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Author Topic: Is Coyote Also Plural (No "S")? Jay Nistetter Legalize Weed, Free the Dixie Chicks Member # 140 posted July 10, 2003 08:54 AM                    I have, on ocassion, noticed that many of the old-timers talk about "coyote" and sometimes they are talking about ONE coyote and other times they may be referring to a multitude of them just as in the case of DEER. Younger hunters seem to add the "S" at the end of "coyote" when talking about more than one. e.g. Several Coyote? or Several Coyotes? I shot 4 coyote. Or... I shot 4 coyotes. I once ate coyote. Or... I once ate a coyote. I suppose we could simpy resort to the Latin name of Lantris Canis Stupidicous but then I would wonder if we should add two "ii's" at the end. The dictionary indicates that both forms are correct, but I don't really like that answer. That tells me that one or the other form of the word was mis-used enough times that it became acceptable by general consensus. There's an old analogy that applies here, I'm sure. [ July 10, 2003, 08:56 AM: Message edited by: Jay Nistetter ] -------------------- Understanding the coyote is not as important as knowing where they are. I usually let the fur prime up before I leave 'em lay. Posts: 1006 | From: Arizona | Registered: Feb 2003  |  IP: Logged Leonard HMFIC Member # 2 posted July 10, 2003 09:46 AM                       Good observation, Jay! I'm surprised the King Hell Dictator hasn't jumped on this issue as another reason to ban his members.....there's no "we" in team; and no "S" in coyote, period! Good hunting. LB -------------------- EL BEE Knows It All and Done It All. Don't piss me off! Posts: 32361 | From: Upland, CA | Registered: Jan 2003  |  IP: Logged Jay Nistetter Legalize Weed, Free the Dixie Chicks Member # 140 posted July 10, 2003 10:36 AM                    What kind of tator? -------------------- Understanding the coyote is not as important as knowing where they are. I usually let the fur prime up before I leave 'em lay. Posts: 1006 | From: Arizona | Registered: Feb 2003  |  IP: Logged Rich 2,000th post PAKMAN Member # 112 posted July 10, 2003 10:58 AM                       Hee Hee -------------------- If you call the coyotes in close, you won't NEED a high dollar range finder. Posts: 2854 | From: Iowa | Registered: Feb 2003  |  IP: Logged Rich Higgins unknown comic posted July 10, 2003 11:09 AM              I know what you mean Jay. I have to contend with one oldtimer that refers to them, in the singular and in the plural, as "they're just a mangy old dawg." IP: Logged Jay Nistetter Legalize Weed, Free the Dixie Chicks Member # 140 posted July 10, 2003 11:22 AM                    Whew! I briefly thought Higgins was referring to me until I read the word "oldtimer". Woof:p That brings up another question. What qualifies a person as an "oldtimer" anyway? Is it age or years of calling this silly game? -------------------- Understanding the coyote is not as important as knowing where they are. I usually let the fur prime up before I leave 'em lay. Posts: 1006 | From: Arizona | Registered: Feb 2003  |  IP: Logged onecoyote Knows what it's all about Member # 129 posted July 10, 2003 01:47 PM                   An oldtimer has nothing to do with hunting. It has to do with going into Denny's and getting a senior Citizen meal. If you were born July 10th 1948 or before, you're an oldtimer lol. Hope I didn't say anything wrong? -------------------- Great minds discuss ideas.....Average minds discuss events.....Small minds discuss people.....Eleanor Roosevelt. Posts: 893 | From: Walker Lake Nevada. | Registered: Feb 2003  |  IP: Logged Leonard HMFIC Member # 2 posted July 10, 2003 02:06 PM                       Some good news for you, Danny. You can get into the show at a discount, now. Also, McDonalds gives you free coffee, or something like that...but don't spill it in your lap when you doze off! Carls Jr. gives you a free drink with purchase of a hamburger and some other sandwiches. Was it worth the wait? Good hunting. LB PS I don't think these young whippersnappers know what it's like to hunt hard? -------------------- EL BEE Knows It All and Done It All. Don't piss me off! Posts: 32361 | From: Upland, CA | Registered: Jan 2003  |  IP: Logged Jay Nistetter Legalize Weed, Free the Dixie Chicks Member # 140 posted July 10, 2003 02:41 PM                    Young whippersnapper is right Leonard. I've taken some strong, young guys out after staying up all night myself and they crap out and fall asleep. When I tell them to meet me at 4AM their eyes bug out. They are soooo tired come dark and I can't figure out why. It's not like I had them baling hay. And... When I tell them that they will repeat the very same thing the next day, I get some of the most pityful looks. Had one fellow ask if there were any 7-11's nearby. This after we travelled 40 miles on a rough dirt road in the middle of nowhere. edited for content [ July 10, 2003, 03:13 PM: Message edited by: Jay Nistetter ] -------------------- Understanding the coyote is not as important as knowing where they are. I usually let the fur prime up before I leave 'em lay. Posts: 1006 | From: Arizona | Registered: Feb 2003  |  IP: Logged Crow Woman Knows what it's all about Member # 157 posted July 10, 2003 02:50 PM                    lol... when people want to go hunting with me, I give them two times, 3a.m. or 2p.m. They always opt for the 2p.m. and to answer the question at hand, I have used it both ways. It just depends on the mood [ July 10, 2003, 02:51 PM: Message edited by: Crow Woman ] -------------------- Sheri L Baity Lord, Please give me peace, because if you give me strength, I might beat someone to death! Posts: 720 | From: Covington | Registered: Mar 2003  |  IP: Logged Cdog911 "There are some ideas so absurd only an intellectual could believe them."--George Orwell. Member # 7 posted July 10, 2003 06:22 PM                       Now I'm really confused. Coyote versus coyote(s)? Heretofore, when I spoke of more than one coyote, I would use the term "coyotes". Then again, when I use the term "coyote hunting", as in "Honey, can I skip our anniversary dinner so I can go coyote hunting?", I (as you can see) use the term "coyote" - in the singular. But, do I mean one coyote or more than one coyote? Like,... when I go coyote hunting, am I inferring that I'm only after one coyote, and is it one coyote in particular, or am I after all coyote(s) and I'm not picky? Would I be more accurate to say "Honey, I know the contractions are only two minutes apart, but the guys wanna go coyotes hunting." Sounds kinda silly, but a guy cannot go around being grammatically inaccurate. Makes you look ignorant and insensitive to the eloquently oriented guys at hunting camp. Damn! Now won't be able to sleep all night. -------------------- I am only one. But still, I am one. I cannot do everything, but still, I can do something; and, because I cannot do everything, I will not refuse to do something that I can do. Posts: 5440 | From: The gun-lovin', gun-friendly wild, wild west | Registered: Jan 2003  |  IP: Logged Rich Higgins unknown comic posted July 10, 2003 07:26 PM              Ya know, Lance. Sometimes I worry about you. IP: Logged Tim Behle Administrator MacNeal Sector Member # 209 posted July 10, 2003 09:57 PM                       Jay, Just name the time. I'll be up and ready. I may fall asleep on the ride, but riding in a car has always done that to me. When the music starts, don't worry, I'll be ready. Crow woman, I know the feeling. I was one of the most requested guides for a hunt last winter, I walked in one night and announced I wanted to try a new area in the morning, and said we would need to leave by 4 AM. Lost my "most requested guide" status real quick! -------------------- Personally, I carry a gun because I'm too young to die and too old to take an ass kickin'. Posts: 3160 | From: Five Miles East of Vic, AZ | Registered: Jun 2003  |  IP: Logged Leonard HMFIC Member # 2 posted July 11, 2003 03:49 PM                       Jay, that was too easy! You smoked him out, and named no names. I think the 7-11 comment is what did it. "Just name the time, Bucko" Listen closely: (figuratively speaking) A)"We killed three coyote, yesterday." B)"We called three coyotes, but two coyotes got away." Noncoyotes hunters will invariably argue that B is more correct; but predator hunters seldom talk that way....and who are we trying to impress? Not to mention; they don't even care! Good hunting. LB -------------------- EL BEE Knows It All and Done It All. Don't piss me off! Posts: 32361 | From: Upland, CA | Registered: Jan 2003  |  IP: Logged John/Alaska Knows what it's all about Member # 25 posted July 11, 2003 04:16 PM                      This plural thing with animals is confusing. Just look at the names of some of the critters that I hunt/trap. These names are both singular and plural: Lynx Fox Sheep Deer Caribou Goat Bear (though bears is used by some?) Marten Beaver Moose Musk Ox Elk Ptarmigan Quail But the funny thing is that wolf can be plural as wolves but also as wolf! What gives?? Coyote has my vote over coyotes even though duck or ducks seems to be interchangeable the same way. Our language is a strange one at times. Man I'd better get out in the bush as I'm starting to get serious here! Thanx Jay!! Posts: 62 | From: Tok Alaska | Registered: Jan 2003  |  IP: Logged Cdog911 "There are some ideas so absurd only an intellectual could believe them."--George Orwell. Member # 7 posted July 11, 2003 05:36 PM                       I think I'll just drop the "s" from now on because while I'm including it, I could be hunting. I guess that over my lifetime, all those "s"'s would add up to one or two whole stands that I would otherwise miss out on. -------------------- I am only one. But still, I am one. I cannot do everything, but still, I can do something; and, because I cannot do everything, I will not refuse to do something that I can do. Posts: 5440 | From: The gun-lovin', gun-friendly wild, wild west | Registered: Jan 2003  |  IP: Logged onecoyote Knows what it's all about Member # 129 posted July 11, 2003 08:44 PM                   Hey, wait a minute. I'm onecoyote, now I'm totally lost lol. Leonard, I'm happy I can say I made it. Was the wait worth it? Hell yeah it was, look at the fun we had getting here. Hard hunting?We never hunted hard. Drive 1400 miles, hunt all day and night, no sleep, no food. That was easy lol. -------------------- Great minds discuss ideas.....Average minds discuss events.....Small minds discuss people.....Eleanor Roosevelt. Posts: 893 | From: Walker Lake Nevada. | Registered: Feb 2003  |  IP: Logged Locohead World Famous Smoke Dancer Member # 15 posted July 25, 2003 08:59 PM                    ...sure its not, "meese"? -------------------- I love my critters and chick!!!! :) Posts: 2219 | From: CO | Registered: Jan 2003  |  IP: Logged brad h Knows what it's all about Member # 57 posted July 26, 2003 12:01 AM                    Dice singular is die. Maybe one moose could become "moo". Just so not to be confused with what the waitress writes when she can't spell "milk". Brad Posts: 346 | From: Glendive MT | Registered: Jan 2003  |  IP: Logged Rich Higgins unknown comic posted July 26, 2003 07:16 AM              Brad, dice singular is actually douse. Think about it. Moose plural, by the same logic, would be meese. IP: Logged Leonard HMFIC Member # 2 posted July 26, 2003 08:27 AM                       Rich, I don't follow you, at all. Stick to howlers, and back off on your meds. PS why ain't you out hunting, this morning? Good hunting. LB -------------------- EL BEE Knows It All and Done It All. Don't piss me off! Posts: 32361 | From: Upland, CA | Registered: Jan 2003  |  IP: Logged Rich Higgins unknown comic posted July 26, 2003 09:53 AM              Leonard, my camera is in the shop, probably for two weeks. Major withdrawals. Heading over to Jay's in a little while for videos, pizza, and beer with some other suffering addicts.Might help a little. singular plural mouse mice douse dice goose geese moose meese Seems logical to me. Want to try some of my meds?lol IP: Logged brad h Knows what it's all about Member # 57 posted July 26, 2003 11:46 AM                    Singular Plural Die Dice I thought douse was another word for drench. You know what, show'em my video, if they decide I need the medication, I'll split with Leonard. Brad Posts: 346 | From: Glendive MT | Registered: Jan 2003  |  IP: Logged Rich 2,000th post PAKMAN Member # 112 posted July 26, 2003 07:09 PM                       One coyote is a coyote, more than one is coyotes. Also when I look up the word "ugly" in dictionary it says "see Jay Nistetter". Hee hee -------------------- If you call the coyotes in close, you won't NEED a high dollar range finder. Posts: 2854 | From: Iowa | Registered: Feb 2003  |  IP: Logged Jay Nistetter Legalize Weed, Free the Dixie Chicks Member # 140 posted July 29, 2003 09:11 PM                    Rich. That's funny coming from a man with one glass eye and cataracts in the other. I was talking to a plastic surgeon friend and showed him a photo of your ears. He made some comment about satelite dishes and immediately cancelled his cable service.ROTFLMAO! How is everything anyway? I haven't heard from you for quite some time. [ July 29, 2003, 09:13 PM: Message edited by: Jay Nistetter ] -------------------- Understanding the coyote is not as important as knowing where they are. I usually let the fur prime up before I leave 'em lay. Posts: 1006 | From: Arizona | Registered: Feb 2003  |  IP: Logged

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