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DAA
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posted April 27, 2014 03:59 PM
Couple birds near camp this morning.
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jimanaz
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posted April 27, 2014 04:11 PM
Never have had the pleasure, but they sure look tasty. Wonder if Marty Stouffer needs a still photographer?
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Leonard
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posted April 27, 2014 04:18 PM
Chucker remains one of the most difficult game birds on the planet, closely followed by sage hen. For very different reasons.
Good hunting. El Bee
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Fur_n_Dirt
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posted April 27, 2014 06:07 PM
Damn I miss chukar hunting in Idaho!
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Kokopelli
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posted April 28, 2014 03:21 AM
No doubt that Chukar are the bird from Hell when it comes to hunting them................but Sage Hens ???
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JP
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posted April 28, 2014 07:36 AM
Jim - When the hold the dog trials down here(Sonoita) they plant Chukar. After the trials we go out and usually come home with a fair amount of birds.
Excellent photos Dave, as always.
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Leonard
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posted April 28, 2014 09:28 AM
How many sage hens you kilt, kook? edit: oops, meant koko it's that fucking spellchecker again!
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UTcaller
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posted April 28, 2014 10:10 AM
There's a big difference in a planted chukar and the wild ones. Like Leonard said they are tough bastards, to hunt and kill. But one nice thing about them. When you find them, there's usually a good little bunch and you can gets some fast shooting at times.
Good Hunting Chad
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Leonard
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posted April 28, 2014 10:45 AM
The only thing slightly predictable is if you run them up a slope, they will flush and immediately glide downhill, like a half a mile.
Sage hens take flight like a condor, stay low, and if you can pick them out of the brush, you are most fortunate. In CA I believe the area around Mono lake is the only place with a two day season, unless it's changed?
Good hunting. El Bee
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Duckdog
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posted April 28, 2014 11:21 AM
Beautiful birds! Hardy little suckers too. I used to keep them for dog training myself. They always flew well for me and could withstand the rigors of training better than quail.
Everyone's been saying the Chukar numbers are way down (along with about every other game bird), on the bird hunting sites. I assume it's drought related.
Just from looking at the chukar hunter's pictures, it looks like a guy (and his dog), had better be in pretty good shape.
I've heard this is the chukar hunter motto...
"the first hunt is for sport...every hunt after that is for revenge"
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Leonard
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posted April 28, 2014 11:34 AM
The Hungarian Partridge has never been numerous, where I have been. Seems the numbers are down from low, it's almost a treat to encounter them, these days. And, if you were to ask me where to get a couple right now, I wouldn't have a clue? I think it would take a day of scouting, then a day of actual hunting.
Good hunting. El Bee
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Cdog911
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posted April 28, 2014 04:40 PM
Those are some beautiful birds, and great pics. We have none of the above, but our bobwhites are beginning to recover. We began encountering a covey here and there a few years back and I made my gunners all swear to not divulge their locations. Starting to see more and more all the time now, despite the drought. When their numbers started to plummet, there were countless theories about why. Most people settled on the turkeys eating them since we had a shitload of turkeys. Of course, we had a shitload of deer, too. No one noticed them, or the inverse correlation between deer numbers and quail numbers. Then, some state was shocked to discover whitetail does eating quail eggs out of the nest. I don't know if this is the cause, but the recent increases in numbers have paralleled a decline in deer numbers in the same areas. Whooda thunk.
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Duckdog
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posted April 28, 2014 06:59 PM
Well that's interesting...
I've never heard that deer/quail correlation. Do you have any references Lance? I'd like to read about it. There was a video a couple years ago that went viral of a young buck eating what appears to be a young bird that had fallen out of the nest.
So, I sure don't doubt it, I've just never heard it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQOQdBLHrLk&feature=youtube_gdata_player
I always heard the turkey/quail thing too.
And, while I don't doubt that turkeys would gobble up (pun intended) tiny newborn chicks, since they're bug sized anyway,
I wouldn't think they'd raid nests. In other words, I think the circumstance would be more of a rarity than common place.
And then Quail unlimited did a big study monitoring nests and didn't find one shred of evidence of turkeys raiding nests.
Mostly skunks if I recall...
I've seen the increase in quail numbers too, but...
It is strange that while every other game bird in Kansas is on the decline, during some of the worst environmental times in the state, the fragile little bobwhite quail numbers start improving.
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Moe
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posted April 28, 2014 08:06 PM
For a couple of years I lived in Omak, Washington. Not much to do there but hunt, fish and work. I hunted chukar, quail and Huns on the Coleville Indian Reservation. Chukars were easier to come by there than any other place I ever hunted them. During the season I hunted them every day I could and picked up lots of limits. Biggest coveys of quail I've ever seen, too. The locals had some prejudices about the indians and refused to buy a reservation hunting or fishing license so I had the place pretty much to myself. Omak Lake has a lot of Lahontan Cutthroat trout in it and I fly fished it all spring, summer and fall. If hunting, fishing and work were all there was life I never would've left there. If I wanted trout for dinner I would stop on my way home from work in Tonasket and catch a couple.
Sage grouse were plentiful in the grasslands around Molson, WA but the state put them on the threatened list so you couldn't hunt them. I was an engineer surveying land to run phone lines and sometimes I'd drive cross country through the grass. I had to be careful not to run over the birds because they'd just freeze when the truck got near. I really don't know if I ever ran any over.
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Kokopelli
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posted April 28, 2014 08:28 PM
Question; `How many sage hens you kilt, oh wise and noble Kokopelli ??`
Answer; Not too many. (1) They were seldom in season in the places where I was hunting deer.
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(2) I generally don't carry the needed Flu-Flu arrows for aerial shooting, but yeah, low & slow.
{Hmmmmm ?? My `Phrase Check seems to be over-doing it a wee bit.}
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Aaron Rhoades
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posted April 29, 2014 04:12 PM
Moe, what was the coyote population like up there in Omak?
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DAA
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posted April 29, 2014 04:32 PM
While I'm thinking about it. A winter chukar pic.
And a quail for good measure...
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Cdog911
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posted April 29, 2014 05:53 PM
Duckdawg,
Sorry, I don't. Every time I think of what I read, I wish that I had saved it.
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Duckdog
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posted April 29, 2014 05:56 PM
Dave,
Do you mind if I share those on a bird hunting site?
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DAA
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posted April 30, 2014 05:03 AM
Sure, no problem.
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