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Posted by Cal Taylor (Member # 199) on April 16, 2004, 11:29 AM:
 
Well, It seems that the light 22's and sub 22's have a following, but and this is a big but...

Here's a quandry for you "little gun" guys. On or about May 10 I go back to work for the Natrona County predator board and the Woolgrowers association. Denning of course, and will work on and off for them until the middle of July. Now I've worked for these guys before, and am familiar with the country and the coyotes there. There are enough of them but they are hard persecuted and have been for years. To put it mildly the are very smart and wild as hell. Most of the time, with good dogs, the shots are easy and it is a slam dunk deal if you are where you should be when things start happening, but occasionally you get a really wild old bitch that won't work and maybe she's dining on lamb on a regular basis and she needs to die, and you have to take her at whatever range you can get her, and god forbid that you miss. Anyway that is the situation that I am in, and if you could imagine yourself there, what caliber are you going to shoot now??????????????????????????? Cast your Votes.
 
Posted by MJM (Member # 270) on April 16, 2004, 11:59 AM:
 
I stick to what I wrote in the other thread"

Many times in the past I've written, "If a critter absolutely has to die right there and right now, in the wind, in the rain, in any condition, I grab my 243Win. and have at it." Most ADC type hunters don't give a damn about saving hides so big holes don't matter. If I were in that business I'd pile as much powder into a case as I could for an accurate safe load and press a 70gr Nosler BT on top of it. With this combination holes big enough to stick your boot in is a no problem situation. I can't say the same about the 223, sure I've gotten some big holes but it is not as common.
 
Posted by Rich Higgins (Member # 3) on April 16, 2004, 12:04 PM:
 
Cal, Q's Dad, Gary, has a 50 BMG. Should we ask him to join us and bring that little toy? I'm pretty sure it's lethal on coyotes at extended ranges. [Smile]
 
Posted by UTcaller (Member # 8) on April 16, 2004, 12:30 PM:
 
If I were doing strictly ADC work,and didn't care about hides and my only concern was to kill problem coyotes either with or without dogs. I would go with the 6mm Remington.I would shoot High B.C bullets(Nosler BT)probably 70 grain.I would shoot them around 3500fps so they would be very flat shooting.That so you can take some of them SMART ones that won't come to close.GOOD HUNTING C.O
 
Posted by Cal Taylor (Member # 199) on April 16, 2004, 01:13 PM:
 
You guys are right on, and were before. I am waiting on the tried and true .223 fans. Ut and MJM are in the ball park of what I am a fan of, and most of you already know. I shoot a 26" barreled .243 with either 68 or 70 grn Bergers or 70 grn Sierra HPBT match bullets. I get 3650 fps out of any of the above combos. But sorry Rich, the 50 is too big for me. My criteria and reasoning for staying away from much more than the various 6's is that anything bigger generates too much recoil to see the bullet hit. I want to see that coyote crumple, or it least know where he's hit, or (gasp) if by chance I missed.
 
Posted by Tim Behle (Member # 209) on April 16, 2004, 04:50 PM:
 
Cal,

I'm a tried and true 17 Remington fan, but for the work you described, I'd carry my 7 MM Remington Mag with 162 Grain Amax bullets.
 
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on April 16, 2004, 04:59 PM:
 
I have a 243, and my bullet of choice happens to be the 70 grain Nosler Ballistic Tip, which ...(and I'm looking at the tape, here) is doing between 3550 and 3600fps. It's one of those loads that makes a big mess.

Excuse me, UPS just rang the doorbell. I think I got; yup, some real cool diaphragm calls from a good friend! I need to try out a few of these.

Where was I? Oh yeah. Anyway, that 243 is pretty tame compared to what I would use in the described scenario. Situation calls for a 25'06 Ackley. What a confidence builder!

Remember that reaction that Cal talked about, inside one hundred yards? This thing is more like 400. (just a guess, I can't prove it)

Good hunting. LB
 
Posted by Saddlemaker (Member # 321) on April 16, 2004, 05:59 PM:
 
Cal,
A friends brother has a sheep ranch south of Buffalo near the Crazy Women. On the occasions I've had to hunt with him for the past 30 years he always carried a 22-250 with a 6 power scope and a 22 mag 9422 winchester. As he owns a sizeable hunk of land plus his lease the 22-250 must be a practical caliber also.
Good luck on your hunting job, Walt
 
Posted by Cal Taylor (Member # 199) on April 16, 2004, 07:29 PM:
 
Walt,
I know that country well. I grew up near Kaycee. I know both the county trappers there well also. And yes, the 22-250 is a viable option. But overall, out here, I would still guess the swift is king. And I have one of those too, I just like the little heavier bullet. Once you get to the big 22's and various 6mm's it just a personal preference and what you are used to.
 
Posted by jerry (Member # 195) on April 24, 2004, 08:29 AM:
 
When im faced with a area such as you described i load up my 25-06 with 85 gr. BT and anchor them .
 




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