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Seldom Ever
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posted May 15, 2003 02:15 PM
ever made,and what type of optics were you using when you did it ?
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Richard Grantham
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posted May 15, 2003 03:20 PM
one shot across valley holding about a coyote above coyote, killed using 270, one shot flat ground paced 400 steps 243 killed coyote, one shot across canyon mule deer holding slightly above shoulder, heard bullet thump, buck walked around bunch of small bushes, some does stood there flicking ears and looking toward brush, walked all the way down one way to end of canyon and around to other side, buck was dead right behind brush, figured at least 400 yards.
This said I would not recommend shooting at that distance at deer, I was/am pretty good shot, laid over big boulder and only shot because I knew buck would run off before I ever got around point of web page canyon.
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Seldom Ever
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posted May 15, 2003 03:30 PM
Wow,that's some tall shooting! My longest shot here in these hills or anywhere else was 125 yards on a big ol' Tom turkey.We just don't get the opportunity for long shots in this state.I was using a 300Win Mag at the time,with a Weatherby 3x9x40 supreme scope.Slightly overgunned ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif) ,but the turkey didn't suffer,and all I had to do was pop out the breast and cut off his beard and fan.
You forgot to tell me what optics you were using at the time ? I'll bet some fantastic shots have been made with some really old scopes or even iron sights,that's what I'm asking about.
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posted May 15, 2003 06:01 PM
Shot a white tail doe near San Angelo,Tx.,held 20-25"over shoulder not sure of the yardage-400ish.Scope 3x9redfield tracker-25-06 with 120gr.bullet.
Crow in a cut cornfield 250-275yds.with 22-250 and 16xleupold.
I'll always remember my first"real"long shot a big fat ground hog that decided to soak up some sun on a warm winter day.Rem.700bdl-6mm Varmint Special with a Weaver T-10x-silhoutte scope.It was stolen,man that hurts doesn't it. ![[Frown]](frown.gif)
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posted May 15, 2003 06:35 PM
Yeah,it does.I've been fortunate,never had a gun stolen.Might be because I trade'em so fast,no one ever knows what I have,hahaha!!
Good shooting there,wish I had an opportunity to try a few shots like that! I'm wondering of all the members of this board,who has made the longest shot with the most worthless [ at least by todays standards] optics ?
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posted May 15, 2003 08:00 PM
My partner Tim routinely knocks down prairie dogs and rock chucks out to about 450 yds or so, using one of those funky old Redfield 3x9's shaped like a TV screen. It's on an M70 sporter in .243. I've even poked a few vermine with it on the far side of 400. He shot a mulie buck year before last, at a little over 500 yards using a ancient Weaver K4 on a pre '64 M70 '06.
Most of my deliberate over 500 yd. shots have been made using a Nightforce. The longest two though, were both with a Leupold variable, boosted to 40x, on a friend's rifle, within a few minutes of each other. That said, I MUCH prefer the Nightforce.
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Seldom Ever
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posted May 15, 2003 08:03 PM
Never heard of it,but like I said,that's why I'm asking all these questions,...guess the only ones considered dumb are the ones left unasked.What's the nightforce,who makes it,and how much does it generally cost ?
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posted May 15, 2003 09:59 PM
I only have three memorable, long range affairs with a rifle, all witnessed and paced shots. Big game long shot was antelope, taken with 257 Weatherby mag/leupold 6x20 scope at 550 yards. Predator/coyote was with my 17 rem, using a 3x9 Pentax, range was 460 long steps thru a corn stubble field. Small game was PD, using a rem M700 in 223, topped off with my old favorite Burris fixed 10X, range was 518 yards. Im ok with the long stuff, as long as it is confined to small game and predators, but really am not fond of long shots on big game. Sounds like convoluted ethics huh:)and it is; I suppose I have a higher degree of respect for the big game, and don't like to take shots much further than 300, at that range Im still SURE of what my rifle and I are capable of. Im just not on board with the new wave of "cross canyon" shooting we read about in the gun rags of late.
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posted May 16, 2003 05:42 AM
Seldom Ever, Nightforce is the brand name. Most well stocked suppliers carry them. They start at about a thousand dollars. Very good scopes.
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posted May 16, 2003 05:46 AM
whooooweeee,way out of my price range,DAA ,but thanks for the reply!
Nice shooting AZ,here I'd consider it great to get a long range shot at anything!
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posted May 16, 2003 08:12 AM
Seldom Ever,I put a link"scope stuff--tons"you read that you'll know the who's who in scopes.
You guys have got to see some of the shooting in "Varmint Safari"DAA and Tim's video.Tim does light up some vermin with that ole Win.model 70.The coyotes running wide open only to cross paths with a 3800fps projectile roll and cartwheel very nicely..On prarie dogs[rats]some do three "yes triple gainer"flips.I wish they'd have video'd roasting up and eating the rock chucks though!!
AZ-great shooting -fine 17-shot.I read over at LRHunting some of the 1500-2000yd.kills,it seems they really work hard at their craft.It's not my cup of tea either but to each his own.
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Richard Grantham
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posted May 16, 2003 10:00 AM
Seldom Ever, mule deer and first long coyote was with Weaver K4, still a good scope, from then on its been Redfield and Leupold, other long coyote was with 3x9 leupold. I now use 3.5x10 Leupold.
Math don't lie, if your gun and you are capable of 1" at 100 yds, its 5" at 500 yds- if everything is the same which of course its not wind has longer time to affect bullet flights, ect, so small critters are not hold on- shoot- got him, its becomes a little luck and guess.
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posted May 16, 2003 12:11 PM
I'll bet that weaver K4's got some age on it though,doesn't it ? As I've already demonstrated,I don't know a lot about scopes,other than how to shoot at short ranges with them.But if my memory serves me correctly,the Weaver K4 is an older model scope ?
I saw the link and browsed it some sporterweight,hadn't had much time to do a lot of it yet,been running everywhere getting ready for this stupid heart tv thing on Monday,and I just found out my new bushmaster varminter is in,I'm picking it up in 2 hours,yeeeehaaawww!
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posted May 16, 2003 08:41 PM
I killed a bull elk at 538 yards with a .300 Win Mag using a 180 Partition. Not that hitting an animal the size of a small horse with a kill zone as big as a a beach ball is any feat of great marksmanship. I let the fact that it was the last day of elk season and I had a unfilled tag in my pocket cloud my better judgement into making me think that I should take this shot.
By the time I made my way across the canyon to where the elk had been standing I felt physically sick. I new I'd hit the animal but had no idea where or how well. I did find the bull about thirty minutes later but by then I'd wished I could take back the shot a thousand times. I realized right then that for me personally I have no business shooting that far. I don't practice at ranges like that and I'd basically just gotten lucky. It's kinda like AZ-Hunter said, I like to know where my bullet will hit, not hope that it will hit.
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posted May 28, 2003 05:12 PM
I need more land and more practice. My record shot to date was a measely 200 yard shot on a crow with my 3-9x40 Simmons on my .223. Since moved up to a 6-18x40 Simmons that has shot a lot of pop cans at 200 or so. Jut getting back to critter season again.
New question, what is your closest shot? Mine was with said 6-18 simmons and .223. About 3 feet down at a ground hog that just happen to stick his head out as I walked by. Not too surprisingly he was a little blurry through the scope, but not the less, he had one last 'small' thought go through his head.
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posted May 28, 2003 05:39 PM
my closest shot would be a coyote's head sticking up out of a swag,at about 40 yards,and that is being generous, with a 308 BAR with BOSS, and 180 grain Nosler partitions.Believe it or not,the taxidermist still was able to do a full body mount,and the bullet entrance wound looks worse than the exit on the mount,even though the opposite was true when I shot her [it shattered her whole jaw below the eye on exit,left a gaping hole and lots of bone and teeth].
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posted June 02, 2003 04:32 AM
I decided to go to my hunting shack over night and see what was happening in the fields. It was half moon, I had the kerosene heater going. I was setting at my front window with it out.
I heard panting but couldn't see anything until I really focused my eyes. I picked up my 12x50 bushnell binoculars and saw her setting 10 feet from me over looking the fields below. I slowly slid my 243 over with 4x16x50 golden antler scope by Tasco, using winchester 100 grain power points and turned the scope all the way down. Quietly I took it off safety and shot at her front shoulder. The holes weren't any more different than a longer shot. She went maybe 3 feet and that was it.
That was the only time I have ever heard them breathing or panting. Chances are if I had let her set there any longer while she gathered her breath, she would have winded me.
I can tell you the most dumbest one story.
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Tim Behle
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posted June 18, 2003 07:17 AM
My longest shot on a Jack rabbit is 673 yards, longest for a coyote is 630. Both were measured with a laser before shooting, and the appropriate elevation was added to the scope.
Both shots were with a Win M70 in 7mm Rem Mag topped with a Leupold 6.5-20X50 Scope.
I like long shots, but I practice shooting out to 800 yards several times a week. I just had a new rifle built designed to extend my range out to 1,500 yards. It's topped by a Leupold 8.5-25X50 with the side wheel focus.
There is nothing wrong with shooting at long range, as long as you are practiced, and know where the bullet is going to hit. If you aren't sure where the bullet is going to hit, you've no business pulling the trigger, at any range.
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posted June 18, 2003 08:33 AM
I have had three of what I would call not great, but memorable shots. My first was with the .243 that grandaddy built me. We were south of Alpine, Tx. my buddy had the call of nature, he grabbed the tp and headed for a crevice, now when I have to go in the desert, I don't care who sees me, I just don't want any needles or stings , fangs near the posterior. Anyhow, my buddy steps down in this crevice on the belly of a Javelina, both javelina and buddy squall and come up out of the hole, my buddy no longer has the need to squat and I have the pistol out trying to shoot the javelina. I run back to the 4 wheeler, and get the .243 and make a running shot at 251 yds. My next one was not so dramatic, 159 yds on a coyote running WFO. and my longest was a coyote that lived on one of the ranches that I hunt, where the hands carry Mini -14 and take pot shots at them quite regular. He got up and loped off to what he thought was a safe distance, 442 yds. The 25-06 dropped him. Like I said not all that great, but memorable, and good friends being there made them all better.
later pup
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posted June 18, 2003 11:20 AM
My longest shot was on a coyote I had just shot at and missed at 30 yards.The coyote took off in full after burners and I barked at it twice and it finally stopped I held right at the top of his back squeezed off the round and he droppped in his tracks BANG! FLOP! .I ranged it at 175 yards.The shot was taken with my Remington 788 .243 topped with a Bushnell 3X9X40
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Leonard
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posted June 22, 2003 09:44 AM
Tell you what? Long shots are not to be considered lightly. You must have the right gear, and the correct circumstances. What follows is not directed at my friend Tim, who has a point, the proper rig, and probably a spotter?
A snap shot at a coyote beyond 500 yards is risky. If, for no other reason than mentioned by Tim: it's a long walk, and you better have him well marked, before you saunter forth. You would be advised to have him well marked before you tap it, in fact.
For those reasons, my personal limit is about 500 yards. Beyond that, they can move on you while the bullet is in flight, wind can play a role, **** can happen! And, you get runners, dude!
Human nature being what it is; everybody likes a challenge, now and then. I'm thinking that quirrels might be a more suitable target for most of us?
I've made a few, and missed a few, and learned that it matters.
If an animal is stationary, and has been that way for quite a spell.
If you know where he is, even if he drops out of sight.
If you are dialed in for the distance, and you can accurately determine that distance.
If you are using enough gun to do the job, and you have a rock solid rest....
be my guest. Otherwise, it ain't gonna happen.
Long shots are something to be proud of, and brag about. Keep the proper perspective. (end of sermon) ![[Smile]](smile.gif)
Good hunting. LB
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posted June 22, 2003 11:34 AM
....."IF"....the rabbit woulda stopped to **** , the dog woulda caught it"
Way to many "ifs" involved isn't there Leonard?
Shooting the long shot is always a touchy subject among shooters/hunters.To me, it's akin to the takem/leave em debate concerning deceased coyotes:)Everybody makes their own decisions concerning long shots. The pride involved in a sucessful long shot is revered among hunters.The nut to me, is how that was accomplished, thru honed skill or blind assed luck, both abound among our brothers in arms.
Leonard is a few notches above my particular skill level, on a "snap shot" at a coyote on stand. I most likely would think about passing on anything beyond 300 yards. I suppose some guys would rib me for my choice in calibers, implying I am not using enough gun, and that is true, I suppose if I was considering shooting the long stuff. I am more likely to be impressed seeing or witnessing a guy shoot great groups on paper, or at prairie dogs at the 500 and beyond mark, than I am to listen to a story of ones cross canyon shot on a buck that was snoozing under an oak tree.Way to much stuff can go on between here and there at 5,6 and 700 yards.....thats a long way out there for wind,mirage,loads,and the ever present human factor, a 1/4 minute rifle, can somehow become a 5 minute rifle at the shot. Thats to much room for error when shooting at big game animals and predators for me.
As always....everybody ain't me:) and conversely, I ain't everybody else. We all pick and choose our rifle and caliber, our choices in shots we take, and wether or not to leave the stinkin' ole coyote where he fell, or throw him in the back of the truck......ain't it cool!
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posted June 22, 2003 12:38 PM
Yeah, but. Man, I dumped a coyote that had run off so far that my son couldn't see him, before or after the shot. I'd have never picked him up if I had not been following him all the way. It was beautiful, we even drove out there....and I ain't saying how far. My odometer doesn't have tenths.
Good hunting. LB
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posted June 22, 2003 03:09 PM
Good Points Leonard.
I should have pointed out, when I go Long Range hunting, I do it with a rifle custom built for long range hunting. I shoot from a portable benchrest, and I use range finders and drop charts made from actual drops using the exact same load.
Although I haven't needed to use them yet, should something go wrong, and I make a bad hit. I also have access to dogs trained to track down coyotes.
For me, calling coyotes and shooting coyotes at LR are separate sports. I won't shoot a coyote past 300 yards with my calling rifle, and I won't shoot one inside of 300 with my LR rifle.
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posted June 22, 2003 10:22 PM
Az Hunter, Tim and Leonard, I agree with all three of you guys. One type of long shot that has not been talked about is the night time long shot. Leonard knows about this kind of shooting, it's a totally new game when shooting at night. All kinds of things come into play when shooting at night, plus the fact you have to find what your shooting at and thats not easy when everything looks the same. I'm not sure how far I have taken coyotes and bobcats at night, but they was a way out there, I'm sure past the 300 yard mark and believe me thats a long way at night. In the day I have taken a few long shots but had no way of telling how far. I did do a heart shot on an antelope at about 500 yards in Wyoming a few years ago. I planed on a long shot and I got one, my friends Frank and Richard was with me at the time and told me it was to far away, I said I don't think so. When I shot I saw the back end of the animal go down a few inches in my scope, Frank and Richerd said "you missed" again I said I don't think so. It ran about 20 yards and fell over dead. I was shooting a 264 Win mag with a 4x16 scope, don't remember what kind. Yep, them kind of shots are life long memories. Leonard, if you ever see Granville again, ask him about the coyote he took that I could not even see, it was that far away. As I recal, he told me he held about 8 feet over it and 15 feet in front of it. When we found it, the bullet went right through it's heart, damn lol. Good Hunting.
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