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Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on February 12, 2004, 09:26 AM:
 
Anybody have experience with these actions? Compare to others? What's the best prices? Thanks.

Good hunting. LB

[ February 12, 2004, 09:29 AM: Message edited by: Leonard ]
 
Posted by Jack Roberts (Member # 13) on February 12, 2004, 04:08 PM:
 
They are becoming popular with Palma and 1000 yard prone shooters. Sinclair sells complete rifles with Krieger barrels for $2695 and the action for $950, $1050 with a bedding block. An adjustable stock is $850.

http://www.sinclairintl.com

Jack
 
Posted by Purple220 (Member # 173) on February 19, 2004, 07:45 PM:
 
Going thing for most BR shooters so they must be good. Made in Texas too!!!
 
Posted by Jack Roberts (Member # 13) on February 19, 2004, 10:26 PM:
 
Purple,

I have not heard of any benchrest shooters using them. They are used in the International ISU stuff, World Cup, Palma, National Championship, Olympics, etc. They are made in Australia. They are competing with the Swing actions and so far it is about 50-50. It looks like they are equal to the swing but maybe not better.

Jack
 
Posted by DAA (Member # 11) on February 20, 2004, 06:00 AM:
 
Stiller makes his actions in Texas, quite a few BR guys use them. Maybe that's the one you were thinking of? They are a real nice action, at a decent price, too.

- DAA
 
Posted by Jack Roberts (Member # 13) on February 28, 2004, 06:06 PM:
 
There is an article on actions in this months "Shooting Sports USA." They discuss and have pictures of: Millennium, Hall, Nesika, and Stolle. Those are the most popular actions for long range shooting. One interesting thing on the Millennium is a roller bearing cocking cam. With the 4 lug action the bolt throw is so short, cocking takes a lot of force and using a roller bearing on the cam lessens this. A floating firing pin with a separate striker powered by Belleville washers is used to achieve lock time of 1.0 millisecond. The guy that developed the Millennium, Robert Chombart, was also involved in the Paramount and RPA actions.

The only thing that all four actions have in common is the use of a sliding plate type extractor, like the push feed M70. I have always thought that is the best extractor design.

Jack
 
Posted by Purple220 (Member # 173) on February 29, 2004, 06:58 PM:
 
Thanks DAA, I forgot the name of the ones built in Tx. that most are going to now days.
 
Posted by Tim Behle (Member # 209) on March 01, 2004, 06:57 AM:
 
Leonard,

What are you planning on building?
 
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on March 01, 2004, 06:00 PM:
 
I think I might just get a new barrel installed, Tim. Even so, I can't decide on the chambering. Any ideas? LB
 
Posted by Tim Behle (Member # 209) on March 01, 2004, 07:39 PM:
 
I get distracted from time to time. But for the last couple of years I keep coming back to the idea of necking the .338 Lapua down to 7mm. Cutting the throat for a 162 Amax in a 30-32" 9 twist Lilja barrel. Put it in a McMillan A5 stock and top it with a Leupold 8.5-25X50 LR Scope.

It might not be fur friendly inside of 400 yards, but it should be coyote deadly out to about 1,600-1,800 yards. [Big Grin]

What were you thinking about?
 
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on March 02, 2004, 04:32 PM:
 
I'm with you on the length, 30" seems about right, but I've got it narrowed down to 243 Ackley or 6mm Ackley or 6/284. I can't decide on the twist, either.

And, I don't need 1500 yard accuracy, I'd settle for 800/1000 yd. bang/flop.

Good hunting. LB
 
Posted by Tim Behle (Member # 209) on March 02, 2004, 06:45 PM:
 
The 6/284 and 6.5/284 have been doing great in the LR Benchrest matches. Either once should give you what you need. A friend of mine in Tucson has the 6.5/284, he's got the small group at a few matches in the last few months.

I'm going to keep plugging with my 300 for now. I think I've found the bullet and load, now I just have to tighten up the nut behind the bolt. [Wink]
 




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