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Posted by 4949shooter (Member # 3530) on June 09, 2010, 01:39 AM:
 
http://www.57center.com/

Opinions on this?
 

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Posted by TOM64 (Member # 561) on June 09, 2010, 05:50 AM:
 
The 5.7 never caught my attention, read a few articles on it when it first came out and all the cops hated it because it would defeat body armor but it didn't interest me.

I've seen some guns similar to this one at gun shows, with the mag on top but I don't know anything about them.

I like standard machine guns, can't even get past the 5.56 caliber but if I ever do, it will be the 6WOA. Though I just bought another 223 upper, it's one I built a few years ago and the guy got a 6WOA, said he'd never need the 223 again, I just don't understand...
 

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Posted by knockemdown (Member # 3588) on June 09, 2010, 06:29 AM:
 
I handled an FN PS90 in 5.7x28 a while back. Kinda nifty bullpup, but not my cup o' tea.
My 1st & only bullpup will be a DTA SRS, some day...
And f.w.i.w., a .17Predator would most likely penetrate body armor as well. As would most any high velocity projo, Swift, .250 etc...
 

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Posted by Kelly Jackson (Member # 977) on June 09, 2010, 06:34 AM:
 
Get one and you will Tom.

The WOA will shoot flatter, has more surface area, I can’t tell any difference in recoil and knocks the shit out of coyotes.
What’s not to like. Order yourself a barrel, 6.8 SPC bolt/carrier and set yourself free from the 223.
 

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Posted by TOM64 (Member # 561) on June 09, 2010, 08:24 AM:
 
Fred you are correct, body armor won't stop many of the high velocity rounds but the cops don't know it and they threw a fit back when it first came out.

Kelly, I tried, I really did but Don called and I had to buy that 17" Kreiger back from him. I do have an extra 16" Colt light weight that I might swap out though, hmmmm.

More work with the 77's and we'll see. Right now I'm hunting a scope, after the 300 yard egg shoot, my whole concept in glass has changed. But for reference, the B&C reticle works real close to the 77 gr load I'm shooting.
 

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Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on June 09, 2010, 12:41 PM:
 
Is this true? Police officers don't know that damned near any rifle cartridge will penetrate the body armor they wear every day? That's pathetic!

I heard that there was a huge uproar when Gordon Liddy suggested, on some radio program that you should aim for the head, if you suspect the other person is wearing body armor. Isn't that obvious? Is it giving up all police officers to being killed by terrorists? Some of this obvious stuff is just hilarious!

So, what is this link showing us? Are we supposed to get a hard on looking at the sexy pictures? What is this 5.7? Is that the RWS cartridge popular in Europe?

Good hunting. LB

edit: (it's tied for second, at the moment)

[ June 09, 2010, 12:42 PM: Message edited by: Leonard ]
 

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Posted by Krustyklimber (Member # 72) on June 09, 2010, 02:52 PM:
 
Like Knockemdown, I handled an FN PS90 a year or so ago, and while I am fascinated by the idea of a bullpup, I found the thing completely hideous in my hands.

The round is a cool K-Hornet-y lookin' lil thing, and I had to ask what it went in... and thus was handed the PS90.

I love small cars, 125cc racebikes, and reasonably small calibers and cartridges, and I could see immediately that others would find a warm spot for the little round.
No surprise to me that it's become popular.

With this AR57, it's nice to see something a little bit more traditional (than the PS90) from which to launch the little round.

Krusty
 

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Posted by 4949shooter (Member # 3530) on June 09, 2010, 02:53 PM:
 

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So, what is this link showing us?

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Don't know really...I thought it was something different, and might make a nice plinking round. I figured it would be too light for any type of serious hunting. I haven't priced the ammo though.

Some of the LEOS around here carry it in the P90 form. A buddy of mine and I were shooting up in the woods 2 years ago and they responded with one.

I had to approach them before my buddy did. He has big arms and two full sleeves of tattoos. The local police might have thought he was a biker.

[ June 09, 2010, 02:54 PM: Message edited by: 4949shooter ]
 

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Posted by TOM64 (Member # 561) on June 09, 2010, 03:35 PM:
 
"I had to approach them before my buddy did. He has big arms and two full sleeves of tattoos. The local police might have thought he was a biker."

You guys got a shoot on sight order there too?

Remember, it's "us vs. them" don't let us down now with all we've put into this.

ElBee, I think the uproar was because it was a pistol that could be easily concealed and still defeat BA.
 

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Posted by 4949shooter (Member # 3530) on June 09, 2010, 06:41 PM:
 
My buddy is on the job too.

My biggest concern was that my son was in the truck, and I didn't want Angelo (my buddy) approaching these two local guys with a gun exposed on his ankle while he was wearing shorts and two sleeves of tattos. Especially after having been dispatched to a call involving shots fired, or a shooting complaint.

Sometimes discretion really is the better part of valor Tom. "Us vs. Them" or not.
 

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Posted by TOM64 (Member # 561) on June 09, 2010, 07:52 PM:
 

 

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Posted by Aznative (Member # 506) on June 14, 2010, 07:57 PM:
 
I've saw a PS90 at my local hang out(Randall's Firearms) a while back. Having owned a few HKs that gave me trouble, I've lost my love of foriegn guns; and it didn't interest me. Later I saw a guy looking at a tactical red dot type pistol sight at the Sportsmans Warehouse for his pistol that shot that round. He said it was the deadliest pistol round available, and he needed it for his line of work. Knowing that LEOs carry mandated calibers and guns, I immediately wrote him off as a mall ninja.

I guess it has an appeal to some because of its uniqueness for one reason or another, but I'll stick with the more common stuff. Today, if I was going to buy something rather off beat it would probably be a 338 lapua. At the current time the most unique cartridge I own is a 25/06 or 375 H&H. I don't know which one is the most unique, but for me that is as strange as it gets. I really don't see a need for the 5.7 unless one is limiting his hunting to fox. The 5.7 is to much gun for rabbits and too small for coyotes.
 

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Posted by Nikonut (Member # 188) on June 15, 2010, 02:13 PM:
 
Here's what I want...

This looks like the new WT "Mighty Adam" but has quite a different sting!

Metalstorm 1,000,000 rds per min

Wonder what caliber this thing shoots?

Nik nut

[ June 15, 2010, 02:16 PM: Message edited by: Nikonut ]
 

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Posted by 4949shooter (Member # 3530) on June 15, 2010, 03:41 PM:
 

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Wonder what caliber this thing shoots?

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I don't know the caliber but I don't think it matters.
 

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Posted by Ridge Runner (Member # 3477) on June 19, 2010, 05:47 AM:
 

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Is this true? Police officers don't know that damned near any rifle cartridge will penetrate the body armor they wear every day? That's pathetic!

I heard that there was a huge uproar when Gordon Liddy suggested, on some radio program that you should aim for the head, if you suspect the other person is wearing body armor. Isn't that obvious? Is it giving up all police officers to being killed by terrorists? Some of this obvious stuff is just hilarious!

So, what is this link showing us? Are we supposed to get a hard on looking at the sexy pictures? What is this 5.7? Is that the RWS cartridge popular in Europe?

Good hunting. LB

edit: (it's tied for second, at the moment)

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