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Topic: I need to vent!
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Bryan J
Cap and Trade Weenie
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posted March 21, 2004 10:24 PM
It has been a couple of months since I have been out to this area. The last time I was here this sign was intact. This area gets hit hard by both predator hunters and rabbit hunters. I rounded this corner and was furious. I have been thinking of doing a piece condemning this type of behavior for coldnosed.com but have decided to post a picture here. It would get more exposure I think. It will also give others a chance to distance themselves from and condemn this unsportsmanlike like behavior.
If the culprit is lurking in the shadows watch it. If I see you doing this I carry a pen and paper for license plate numbers. I also have a couple of cameras and a cell phone. I will drop the dime and your conviction will be my reward. I hope the SOB didn’t almost get away! I hope this demonstration of marksmanship was challenging for you.
I know it wasn’t a HM member that did this. Thanks for letting me vent guys and gals. It just pisses me off when I get lumped in with these folks just because I have a gun in the truck! It is stuff like this that closed BE county to night hunting. It is also why every truck that stops to ask permission to hunt is looked over suspiciously.
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Rich Higgins
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posted March 22, 2004 04:46 AM
Bryan, I'm surprised you didn't find beer cans and other trash with all the shot shell hulls.
That behavior taints all of us.
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Crow Woman
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posted March 22, 2004 05:52 AM
Absolutely Disgusting!!! It is stuff like that, that gives us a bad image ![[Frown]](frown.gif)
Two of my neighbors have diversion ditches that need to be fixed because of someone thinking the hay fields were a race strip for their pick-up truck last fall. The access to the fields now is chained and locked.
You rarely see public signs shot up around here. Now wise *ss putting quarter sticks of dynamite in mailboxs late at night or some idiot hanging out of a moving car with a baseball bat trying not to miss a mailbox, that's what you mostly see around here.
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Cdog911
"There are some ideas so absurd only an intellectual could believe them."--George Orwell.
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posted March 22, 2004 06:23 AM
CW,
One of my landowners had that problem. Kid kept driving thru and over his mailbox. So, he set a five-inch OD pipe in concrete so about twenty inches of it was sticking up, then he slid a wood pole into that, atop which was his mailbox. Painted the whole thing to look uniform and waited for the weekend. He siad that the sound of tearing steel woke him up. The top of the pipe was just high enough to fold the bumper, grab the radiator, oil pan, bell housing and about half the driveline of this car. Last time that happened.
Bryan,
Sadly, the guys that did that aren't hunters. They're vandals. The kind of guys that don't know enough to hunt and find critters, so they resort to other less chanlleging "game".
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Rob
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posted March 22, 2004 09:51 AM
A local rancher who allowed public access year-round for camping,fishing,and hunting closed his land this past hunting season after someone hooked a tow chain to the porch of an ole cabin and pulled it down for campfire wood.This family had been allowing public access to their property since the 40's. It only takes one a$$hole.
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Weedwacker
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posted March 22, 2004 03:51 PM
You are not alone. In this area you can't drive for very long without seeing bullet holes in the road signs. What's really disturbing is when there is a house or barn strait downrange, which is often. This Fall some of the guys at my conservation club poured concrete and built an awesome covered shooting pavillion and an outhouse at the range. Since it was becoming a great facility they fixed up a gate and pad-locked it, giving the combo to members only. In less than one month someone had shot holes through the handicapped parking sign and there was a 12GA slug hole through both sides of the outhouse going strait toward the road. What is wrong with people!!!!! ![[Mad]](mad.gif)
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Lonny
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posted March 22, 2004 04:52 PM
I thought all the dipsh!ts who did that sort of thing lived in Idaho! Between camping, hunting, and just being out in the hills I see so much of this sort of behavior it makes me sick.
A few years ago the wife and I took a drive up through Alberta and British Columbia. While driving in Canada I noticed these impressive signs that were in the shape of an elk to let you know when you were in a game crossing area of highway. To my surprise none of the elk crossing signs had bullet holes in them. I mentioned to the wife that back in the states these elk shaped signs would be shot to hell in a week. She agreed.
On the same trip we pulled into a campground to stretch for a bit and I was amazed to see at least a cord of firewood split and stacked for campers who stayed there to use. That would have been gone the first night at home. The bathrooms, picnic tables, etc. were all in excellent condition and not carved full of graffiti. There was not a single soul camping at this campground when we stopped.
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Bryan J
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posted March 22, 2004 11:07 PM
Well as fate would have it one of Box Elder Counties Finest came in the shop today. I pulled up this thread and showed him the picture. He printed it off and took it back to the office with him. There isn’t much we can do without an eyewitness but now they know it is going on. He thanked me and asked for me and my friends to keep our eyes open.
The neighboring private property has had similar problems. In the past it has been the same group. They could prove it by cases left at the scene and matched bullets. They got those guys.
Rich, I was surprised there weren’t beer bottles everywhere too. It kind of has me leaning toward unsupervised youngsters. Most likely out to shoot rabbits and like Cdog said couldn’t find any.
The part that is sad is the fact that it is such a small percentage of people that act this way. Like Rob said it only takes ONE to ruin it for everyone.
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Randy Buker
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posted March 23, 2004 04:51 AM
And, it get's worse.
A few years ago I lost access to a favorite ranch in North Dakota because someone thought it would be fun to go bison hunting. Killed a 12 year old bull worth thousands and left it lay. I'd have loved to be a witness to that.
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Leonard
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posted March 23, 2004 03:44 PM
....yeah, we get even more than our share, in our part of the country.
Who does it? Wow, I sure wish I knew the answer. It must be a certain type of individual? Not serious sportsmen. Probably not a specific age group? I think they will always do it, like child molesters. Never quit. Some people are just plain rotten.
Good hunting. LB
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Bryan J
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posted March 27, 2004 11:35 AM
I don’t know who they are or if they fit into a certain profile. I assume that they were 16-20 year olds. That is just my opinion.
I was talking to the deputy that happened to come in to the shop that day. He told me of a couple of guys that got caught shooting a cow out in the same general area. He said that they are still buying the calves that the cow would have produced and will continue to do so for several years. He said that total fines and restitution came to around $200,000. They also lost their guns and truck.
In this case it is destruction of federal property. Did these vandals commit a felony? Did they jeopardize their right to keep and bare arms? At the very least this is a crime committed with a gun. I think so.
I think the problem is that when something like this happens, and the investigating officers get the bad guy and the book gets thrown at them the media doesn’t publicize the consequences. If those doing this truly love their firearms and knew that they were putting their future ownership of them at risk they would think twice before they did something like this, maybe not. Those are just my thoughts and feelings. Thanks for letting me vent.
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Locohead
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posted March 27, 2004 11:53 AM
Good Assessment Bryan. Thanks for sharing! ![[Smile]](smile.gif)
Those kids...
What a couple of Doe-Doe Brains!!!!
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