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Cdog911
"There are some ideas so absurd only an intellectual could believe them."--George Orwell.
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posted May 17, 2003 10:41 AM
Although there aren't that many guys here that use misting (yet) and most of them don't have the privilege of hunting real (WT) deer on a regular basis ![[Wink]](wink.gif) , I'm curious if anyone has ever applied the concepts of misting as outlined by Leonard in the past for laying a trailing scent for deer? I know, from personal experience, that diluting and atomizing coyote urine may sound like it wouldn't have all that strong a smell. But, like I said - personal experience - one good switch in a stingey breeze and it'll take your breath away. So many of these bow hunters after WT's during rut place a little squirt on a cottonball through which a golf tee has been slipped and expect that to hold a deer for the shot. I'd bet that a few good shots from the bottle once in a while would create a hundred yard deep scent cone that would bring every love struck, glazed-over eyed buck in the woods. Anyone try it before?
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Seldom Ever
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posted May 17, 2003 11:04 AM
Most of us here in WV spray some strong doe in heat scent on our boots before starting out,usually Tink's #69. You may not believe it,but several of my buddies have killed deer,from trophies to spikes, trailing them into the timber!
P.S. Some of these mountain deer here might surprise you size wise,especially in the bow hunting only counties.Do a search through google on Wyoming county WV deer,I'll bet you'll be surprised!!
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Leonard
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posted May 18, 2003 07:54 AM
Cdog, the concept is valid, for just about any game animal.
However, where it shows to advantage is with coyotes. You are virtually guaranteed that a coyote will cooperate and move downwind of your position...eventually.
A deer will be downwind by unhappy circumstance. There are unlimited directions from which he might appear, but; he will not circle to get your scent.
That's your application, if you are unfortunate enough that you have a nice buck show up downwind. You just have to appreciate that it is for covering your weakest position.
The way I see it, stuck in a tree stand all morning, at the mercy of changing wind currents, you could help yourself by misting.
Good hunting. LB
Good hunting. LB
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Lonny
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posted May 18, 2003 11:36 AM
Cdog, I have never tried the misting for WT's yet but it sure seems like it would be worth a try. Rutting bucks in my area seem to like traveling crosswind when on the prowl for does. A little mist every so often, and let the breeze carry it into a likely buck travel area would be a benefit I think. Or those stands that the wind has to be just right for them to work.
Any ideas Cdog on what your mixture might be?
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Cdog911
"There are some ideas so absurd only an intellectual could believe them."--George Orwell.
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posted May 18, 2003 01:03 PM
Lonnie,
I was thinking that your "mix" would depend on the strategy you're using on the stand. During the pre-rut, when fighting is at its peak, a good tarsal blend buck urine with rattling and modest grunts. A buck responding to rattles is looking for and expects to encounter another buck, so the tarsal pee won't spook him and will probably crank him up about eight notches. I've had bucks come to rattling as hard and fast as a charging coyote. During the actual rut, when does are in estrus and the bucks are just patrolling their territories servicing the harem, doe in heat like Tink's 69 would do the job I'd think. Again, I'm amazed at how much magnification the odor of the urine gets when atomized, despite somewhat radical dilution rates. Therefore, even though deer pee is expensive, a little will still stretch when used somewhat sparingly.
Kansas has some of the nicest WT hunting in the country and the hunters that are becoming more and more successful each year are undertaking more active methods of hunting, as opposed to passive. (Just mounted a 180+ twelve point today for a customer)Rattling, grunting, and the like are really being seen a lot. Although I plan to forego my archery season this year so I can hunt the youth hunt with my son, I have several friends with whom I hope to share this "technology" in hopes that they'll give it a try. I'll share the results when the time comes.
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Rich
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posted May 18, 2003 07:07 PM
Although most people actually don't get a chance to hunt the REAL whitetail deer, there are still a few of us old codgers who have been there and done that. Stick and string were my main tools of that game. My first ten point buck was taken with a 50 pound Bear "Kodiak" recurve, shooting cedar arrow and a single blade broadhead called a Pearson "Deadhead". My main method of covering my human odor from my own footsteps was to step in a few cow pies along the way. ![[Smile]](smile.gif) My best buck with stick and string was taken on Oct. 30th 1985. The bow was a Barnett "sidewinder" compound, which was set at 86 pounds draw weight. Arrow was Easton's "2419" which was heaviest arrow they made at the time. That buck scored 171 & 3/8" Pope and Young points. I have ambushed em from treestands and ambushed em from the ground. Arrowed deer every range from six feet to eighty yards. Sometimes I used doe in heat scent, sometimes not. A lot of my deer were called in with a grunt call that I made from deer antler. Others were called by rattling, and still others were called by combination of rattling and grunts. Do I think that Misting with doe in heat scent would help make a feller more successful? Yes sir, I sure do! Wow, was that a fish story or what? LOL All true fellows, every word of it.
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Jack Roberts
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posted May 18, 2003 07:54 PM
On my family's property in MD, which is close to D.C., and no firearms permitted, baiting deer with corn and molasses is very effective. The more successful bowhunters use a tree stand and bait the deer to within 20 feet. Killing 25 deer a year can easily be done by just hunting evenings and Saturdays. There is no hunting of game allowed on Sundays in MD.
This is an area where deer are regarded as dangerous and destructive vermin. Damage control permits are handed out for the asking, and you could legally take 100 deer a year if you worked at it. My family's property is 74 acres and 4 bowhunters have no problem taking 75 deer a year on it. All 4 hunters have full time jobs, so just hunt in spare time.
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Seldom Ever
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posted May 18, 2003 08:00 PM
They are getting like that in places here as well Jack. But here it is just plain slaughter,they shoot them and leave them lay.They aren't supposed to,but many do.So many crop damage permits are issued each year.When those run out,the GW's will fill out a form requesting more if needed.Many hunters are pushing for a law that forces the farmer who requests the damage permits to allow hunters on the property.It is a very controversial,heated subject in some places. Personally,I haven't formed an opinion as yet,I'm still working on it,listening to both sides.I just don't think any of the meat should be wasted,and the permits should be more regulated and the permit rules that are in place should be enforced better.
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Jack Roberts
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posted May 19, 2003 10:09 PM
It is a shame to waste the meat, I hate to see it. But in these urban areas the deer are a true varmint. Just in the D.C. suburbs, deer kill 10-30 people a year and cause over 125 million in insurance auto claims. And this is before the hugh crop losses are considered, or the expensive landscaping destroyed.
I have absolutely no sympathy for the people who put in $50,000 in landscaping, lobby to outlaw hunting, then complain because the deer eat their landscaping.
I do feel for the working people who risk car and life, every time they go to or from work every day. I did it for years, and it was very scary. You can not relax for a second. I was lucky and never had much serious damage. I would as soon drive through an Afganistan combat zone as through these deer infested urban areas.
Jack
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