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Posted by Locohead (Member # 15) on April 09, 2004, 11:31 AM:
Which is your most successful month hunting coyotes? and Why?
(I would think this topic to of already been covered a time or seventeen, but I may have called in sick that day.) ![[Wink]](wink.gif)
Posted by Cal Taylor (Member # 199) on April 09, 2004, 12:38 PM:
I think it can vary quite a little from year to year, depending on prey base and weather. The best time is always when the pups are dispursing, and that seems to vary. Some years, it seems like October and other years it is into December and January. This years dispersal was real late here.
Posted by Steve Craig (Member # 12) on April 09, 2004, 12:41 PM:
Best 30 day period came in 1982 while working the Navajo Res. I trapped and hunted the month of Jan killing 247 coyotes in that 30 day period. My records show 84 were called in and the rest were trapped. I also took 57 red fox and 7 of them were called. 46 grey fox were taken and 20 were called. 20 bobcats were taken and 3 were called. I also caught 3 Kit fox as well in traps.
My coyotes AVEARGED $87.50 that year from the Res. for a total of $20,612.50 All furs were sold to Dominion/Sudak Fur auctions in Canada. I had one coyote top out at $130!
Reds from the Res AVERAGED $61.12 for a total of $3483.84
Greys AVERAGED $47.25 for a total of $2173.50
Bobcats AVERAGED $335.75 for a total of $6715.00
Grand total of: $32,984.84
I grossed right at $1100.00 per day
Called animals were 114 in 30 days for a 3.8 animals taken per day. and that comes to about $325.00 per day gross. It was not bad wages back then for a Professional Hunter and Trapper. I grossed more that month than I did the previous year.I show my expences for the trip were just under $3000.00 not counting truck wear and tear, traps,calls, etc. It was hard work, but very rewarding ,interesting, and a learning experience. If I knew then what I know now......... its hard telling what I could have done.
Steve
P.S. 1983 was almost as good but less coyotes and more bobcats taken. I doubled my cat catch in 83.
[ April 09, 2004, 01:06 PM: Message edited by: Steve Craig ]
Posted by Q-Wagoner (Member # 33) on April 09, 2004, 01:00 PM:
Are you hunting day or night or both? Do you want fur or do you just want #s? Would denning numbers count and how old would the pups have to be before they would count? For a guy just looking to kill I would think August would be the best for numbers? Don’t really know.
It depends how much pressure the coyotes have been under also. Typically the earlier the better; Late August through September would probably be the best months to pick up big numbers. September marks the beginning of dispersal so you have a lot of fresh-eared pups running around. In my area no one hunts them at all that I know of until the fur primes up in late October early November. With no competition and a high coyote population a hunter could probably kill a ton of coyotes in September.
If the same coyotes had not been called to until December then December would be much better. Because of the cold and less food availability they would respond better to calls. It is rarely the case though that you can find a large enough pocket of coyotes that hasn’t been called to by December to have a record month. By that time here everything has been pounded pretty hard.
In my area November is the big month. If you don’t get a big kill in November you will struggle the rest of the season. It is the fur season that brings out the big guns of coyote calling so you had better make hay while you can or somebody else will. Year in and year out I can count on killing at least half of the coyotes I take for the entire season in the first thirty days of hunting. If I were just a killer looking for body counts I would hunt them from July through March and would expect my biggest months to be the early ones.
Good hunting.
Q,
Posted by Krustyklimber (Member # 72) on April 09, 2004, 03:11 PM:
Best 30 days?
The 30 I actually go hunting... so far no month has ever been a success, so I have to find some other thing to base "best" on.
Krusty 
Posted by Rob (Member # 75) on April 09, 2004, 03:21 PM:
June is my favorite month to call...for sheer numbers you can't beat September ![[Smile]](smile.gif)
Posted by Q-Wagoner (Member # 33) on April 09, 2004, 03:25 PM:
Is it krustyklimber or krusty crier? Damnit man, I am about ready to send you a plain ticket to my house so I can take you out to shoot a coyote! I think it would be worth the money just so I wouldn’t have to hear you whining all the time. LOL
Good hunting.
Q,
Posted by Tim Behle (Member # 209) on April 09, 2004, 03:50 PM:
Q,
That's not a bad idea, but if he shoots and misses, I'd make him walk back home.
Posted by Krustyklimber (Member # 72) on April 09, 2004, 05:21 PM:
Excuse me Q! Sheesh... I am not whining about it, just stating the facts. ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif)
And I did say that any day I go is the best for me.. I said I have to find other things to base best days on, besides dead critters... like the fact that my brother and I have a good time together, he's my best friend, and when we're old men we won't have to regret not spending time together... like my dad now does about my uncle who passed away suddenly.
And the name thing... I am Krusty, a climber, that's what my friends call me.
And Krusty Kriers (the name of the calls I make) is kinda of play on words, because so many of you guys percieve me as a whiner... Krusty's Krybabies was another option.
Most of what might come across as whining, is me poking fun at myself.
Actually if you were to hunt with me, here or there, you'd find out that I don't get very disheartened by it all... I know that when it finally comes my way it'll be all that much sweeter because I will really have earned it.
If it was easy it wouldn't be much fun now would it.
Hunting is just for fun.
I actually spend most of my hunting days happy... glad I am not working, more glad I am not home mowing the lawn, and even more glad I have not given up... I am actually quite proud of the fact I haven't thrown in the towel... I dunno how many others would have gone 200+ blank stands and kept trying.
The saying really is true... the worst days hunting are still better than the best days working.
The 30 or so days I do hunt each year, really are the best 30 days I hunt.
You keep your money, the last thing I need is your pity.
Krusty
P.S. I'd rather have you come out here... so when you get skunked I can laugh at you for crying about how tough the hunting is here... leave your long range rifle and yer rangefinder at home... bring #2 hevi-shot and a quick swingin' shotgun and RAINGEAR. And prepare to be humbled by the mountain coyote!
[ April 09, 2004, 05:38 PM: Message edited by: Krustyklimber ]
Posted by Q-Wagoner (Member # 33) on April 09, 2004, 05:35 PM:
Just busting your balls Krusty and I don’t pity you either. Heck I admire anyone who would stick it out for 200 blank stands. You are a better man than I. If I went 200 stands with out a dead coyote you would probably find me swinging in the closet. LOL
Good hunting.
Q,
Posted by Cdog911 (Member # 7) on April 09, 2004, 05:44 PM:
Dang, Q, I was gonna say that after this year, it was obviously the days immediately before and immediately after the days I was in the field, because the days I was there sure sucked. But, after that next to last post, I'll just skip this one.
Posted by Krustyklimber (Member # 72) on April 09, 2004, 05:53 PM:
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But, after that next to last post, I'll just skip this one
Huh? What's that about?
Krusty
Sorry Loco, didn't mean to put a damper on yer thread, I'd just delete the whole thing, but that's not my style.
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on April 09, 2004, 06:03 PM:
Yeah, let's bring it up for a vote. Collection to send Krusty to Nebraska for the purpose of popping his cherry; that would be money well spent!
Back to the subject. I've said it before. Nevada, best month for shear numbers is September, hands down. Arizona, I'd vote for December.
Good hunting. LB
Posted by Rich Higgins (Member # 3) on April 09, 2004, 07:22 PM:
Last half of Aug. first half of Sept. Although still bonded to the family unit the pups are becoming venturesome and beginning to explore on their own. At this time coyote populations are the highest of the year and multiple responses to the call are more common now. Pup mortality is going to be brutally quick at this point and studies have shown that 40% of the pups don't survive this time. The adults are ranging further from the denning and rendevous areas and reestablishing their defended borders. More coyotes and more coyotes on the move mean more coyotes answering the call.
Posted by Jack Roberts (Member # 13) on April 09, 2004, 10:27 PM:
I am off to Montana next week, mostly for PDs and ground squirrels. But I will take my calls with me.
Jack
Posted by Locohead (Member # 15) on April 12, 2004, 11:09 AM:
$33K in one month??? And for hunting no less??? Yeah, I'd say it was a successful 30 days. I'll bet it was a success Krusty's way too. Sounds like a wonderful 30 days!!!!
P.S. Is there any way to convert $33k in 1982 to 2004 dinero?
[ April 12, 2004, 11:11 AM: Message edited by: Locohead ]
Posted by Terry Hunter (Member # 58) on April 12, 2004, 05:33 PM:
Oct 15 to nov 15.Before the middle of oct it's too hot.After the middle of nov the deer gun season opens.
Posted by Steve Craig (Member # 12) on April 12, 2004, 08:20 PM:
Loco,
My records also show that out of 50 trapping permits that the Tribe issued each season, mine was #2. A good friend from Farmington had the #1 license. I had the whole dang Res to myself! Coyotes were dumb as rocks to trap and call. I thought I had died and went to heaven when I got to looking at all the sign. There may have been some more licenes's sold later, but I doubt it. Never saw another white man while there except in town or at a trading post. Never had a trap stolen either. Everyday at the trading post where I bought my gas, 3 or 4 Navajo's would wait for me to show up and would ask me to come trap "their" coyotes! I must say that trip was one of my all time favorites as far as having fun and making a few bucks as well.
As far as best 30 day period to call coyotes now...... have to say end of Aug to end of Sept would be first choice, then mid Nov to Dec second choice. Then May to june. Some years, they switch from #1 to # 2 etc., with Nov-Dec being best. Maybe it is because I hunt more in Nov-Dec.
Steve
Posted by UTcaller (Member # 8) on April 13, 2004, 01:46 PM:
Best Month to call numbers of coyotes.For me it has always been September.Best month if I'm specifically after the fur is mid November to mid December.GOOD HUNTING C.O
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