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Dezertyote
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posted January 13, 2004 03:01 PM
I thought you fellas might enjoy this site, especially you guys in the warm south.
www.mountwashington.org
Thursday will be the time to check out the hourly temps. and the wind volocity. I checked at 5:00 tonight and the readings were.....
Temp. -14.5
winds steady at 84 mph. with gusts up to 96mph
I should of stayed in Az. ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif)
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onecoyote
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posted January 13, 2004 04:34 PM
Dezertyote, Mt Washington is for sure a windy and cold place at 6,288' but it also has a weather station. We have a mountian that's 14,494' and has no weather station. I'd be welling to bet the wind is over 100 mph lots of times and it's probably -100 now and then on a real cold day lol. I wonder what it's like on top of that 20,000 footer in Alaska in the middle of the winter......Yikesssssss lol.
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Norm
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posted January 13, 2004 05:30 PM
Mt Washington is a long way from Vermont...
It is a beautiful hike in April though...
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Leonard
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posted January 13, 2004 05:40 PM
What I know about Mt Washington could be placed in Norm's miniature thimble. ![[Smile]](smile.gif)
It took me a long time on that site to figure out that it is located somewhere in New England, which, I believe(?) is in the eastern United States.
To me, Mt Washington is a neighborhood in Los Angeles. lol
Did I read correctly? 238MPH, a world record?
Good hunting. LB
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Jack Roberts
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posted January 13, 2004 10:04 PM
Mt Washington has the worst recorded weather in the lower 48, mainly because recording stations on top of mountains are pretty rare. I can't think of a single station in Nevada on top of a mountain.
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onecoyote
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posted January 14, 2004 08:03 AM
Leonard, you were way off, it was 231 mph lol. Did you read the most snow they had was back in 1968&69 at 566.4 inches, now that's deep.
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Barndog
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posted January 14, 2004 10:18 AM
Weather stations are usually placed lower than the peaks of mountains, especially in Nevada, where they are concerend more about snowfall (water equivalent), for watershed values, which fuel water resources for agricultural purposes. For the most up to date snow information for Nevada and parts of California check out this website.
http://www.nv.nrcs.usda.gov/snow/snotel.html
It would be fun to have a station on the top of Mt. Wheeler (NV) 13,100 feet.
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Dezertyote
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posted January 14, 2004 10:27 AM
Danny,
Thats a lot of snow is right, but the typical snow fall for my area is 75-80 inches a season with heavy snow fall winters in the 120" range. The mtn. around me do get considerable more in the higher elevations.
I know there are mtn. in the west that are higher and maybe have worst weather? I wasn't comparing east and west, just trying to show the severe weather patterns mother nature deals up.
Norm, mtn Washington is about 50 miles as the crow flies from the vermont boarder, not to far.
23 below zero at my house this morning, not bad ![[Wink]](wink.gif) I heard that the weather in parts of Maine in the past 24 hrs.. they were getting minus 50 deg. wind chill, burrrrr
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MJM
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posted January 14, 2004 10:42 AM
When I was growing up in NY the weatherman always showed a picture of the weather conditions on Mt. Washington. It seemed like the wind was always blowing, it was always way way cold and the snow was deep. Never made much sence to me because most people don't live on the top of Mt. Washington, even when its cold and snowy.
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Barndog
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posted January 14, 2004 11:04 AM
All this talk about weather reminds me of a story.
An Indian tribal council asked the new Chief how much wood they should collect for winter. As a new Chief he did not know what to do. He decided to look on the internet for his area. The web claimed that the winter to come would be normal. So the Chief told the tribe to collect a little more than usual just to be on the safe side. When the tribe returned they asked the Chief if it was enough. Again the Chief was worried and did not want his people to suffer so he ounce again looked on the internet. This time the web said winter was going to be a little colder than normal. The Chief returned to his people and told them to collect more. When the tribe returned, again they asked if it were enough. Being neverous the Cheif again consulted the web and the web had again changed to expect a severe winter. So the Chief told his people to collect all the wood they could gather. When the tribe returned they asked if it were enough. Being the Chief's first winter he thought it safe to check the internet one last time, and the website said it was going to be the worst winter ever. The Chief was confused so he called the Internet weather man and asked how he knew it was going to be so bad this winter. The weather man replied "Because the Indians are collecting wood like crazy"
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Krustyklimber
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posted January 14, 2004 11:09 AM
Mt Washington is a very unique peak, (like Mt Rainier) it's close proximity to the ocean creates it's own incredible weather, considered even by Alaskan climbers very difficult and daunting.
Many peaks all over the world (including Nevada) have now, or have temporarliy had, weather stations atop of them... some where lost during the most fierce weather these peaks will see.
Mt Washington is very unique.
California's Mt Whitney, is mostly a rock scramble, for most of the year.
Winds there, in the protection of the desert thermals are quite mild... at least as high as the 10,000' level, where I whiffed out and turned back, I have lived at sea level for too long.
I have an online friend who has done the "Top 50" (highest mountain each of the 50 states) I'll have to ask him what he thought of Washington.
Danny, winter is the busy season on Denali (Mt McKinley) with some 1000 climbers and support team members, going through the Talkeetna Glaicer camp, a week.
We can get what's called a "cold lock" about mid Jan. through early April on our high coastal mountains. Where we can get a cold high pressure, and the skies clear.
But the important part for climbing a mountain is that it "puts on a hat", when there is enough moisture in the air that the frozen mountain creates it's own weather. Sheilding itself from the sun... the ice climbers enemy.
A stocking cap is best, as opposed to a baseball hat (where it looks like a bill on the hat). A baseball cap is indicative of high winds, the bill is the snow and ice being swept off the mountain to melt in the suns warmth.
I bet Mt Washington wears some really cool lookin' hats.
Because of the way the jetstream runs around the Northern hemishere, it is pretty much a given that no mountain on the east coast of an ocean will experience as severe of weather, winds in particular, as it's counterparts on it's western shores. Look at Alaska's mountains compared to Siberia's Urals.
In the Southern hemisphere it is the opposite, with Patagonia being more mild then the Himalaya.
I thought everybody knew this stuff...
I have probably spent almost as much time climbing/mountaineering as some of you ol duffers have chasin critters...
Krusty 
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Barndog
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posted January 14, 2004 01:34 PM
This is a cool hat
http://www.geocities.com/slfkc/bg.index.html
Click on Mountain hat
[ January 14, 2004, 02:43 PM: Message edited by: Barndog ]
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