the blank)

Might be good for laughs?

Hey K, this is supposed to be a thread for those that intend to make the hunt.....not that I'm a stickler for rules.

Good hunting. LB

Posted by Norm (Member # 240) on August 26, 2004, 05:11 PM:

so getting away from reasons why we hunt or don't enter contests...

Tim, I agree, If I live to be as old as Leonard and Danny, it will have to be a record....

Tyler, what in the world are we going to eat?? there are none of your favorite fast food joints close the camping area? and I know beer and Tequila won't be sufficient nutrition for everyone...

I'll volunteer to help with the cooking and dishwashing so others can hunt and tell tall tales.... I'll even bring my chainsaw so that we can have fire wood... you would not believe how much wood was used last year trying to keep your dad warm...

Posted by Tim Behle (Member # 209) on August 26, 2004, 05:46 PM:

Hey Leonard!

A couple of friends of mine are talking about coming, but they are concerned about your "No Hugs" rule. [Frown]

Does that mean just you, or are they included too?

Posted by Norm (Member # 240) on August 26, 2004, 05:52 PM:

Tyler will be very interested in meeting your friends hugging needs....

Posted by Krustyklimber (Member # 72) on August 26, 2004, 05:53 PM:

quote:
Hey K, this is supposed to be a thread for those that intend to make the hunt.....not that I'm a stickler for rules.

Okay, sorry... I am outta here.

Lonny,

My point was I started hunting, to spend time with my best friend, my brother, not just to hunt.

Tyler,

I hope you know I think you deserve to go, regardless of body count. The people who are going are your friends, and I am sure they'd sorely miss you, if you weren't there.

I hope you all the best,

Krusty

Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on August 26, 2004, 06:02 PM:

Tim, I just screwed up and accidently sent that post to your wife! Gulp.

haha, Huggy Boy.

(anyone remember him?)

I didn't, really.

Krusty, no offense, dude.

Good hunting. LB

Posted by NASA (Member # 177) on August 26, 2004, 06:44 PM:

Well, I can bring some kind of dead animal to throw on the grill. [Razz]

If everyone brought some sort of one pot meal for heat-n-eat, plus some junk food to go with the tequila, we should be OK. It's only a coupla' days, right?

Tim, nice job of air brushing. [Big Grin]

Huggy Boy? The "new" guy? Try this. Did you ever go to Dolphin's of Hollywood at the corner of Vernon and Central to request an on-air dedication, in person, from Hunter Hancock? Anybody remember KPOP and Huntin' with Hunter?

[ August 26, 2004, 07:18 PM: Message edited by: NASA ]

Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on August 26, 2004, 07:31 PM:

No No, my friend, it was Art Laboe KPOP at Schrivner's Drive-In, with dedications, afternoons; circa 1957.

Man, what a dinosaur!

Dead animal on the grill? What A Good Idea. How about an Iron Man Contest? Whoever can eat the most coyote steak. Umm!

[ August 26, 2004, 07:36 PM: Message edited by: Leonard ]

Posted by Norm (Member # 240) on August 26, 2004, 07:50 PM:

Leonard, I am not against cooking it... you get to be the first one to eat. I have plenty of seasonings... I can even find some tenderizing solutions....

Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on August 26, 2004, 07:55 PM:

Friggin A. Bring it ON! What does not kill me, makes me stronger.

Posted by Norm (Member # 240) on August 26, 2004, 08:02 PM:

Well, you have seen it in black and white... A coyote steak for Leonard...

Tim, you be searching for a nice fat coyote off of some dead pile somewhere... we will skin it so that the meat can cool properly...

I can't wait to watch Gerry's face as Leonard chews on that steak... [Big Grin]

Tyler, you will be responsible for filming this event in order to support the written commitment....

Posted by NASA (Member # 177) on August 26, 2004, 08:12 PM:

Norm, might get lucky and find some pre-tenderized portions out on the I-10. I have a receipe for Korean Bo Shin Tong that might make AZ yote easier to swallow. [Eek!]

Posted by keekee (Member # 367) on August 26, 2004, 08:17 PM:

I dont know about eating no dang coyote, But The two girls in Tim's pic can sleep in my tent with the beer and Tequila!

Kee

Posted by Tyler H (Member # 383) on August 26, 2004, 09:15 PM:

keekee bad news the pics are of jimmy and johnny banger two drag queens from tucson. more bad news they WILL be sleeping in your tent.

Posted by keekee (Member # 367) on August 26, 2004, 10:14 PM:

LMAO!!!! Oh well....cant win them all!

I should of new something like that was coming!

Kee

Posted by onecoyote (Member # 129) on August 27, 2004, 06:04 AM:

All you guys are NUTS lol. Leonard, you know I remember Art Laboe, didn't he have also have a tv show at one time? Man that was a long time ago. Leonard, did you know they even had a song about El Monte. Funny thing. I ask people here in New Mexico if they know where the end of the Santa Fe trail is, nobody knows except us lol.

Posted by NASA (Member # 177) on August 28, 2004, 07:14 AM:

I had always thought the Santa Fe Trail ran from Franklin, MO, to Santa Fe, NM, from 1821 to 1880. Is there something the history books left out? [Wink]

Posted by onecoyote (Member # 129) on August 28, 2004, 08:08 AM:

NASA, El Monte was always known as the end of the Santa Fe trail, but I believe there was more then one trail lol [Wink]

I know where Happy trails is [Big Grin]

Posted by NASA (Member # 177) on August 28, 2004, 08:49 AM:

Who knew? [Confused]

I lived in South El Monte for 5 years and didn't.
El Monte was the Western end of the 2900 mile Santa Fe Trail, and on the Butterfield stage route. http://www.nichibeistudygroup.com/elmonte.html

Now, Happy Trails though.... [Big Grin]

Posted by Randy Buker (Member # 134) on August 28, 2004, 09:30 AM:

Not everyone can be good enough to use a "needle gun." But, we who are, certainly don't hold it against you Leonard. One has to do what one has to do to make up for shortcomings. [Big Grin]

Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on August 28, 2004, 09:51 AM:

Just so you folks don't miss this link:

http://home.earthlink.net/~jackbarton/ElMonteHistory.htm

This man, Jack Barton was the best teacher I ever had, I last saw him at our 40th reunion, in 2000, and he died the following year. He became the Principle at El Monte High School, although I didn't know it for many years, after I left.

When Danny and I lived there, the population was around 13,000, and now it is in the neighborhood of 100,000. The demographics have changed from predominately lower middle class "okies" to 95% hispanic, with the rest asian. Over 90% at the High School speak english as a second language.

Boy, do times change.

Thanks, NASA. At least for me, that was a trip down memory lane!

Good hunting. LB

Also, I know "Lexington" only as one of the streets in El Monte, didn't know it was once considered as/for the name of the city?

Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on August 28, 2004, 10:55 AM:

Randy Buker
Member
Member # 134

posted August 28, 2004 09:30 AM
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"Not everyone can be good enough to use a "needle gun." But, we who are, certainly don't hold it against you Leonard. One has to do what one has to do to make up for shortcomings."

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Randy, you are becoming an anachronism, no less than the K.H.D. himself, admits his errors. (read on, dude)

http://www.huntmastersbbs.com/cgi-ubb/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=000358

(I'm open for another interpretation)

Good hunting. LB

edit: there is a thread on the darkside that illuminates more fully, but I don't want to deprive you of the joy of discovery! Find it yourself.... [Smile]

[ August 28, 2004, 11:03 AM: Message edited by: Leonard ]

Posted by Randy Buker (Member # 134) on August 28, 2004, 06:12 PM:

Hell, I don't even know what an anachronism is. All I can assume is that it means I'm really good with a "needle gun." HA HA. [Big Grin]

And if you ever compare me with the KHD again, I'll have to drive out there and,... and... and... Well, I'll figure something out.

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