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Topic: F-P callers.
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TA17Rem
Hello, I'm the legendary Tim Anderson, Southern Minneesota Know it all
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posted February 13, 2011 09:14 PM
Ok I sat through 2 fox-pro shows and one other where a F-P E-caller was used. I was seeing a pattern in all three shows where the majority of coyotes are comeing in or stopping short and then bugging out just as fast as they came in.. Is this normal or what to exspect when useing a F-P caller????? ![[Eek!]](eek.gif)
[ February 13, 2011, 09:15 PM: Message edited by: TA17Rem ]
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JD
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posted February 13, 2011 11:28 PM
There is no way you could be this fucking stupid, is there? WOW!
Of course if we applied that same logic to you we could presume that every post you ever made would be retarded........oh wait.....well hell Tim, I guess your logic makes sense, FP must suck then huh.
Idiot!!!
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Kokopelli
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posted February 14, 2011 02:50 AM
Tim, Tim, Tim, what ARE we going to do with you?? ![[Confused]](confused.gif)
When I use my F/P caller, I exspect the coyotes to run right up the barrel of my shotgun, and they often do. ![[Smile]](smile.gif) Since you didn't mention what programs that you saw, I don't know who the hunters were, but I suspect that the problems that you describe go far beyond the brand of caller used.
There are at least two possible reasons for the behavior that you saw, as outlined below.
(1) Bad music in the truck. Coyotes have incredible hearing in ranges that we've only just begun to suspect. Playing 'Rap' or 'Heavy Metal' in the truck's stereo system sets up a bad vibration that can alert canines for miles and impact success. A more mellow type of music should be played between stands, such as The Beach Boys who give off Good Vibrations. ![[Cool]](cool.gif)
(2) The producers are testing you, Tim, to see if you pick up on the finer nuances. They are looking for the next super-star of the video coyote callers and they have their eye on you. I'd stay close by the phone if'n I was you. ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif)
Remember, we're here to help.
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posted February 14, 2011 05:17 AM
That does it!!!
I'm calling Bill Martz today and ordering a new ecaller. Does WT still make the "Backpack" model. I just loved the color and size of those units.
Look out Illinois coyotes... you're going to die!
Nikonut ![[Roll Eyes]](rolleyes.gif)
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Rich
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posted February 14, 2011 06:15 AM
Old TA17 is a real cracker jack now ain't he?
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posted February 14, 2011 07:23 AM
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Is this normal or what to exspect when useing a F-P caller?????
The silly question does little to mask the seething jealousy that prompted it...
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TundraWookie
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posted February 14, 2011 07:43 AM
Niko, I have a couple backpack models that I'd sell you.
Tim,
They were going to try a WT, but the thing snapped the wire on the antenna before episode 1 was filmed.
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Leonard
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posted February 14, 2011 08:56 AM
The answer, which everyone forgot to mention, is that the behavior is very normal, depending on who is conducting the stand, and it wouldn't matter if it was a Foxpro or a WT. The reason why they all failed to answer the question is because they were so quick to jump on the poor, innocent questioner.
This does not speak well, for our famous Huntmaster hospitality. We are unfailingly polite, regardless of how stupid the question may be.
But, go ahead, since you guys started it. You have a "Hall Pass" to hammer Tim the rest of the day.
Enjoy, El Bee
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JD
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posted February 14, 2011 10:07 AM
Thats funny LB, the reason we failed to answer "the" question is because the poor innocent questioner didnt really ask a question he merely applied his brand of stupidity to a situation in another attempt to make his butt buddy BM look good.
Kokopelli....You know he`s going to copy that statement about looking for the next superstar, change it around a little and post it on another board somewhere.
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TundraWookie
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posted February 14, 2011 10:39 AM
Let's just break it down into even smaller pieces so TA doesn't have a stroke worrying about what FP to buy next to replace that WT.
Tim said:
"Ok I sat through 2 fox-pro shows and one other where a F-P E-caller was used."
Comment: Trying to isolate one specific variable in the situation is simply pointless. Maybe it was the camo clothing they were wearing? Maybe it was the glare off their NightForce scopes? Maybe it was the 5 man filming crew? Maybe it was the broken WT sitting beside them? Simply calling out one variable has zero merit.
Tim said:
"I was seeing a pattern in all three shows where the majority of coyotes are comeing in or stopping short and then bugging out just as fast as they came in.."
Comment: They're coming in aren't they? Stopping short of what (a decent filming shot for the kill)? Tim, would you rather they shoot them at 800 yards out and then leave the filming crew with a dot in the distance that stops moving? That's not exactly what the viewers are looking for in a predator hunting show. Good shooting is nice, but prime time footage is what they're after here.
Tim Said:
"Is this normal or what to exspect when useing a F-P caller?????"
Comment: Define "normal" in terms of predator hunting please? Is there such a thing as a "normal" response? Get out there with a crew of people and do it yourself, then let us know what your new definition of "normal" is. Coyote drives with the hot-rods and bucket-cam won't cut it either. Get some real, up close stuff for us. No fox 500 yards out sleeping in the snow either. 50 yards or less.
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Leonard
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posted February 14, 2011 11:13 AM
Tim, would you like to be rehired as moderator of the Consolidated Pinhead Forum?
I can prequalify members that demonstrate a lack of comprehension, and restrict normal people to "read only".
Excellent opportunity to pose this type of questions and gather responses of merit. Might even be good wholesome entertainment for us regular folks?
Let me know, Chum.
edit: Hey everybody! just for fun, see if you can get in there. Or, request the password.
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jimanaz
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posted February 14, 2011 11:18 AM
You forgot the "p" in that next to last sentence. ![[Wink]](wink.gif)
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Leonard
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posted February 14, 2011 11:19 AM
You just qualified!
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UTcaller
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posted February 14, 2011 11:27 AM
Yep once again Tim you have proven you can't fix stupid.
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Leonard
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posted February 14, 2011 11:31 AM
Chad, did you get an invitation from Scott, yet? We want you to show us all your honey holes in Nevada.
Good hunting. LB
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UTcaller
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posted February 14, 2011 01:45 PM
Yeah,I did. Unfortunately That weekend is bad for me.It's my oldest boys birthday on the 19th and I have a bunch of family/friends coming in to have a big get together.Thanks for the Invite though.Man I wish I could go. Anytime I get a chance to go to Nevada calling coyotes is great but to be able to hunt with You, DAA and Scott out there would be even better.What area you guys headed too?
We were there a couple weeks ago and did pretty good for this time a year. 10 coyotes in 2 1/2 days of calling.It was a new area so we were doing alot of driving/scouting too.Should be a good spot next fall though.
As far as honeyholes go I think the whole state is one.lol
Like Blaine always says "about anywhere you go in Nevada and you're into Coyotes".lol
Save a few for me though will ya.
Good Hunting Chad
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TA17Rem
Hello, I'm the legendary Tim Anderson, Southern Minneesota Know it all
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posted February 14, 2011 02:54 PM
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Comment: They're coming in aren't they? Stopping short of what (a decent filming shot for the kill)? Tim, would you rather they shoot them at 800 yards out and then leave the filming crew with a dot in the distance that stops moving? That's not exactly what the viewers are looking for in a predator hunting show. Good shooting is nice, but prime time footage is what they're after here.
Then why bother to even carry a gun...LOL
Reason I brought it up was do to some posts awhile ago about everyone with a F-P wiseing up the coyotes. You can see it first hand by watching the last two F-P shows.. I guess maybe I got a little spoiled from watching some of Les's shows..
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JD
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posted February 14, 2011 04:29 PM
Tim, sometimes I just sit here and marvel at your ability to express to the world your ignorance on so many different levels, it truly amazes me, sometimes I think your the village idiot, other times I wonder if you just stumbled in drunk from the gay bar, at one point I even considered that you might have a touch of down syndrome the thought of which terrified me that maybe I`ve been M-Fing a special needs person all these years but thats not it either. I think I know what it is....TA is just a fictitious character created by some 12 year old computer nerds who sign up under that screen name and troll all the hunting related sites for shits and giggles....it must be, nobody could possibly be this stupid or drunk........we`ve been duped by a bunch of 12 year olds!!! I guess the jokes on us guys.
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posted February 14, 2011 06:55 PM
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That does it!!!
I'm calling Bill Martz today and ordering a new ecaller. Does WT still make the "Backpack" model. I just loved the color and size of those units.
Look out Illinois coyotes... you're going to die!
Nikonut [Roll Eyes]
You'd better make sure that bm sends you one of the new "programmable" wt backpack ecallers that were talked up last year. That will really put the odds in your favor.
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Kokopelli
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posted February 14, 2011 07:01 PM
Actually, Tim really does exist. I met him about three camp-outs ago & he seemed like a decent guy. Unfortunately, once he figures something out in his area that works, he tends to think that it will work everywhere...............and as most of us know, it ain't always so.
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TA17Rem
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posted February 14, 2011 07:26 PM
Not sure if you are serious Koko but thanks anyway..
Sure everyone has a bad stand or two no big deal, what I dislike is the mis-handleing of coyotes by the so called TV experts and like I mentioned it happens on more than a few stands or coyote calling shows.. Since all of them where useing a Fox-pro this left me with the question of is the F-P and sounds actually good enough to put a high percentage of coyotes in the back of the truck.. Either the callers were'nt useing the sounds that brought the coyotes in part ways to bring them in for a closer shot or perhaps used the wrong sounds and turned the coyotes off, or maybe F-P dose'nt have the vocabulary to work a coyote.. Hmmm
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posted February 14, 2011 07:50 PM
Well Tim, if thats really who you are, didnt you post up a couple video clips of you trying to call a couple coyotes, but they wouldnt come in, would they Tim, what can we conclude from those video clips of you NOT getting those animals closer?
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posted February 14, 2011 08:27 PM
or maybe F-P dose'nt have the vocabulary to work a coyote.. Hmmm
I dunno, seems to work for us just fine.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9YMIU6DSGCU
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TundraWookie
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posted February 14, 2011 09:24 PM
Tim,
Ask Kelly Jackson how the FoxPro's working out for him, I'm sure he'll let you know how he handles coyotes with the thing. If you already saw that episode, he killed 153 I believe last season, probably over the CS-24 by the looks of the pictures. The sounds and the quality of the CS-24 will flat out blow the WT out of the water. How do I know????? I have them all Timmy....All of them and all the sounds.
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TA17Rem
Hello, I'm the legendary Tim Anderson, Southern Minneesota Know it all
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posted February 14, 2011 09:50 PM
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If you already saw that episode, he killed 153 I believe last season, probably over the CS-24 by the looks of the pictures. The sounds and the quality of the CS-24 will flat out blow the WT out of the water. How do I know????? I have them all Timmy....All of them and all the sounds
If this is so why do you need to have WT sounds on youre F-P???
Yep i saw that, Kelly can really cover some ground.. So since you have a CS-24 I'm sure you have just as many kills for last year as Kelly. Right??? Or was it just to cold to be out calling last year..
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