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2dogs
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posted May 24, 2005 07:40 PM
I've had for a couple of years now. A 50power x 50mm objective. Winchester Spotting scope. I have it mounted on a window mount w/pan handle. It has served me well. It's rugged, light weight, small & compact with good eye-relief & clarity.
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Leonard
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posted May 24, 2005 09:09 PM
Well, that's great. It's always nice to get a little insight into what others are doing. I remember that you have stated that you do quite a bit of spot and stalk.
On the other hand, I have so little use for a spotting scope when predator hunting, that in going on 40 years, I have never brought mine along...and never missed it. I always have my 9X35s available, but I don't have a need for a spotting scope, unless the occasional pronghorn hunt, it seldom goes anywhere with me except to the range.
Different strokes, right?
Good hunting. LB
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posted May 25, 2005 03:54 AM
Yep, LOL!
I've stalked in, hunched over, duck-walked & belly-crawled. In on quite a few brown & red rocks, feed sacks, clumps of dried grass. Also a couple of Anhydrous Ammonia tank lids(tanks were buried in a big snow drift, with the lid exposed. As well as a few cardboard boxes.
Shot & killed my first cardboard box 2-winters ago. Shot'em right in the rib-cage ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif) . Left him lay, he was manegy.
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Melvin
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posted May 25, 2005 05:41 AM
What kind of call you use when calling card board boxes?
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2dogs
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posted May 25, 2005 06:01 AM
LOL!, sometimes I make myself chuckle. I spotted that box, 3/4 mile away. It was a bit hazy out, not foggy. Obtained permission to kill a box(uh, er coyote)...LOL!
Walked a city block to my target(it was the shortest route & came in crosswind). Went to belly-crawl mode. Crested the ridge...Obtained my target, in my scope. OH YAH! Hammer-time.
The yote-box was twisted & torn, laying around 150yrds out. Took a deep breath, exhaled 1/2 way out, waited until my heart just beat, firm squeeze...BANG! Dead Box ![[Cool]](cool.gif) .
I thought, WHAT..THE! I started walking slowly toward it, with gun ready. Still looked like a big male coyote. Only when I was less than 100' away. Could I tell, it was a cardboard box. ![[Confused]](confused.gif)
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posted May 25, 2005 06:13 AM
Now that is scary!
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posted May 25, 2005 06:20 AM
LOL! boxes scare me to this day. Oh! & becareful out there. As they can often soak up a lot of lead...before dying.
Hmmmm, sure hope I never get "charged" by one, or a pack of 'em. Hand-to-box combat, can get very bloody ![[Eek!]](eek.gif) .
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Melvin
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posted May 25, 2005 08:52 AM
2dogs,
Did that learn you a lesson?"A very serious lesson"You seen in your mind what appeared to be a coyote,remember"appeared to be"but was a box!I'm telling you as a friend,"positivly identify your target!"We all make mistakes,but when we have a weapon in our hands, we should make sure we make no mistakes!..(think what the consequenses could be.)I seen 29 people take a hunter safety course and 27,shot a man beyond a turkey decoy 'dressed in camo'sitting to the side and just on the edge of the tree line,using a home made gun"thank goodness!"We should not only"positivly identify our target"but look beyond it...Please don't shoot any more boxes! "you just can't kill em" Unless??????
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2dogs
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posted May 25, 2005 09:58 AM
Yep, Melvin...
I always identify my target. You'd had to seen this box, though. Even when I walked right up to it. It still looked (shape-wise)just like a brownish/grey coyote. It was torn, crushed & had been wet before.
Looked as though an artist/sculpter made it. I'm always very careful with firearms & conscious of where my bullit is going. As you can't call it back.
Good reminder, regardless.
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posted May 25, 2005 10:10 AM
I always have my spotting scope in the truck. It definetly can save you a wasted walk(stalk). In the past I've made 1\2 mile stalks on a pumpkin, a basketball and numerous clumps of weeds.
BTW I did end up shooting the basketball!
Dennis
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Rich Higgins
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posted May 25, 2005 10:26 AM
How did you know it was a male cardboard box?
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varmit hunter
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posted May 25, 2005 10:43 AM
2dogs. I am sure glad you where not around when I was a kid. I probably would not have made it to sixty.
Playing in cardboard boxes was one of our favorite things. Manly it was because it was one of the few things we could afford.
From the time I was six until I left home. The ten commandments of gun safety were posted on my bedroom wall. Maybe I should have saved them for you. ALWAYS BE SURE OF YOU'RE TARGET. I am not real sure of what you're intended target is. You hunt yotes, while the rest of us hunt Coyotes. Maybe a yote is a card board box with a kid in it.
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Melvin
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posted May 25, 2005 10:54 AM
Rich, my guess is, he was downwind and got a nose for the females and that smell just didn't fit
Good man 2dogs"Quote---> I'm always very careful with firearms & conscious of where my bullit is going. As you can't call it back.
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2dogs
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posted May 25, 2005 11:38 AM
Rich,
I looked betwixt it's flaps, ie;(groinal area)LOL! DUH, I can tell a male from a feamle box .
Varmint hunter,
I'm thinking the yotes in my area...strongly resemble the coyotes in your area. Nope, I don't shoot children ![[Smile]](smile.gif) . You'll live until GOD, say's it's your time.
Melvin,
Thats the only thing(1-box-yote), that I can remember ever shooting or shooting at. That was not what I thought it was. When I field dressed him. No children found inside .
All of the other things, I've stalked in on that were not yotes. Not a shot fired. Just a chuckle or two.
Greenside,
Sometimes, we have to just laugh @ ourselves, eh ![[Wink]](wink.gif) .
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Leonard
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posted May 25, 2005 11:52 AM
The last time I shot a surprise, it was a huge moray eel. I had shot a calico, which tore out the belly when he flipped, but the shaft continued and stuck in the side of a vertical rock formation covered with moss and grass type stuff?
For some reason, I pulled the shaft out by using the line, rather than as I would an arrow, by grabbing the shaft itself. Good thing, too. I would have been bit, for sure! Because, out came a six foot eel, as big as they get, and mad as hell! He was stuck right in the middle, the worst possible place. And, there he was, almost in my lap.
He bit the parachute shroud into three pieces with a single bite; ten foot, one inch and another ten foot, right in front of my face and then proceeded to twist and wrap the whole rig around himself while falling to the bottom, reeling me in, in the process.
I had to leave him, get help, borrowed another Arbolette and shot him in the head. Still didn't kill him, and I had a real mess for a while, but survived....just barely.
I have never shot what I assumed to be, any animal that turned out to be a rock, or anything else.
However, observing a "form" from 3/4 mile distance, in the middle of a snowy field, what are the chances that a child is napping inside a weathered box? Once you "think" you see a "yote" the mind may not be willing to tell you the truth, as you close the distance, on your belly.
All I'm saying is, let's not be overly judgemental, okay?
I remember once, a coyote crossed the road, in front of me. I pulled over and started making some lip sounds, and suddenly noticed just the tips of a set of ears, down the hill, in the middle of some yellow grass. I judged where the head should be and touched it off and heard the plop as the bullet smashed his head. What if it was a little kid, in the middle of nowhere, wearing a furry coyote ear costume? Anything's possible.
Good hunting. LB
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posted May 25, 2005 02:53 PM
I'm heavily sedated, attending anger management . Going yote-killin Sat, with 1dog. No problems, here...Leonard .
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posted May 25, 2005 06:11 PM
Leonard, isn't that the same technique a Ca. caller used to shoot a Border Patrol agent in the head at night a few years ago?
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posted May 25, 2005 06:31 PM
No, Rich.
That story got me in some trouble with the guy that pulled the trigger. Not because of what I said, but because of what Danny said, since we both know the team that was involved. And, it wasn't BP, it was an inserted Army unit.
I will never condone what was done, but, ripping them by name on this Board probably won't happen again. Amazingly, the soldier didn't die. The brunt of the impact must have been the binoculars he was using?
That was a direct result of the antithesis of night hunting and the one thing that the powers that be always focus on: shooting at eyes.
You just can't do it. It scares me to death to even think about it. I never want to shoot a set of eyes, at night. I think that 99% of night hunters feel the same way? But, there is pressure to win, lack of sleep and errors in judgement to consider.
So, other than that, I don't know what you are talking about?
Good hunting. LB
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posted May 25, 2005 06:57 PM
So, other than that, I don't know what you are talking about?
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lol, Sargeant Shultz.
Still it all boils down to positive ID before stroking the trigger.
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posted May 25, 2005 10:04 PM
This is like a damned AA meeting:) But, I did learn my lesson about shooting at eyes when I was about 15. I cut my teeth on a million rounds of cheap 22 ammo, and shoot many many rabbits at night, from very long ranges, when going up to the alfalfa field to move water tubes. Had a side mounted spot light on driver door of Dads old truck, and would stop several times up the side of the field to shine for pink rabbit eyes, and dispatch the hay munchers.
Got up to top of the field one night, and wiped the far edge of the field for eyes, bingo, a grand slam, there was a set of coyote eyes at maybe 150 yards out. I had a cheap ass tip off 22 scope, Weaver I imagine, settled the cross hair above and between the ears of the facing coyote, and squeezed one off. Not a damned reaction at all, three more shots with the same result....eyes would turn away, then turn back to me to shine. Puzzled I just watched a minute.....then here comes the eyes right at me.....they came until the light verified it to be my canine buddy, Wendy. I was lucky, she was lucky, but it made me take pause to consider the possible outcome.
Ive seen lots of stuff in the field that sure looked like something with fur, but if necessary, I'll move close enough to make it move, if I cant positively identify it.
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Leonard
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posted May 25, 2005 10:32 PM
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Still it all boils down to positive ID before stroking the trigger.
Can't disagree with that statement.
Vic, that could have been a heartbreak. Good thing a 22 drops like a rock. (as I wait by the phone)
But. The thing I want to say about night shooting, and you can even see it in Vic's story. Shining a light and picking up a set of eyes will get you in trouble; UNLESS you are making a stand, and you called him in and observed his behavior, way before he was in a position to shoot. These guys that flip on a light and "bingo" there is a set of eyes!
BUT. You don't know really what you have until he reacts to the call. That was what got those guys in trouble; "quick, shoot before he moves!" That's the one thing that you must guard against, or you will make a mistake, eventually. There are a few amateurs out there on a Saturday night, banging away at eyes.
Good hunting. LB
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posted May 26, 2005 07:31 AM
Edited for over reaction, and out of date conduct.
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posted May 26, 2005 07:22 PM
Bausch & Lomb 60-power Discovery Spotter. Was a favroite scope used by one of my Dad's hunting Bud's. He had a window mount for it.
I used it a few times. It was good for glassing & spotting. Hunkered down yotes in a 1-mile section, in wintertime snow-fly.
This scope was bought in the mid 60's. I don't know if they've changed much(good or bad) since then.
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posted May 26, 2005 08:30 PM
2dogs,I know this might not be the time or place to ask this question,but i would like to know if you do any howling for coyotes, or prefer to use a distress call,or both?
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posted May 27, 2005 03:59 AM
Melvin,
I'm going on my 2nd year, on callin. I've only called in? or out however ya want to put it. I think 7 coyotes.
The 1st one called in was pretty cool. I was sitting on a very large hillside of CRP. Over looking a winding brushy/timbered creek with pasture land further out all around.
I went atleast 30x prior = zip.(I'm alittle pig-headed, Don't ya know...LOL!). I just about quit altogether. But then here that one came a flying in, & "hooked-me" for life. My neighbor-guy & myself talked to the yotes (howlin/yappin)a couple of times at dusk. Thats pretty cool.
I was useing a TALLY-HO & a Johnny Stewart Songdog on my 1st. I howled a couple of times on the JS-SD, then went to Jack squalls on the T-H. Yote came flying in from 1/2 mile away, seen him sail over a fence. He hung up @ the 200yrd line(I had my cross-hairs on his sternum). I tried to "coax-him" across the creek, on my side. He then dropped into the creek & never seen him again.
I like raspy rabbit squalls the most. I practiced for a couple of wks, prior to going on my first call. Drove the wife & dog, insane....whoops, sorry. By the way, they both haven't came back, yet...
I've been up close & heard Jack-Rabbits (death- scream)caught by our greyhounds, as well as our house cat, bringing home squalling cottin-tail's to show us.
I'm pretty decent now on my calls, I practice every day. When I'm in my truck going somewhere, to stay sharp, eh...
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