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Posted by Seldom Ever (Member # 185) on June 01, 2003, 05:24 AM:
......did you get my packages,and are you satisfied with the contents therein?
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On a totally different train of thought,tell me something about your 20,give me some specs on it,I'm thinking on having one custom made, just because I have the opportunity to do so ?
Is it a wildcat,is there a lot of case prep,etc ?
Talk to me Bubba
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Hey,and congrats on your daughter's upcoming marriage! She's tying the knot the day before my daughter's birthday,and 2 days before my stepson's birthday. Won't be long before you'll have some little tiny rugrats wearing out the carpet and making your day!!
Posted by Maineiac (Member # 21) on June 01, 2003, 01:39 PM:
Hey SE, how have you been? Things are busy with me up here. The 20T-N-T is a 223 necked down to 20 cal. Sly and I have had a few conservations about that little gun of his.
Posted by 20t-n-t (Member # 46) on June 02, 2003, 09:02 AM:
Seldomever,
The Tact20 is a .223 necked down to .204. The 20t-n-t is a 17rem necked up to .204. The Tact20 would be the cheapest way to go(brass is everyware) There is a little case prep at first but once its done its done. There are 11 bullets made now by 7 manufactures and I'm sure that there will be more made in the future. All the testing that I've done has been real impressive. Its hard to make one NOT shoot well.
The 20's are a flatline gun. My tact20 is sighted in 1" high at 100 yards and is 3/4" low at 300 yards. if you want more info you should talk to Todd Kindler at the woodchuck den in Baltic OH. the phone # is (330)897-0614 he can tell you more than I can, He invented it.
Hope this helps
slydog
Posted by Maineiac (Member # 21) on June 02, 2003, 01:00 PM:
See there I was half right it is a 20 cal.
Posted by pup (Member # 90) on June 02, 2003, 02:14 PM:
Yeah, I think that I am going the way of the tac20 myself.
Slydog, I am just about done, will get them in the mail before too long. The storms and the honey do's haven't left much time for other stuff.
later pup
Posted by Seldom Ever (Member # 185) on June 02, 2003, 03:26 PM:
Well,I just got back from the local loan company. I'm placing an order for a Cooper or Tromix in 20 tactical tonight,I can't decide which.The Cooper would be a single shot in M21 varminter configuration,and wouldn't be here until after January.The tromix is an AR15 style rifle, in multiple shot clip.I don't know if it's back ordered like the Coopers or not. Both are about the same price,with Tromix possibly being a bit higher.What would you guys do,which one would you purchase ?
Posted by Jack Roberts (Member # 13) on June 02, 2003, 07:46 PM:
"My tact20 is sighted in 1" high at 100 yards and is 3/4" low at 300 yards."
Could you give us: velocity, BC, weight, sight height above bore, and altitude for this?
Jack
Posted by 20t-n-t (Member # 46) on June 02, 2003, 08:52 PM:
SeldomEver,
Go with the single shot. It will make you a better shooter.
Jack,
The MV is 3980fps the BC is 205 The bullet is a 33grn V-MAX and the altitude here is approx.3800
Jack I also have X-Ball a program that can calk.for my loads. If you have Questions you can call me @ 208 841-5554
slydog
Posted by Seldom Ever (Member # 185) on June 03, 2003, 01:31 AM:
yep,I agree slydog,plus it's more fun,so I ordered the Cooper.
Posted by 20t-n-t (Member # 46) on June 03, 2003, 10:27 AM:
Dick,
I think you will be happy with the choice of guns and I know you will love the caliber. I would order some IMI brass from the woodchuck den, they will even form it for you if you want.
That brass is the key to building good ammo for the 20's. These 20's are tack drivers that will do the job, you can take that to the bank, my word on it.....
I'm excited for you buddy
Slydog
Posted by Seldom Ever (Member # 185) on June 03, 2003, 11:22 AM:
Thanks Dic,yeah,I'm really excited about it too,first off it's a Cooper, and second it's my first wildcat cartridge,kinda venturing into the unknown a little here:^).
In a way I'm glad it won't be ready until after January, it gives me something to look forward to,and it also tells me the rifles really are custom made.Lastly,it gives me time to buy brass,bullets,and dies before it gets here.
[ June 03, 2003, 01:09 PM: Message edited by: Seldom Ever ]
Posted by Jack Roberts (Member # 13) on June 03, 2003, 08:01 PM:
Slydog
I don't think that 20 shoots quite that flat. I ran those numbers through both Sierra3 and Infinity Five programs. Using your numbers and assuming a 1.5" sight height, gives a little different results. Both programs agree very closely. They show a 225 yard zero will have it 1" high at 100 yards, 1.2" high at 125-150, and 3.4" low at 300. Still pretty flat but not flat enough to only drop 3/4" at 300.
Jack
Posted by 20t-n-t (Member # 46) on June 04, 2003, 12:00 AM:
well Jack,
I will go through my notes and check, I may have my numbers mixed up but the results are the same as Todd Kindler's and Greg Tannel's give or take .5" at 300.
So I'll get back with you sir, ok
slydog
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on June 04, 2003, 06:15 PM:
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3.4" low at 300. Still pretty flat but not flat enough to only drop 3/4" at 300.
Jack
I could be wrong, but it looks like it might possibly be a simple err?
You know, crunching numbers is great, but I like to see results on paper.
Good hunting. LB
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